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Am I the first to say that getting kicked and banned for simply swearing in a server is downright stupid, or what? Server owners believe it's right to keep swearing to the minimum as there may be young players taking a part in the game, but I believe things have gone too far. I don't think it matters who the servers belong to because there's no harm in using logic. You now get kicked for simply saying "wtf" - it doesn't matter what the context is, you will still receive a stupid warning, or a kick, for simply saying "wtf." It's understandable to remove racist players from the server, or those who are being too offensive to the point it's annoying and displeasing to everyone, but even those who say "fcuk!" after they die are punished for swearing (in a non-offensive manner). If server owners are laying down such strict rules on swearing because of younger children, they need a reality check. There is nothing worse than killing someone in our society.. that means that swearing isn't nearly as bad as killing. We're playing a game rated T for Teen, so it isn't our job to worry about younger children playing the game. There is a rating people are supposed to respect. One joins a server and expects violence, killing, destroying, etc. What's wrong with a little swearing? Swearing is by no means anywhere as bad as all the other things we do in this video game, so why the strict rules? If you expect all sorts of violence when playing this game, people swearing should look like a joke... Yet it's taken more seriously than retards PT killing on sniper servers, retards exploiting glitches or us 1337 clanwars.cc players team hampering. Can't this community stop treating its players like little kids? Can those stupid morons who run the servers use some common sense and let people flame eachother? This game is about having fun, is it not? With all the stupid rules layed down, I find it's hard to have fun. You can't even insult someone without some gayass bot bitchin' at you. Anyways, I think that my solution to this problem = MODERATORS. There a billion retards looking for attention, looking for authority in this game. Let PEOPLE moderate the servers, not a bot that kicks you after you say the F word three times. I mean, this would improve server activity, people would have more fun, you wouldn't have to worry about getting kicked for a dumbass reason.. Like honestly, with more than a few mods in every server there wouldn't be a problem. Those mods would kick those who are really causing trouble, and let those who say "wtf" every time they die play peacefully. If you can virtually kill someone on this game, I don't think some virtual insults are gonna do much harm. Change your stupid rules, Thanks!
Yah, I hate it when I almost kill a building I type "Dammit so fuckin close!" and I get kicked... Fucking stupid... DE DE DEE!! Lex Luthor says "WROONNGG!!!!!"
Just because I say "nigga/mean mean black person"(word filter) it does not mean that I'm a person that feels anger or a form of dislike towards people of African origins. But I'll refrain from employing the term if it requested by either a person or an existing rule and apologise afterwards as a proof of respect, although I may ask for to know why the person is offended by it first. As for everything else, if the group or individual responsible for the existance of the server itself deny you the use of vulgarity, racial slurs and such, it's their right, you are free to have your personal opinion about these rules, but sharing it is hardly going to change anything. (The ESRB notices you about online gameplay and its "dangers", therefore server owners shouldn't (EDIT, forgot to include shouldn't) technically be having to do this (but they still have the right to, and online play shouldn't be meaning constant vulgarity, either), and people below the age of 13 shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place)
Why should it not change anything? Should we not, players and server owners alike, be doing what is in the community's best interests? Why should we not help steer those server owners to the right direction?
Since when was vulgarity the right direction? (Don't mention "freedom of speech", it's meaningless on the Internet)
Dude I'm not saying that swearing is a good thing, I'm just saying that swearing and getting kicked for it is a bad thing. And it is. There's a difference in being offensive, and just simply swearing. This difference should be taken into consideration before making those gayass bots that kick you for no real reason
It's your duty to read the rules of a server before connecting to it. If you're in disagreement with those rules, don't connect.
Glad to know you're one of the morons who support this stupidity. Anyone else?
lol, resorting to insults won't bring your case anywhere. It's not stupidity if they have every right to do it. When you join a server, you're agreeing to a form of contract, like when you install software on your computer, breaking that contract will result in one or multiple consequences.
Comrade wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 01:22 It's your duty to read the rules of a server before connecting to it. If you're in disagreement with those rules, don't connect.
Anyone else see Aprime aka Assprime aka Comrade as this retarded kid that's trying to say everything he thinks will make him "popular" on the Internet, but fails miserably at it? He's like a Grade A Internet Poser. You're so fucking annoying! Go the fuck away! There's a damn good reason why you were G\Zlined on n00bstories IRC!!
What? Sorry, I was busy feeding my cats.
HAHAHAHA I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE JOKING, OTHERWISE YOU'D LOOK REALLY STUPID. WHAT'S NEXT, ARE YOU GOING TO USE ANOTHER PATHETIC INSULT? "HAHA I SAID YOU WEAR A DRESS AND YOU WANT TO BE A WOMAN HAHAHA I WIN!!" DON'T TRY TO BE FUNNY (YOU'RE NOT) DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE ACTUALLY WANTS YOU AROUND (THEY DON'T) DON'T BRING OUT RETARDED POSTS THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY WROTE THINKING YOU WERE CLEVER (YOU WISH) FOR ONCE IN YOUR SAD LITTLE LIFE, GET A BARBECLUE AND GO AWAY YOU'D BE DOING US ALL A FAVOR. OMGZ HE WHO LAUGHS LAST ROFLES TEH LOUDEST ROOGLES/ROOFLES@GOOGLE.COM LMAOWNED ROFLOSER BBQUEER OMGZ BBQ STFU
ROFLES ROFLES ROFLES ROFLES I'M NOT CLICKING YOUR GOATSE/TUBGIRL LINKS ASSPRIME.
Step #1: Step #2:
STEP 1: TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER STEP 2: ? STEP 3: APRIME GOES THE FUCK AWAY. OMGWTFBBQ
THAT'S SO CUTE HE'S HAPPY THAT YOU'LL GO AWAY TOO!
Do any of you remember Men of God? They always kicked for swearing... You'd yell ZOMG LIEK SAKURA ON TEH OVERPASS! And get kicked for OVERPASS.
Doitle wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 01:38 Do any of you remember Men of God? They always kicked for swearing... You'd yell ZOMG LIEK SAKURA ON TEH OVERPASS! And get kicked for OVERPASS. Wow. That and, "...such as stealing" on one game I played.
The golf MMORPG me and Smiley_Dude plays is like that with the continued word swear filter. By the way, great game: http://www.shot-online.com. Anyhow he's like I really thought I was going into that water! Which shows up as: I really thought I was going into tha_ ___er!
We had a thread on this before: search it and read, then hope this topic gets closed.
$c0p3 wrote on Fri, 04 August 2006 23:47 Server owners believe it's right to keep swearing to the minimum Can those stupid morons who run the servers use some common sense and let people flame eachother? key word OWNERS, they own the servers, they pay for them, they provide them to fucktards like you free of charge, they make the rules that THEY want - If you want to make the rules go host a server. Stupid Morons?? Comon Sense?? there is no common sense to people flaming each other and insulting the people who provide you with a FREE gaming experience is not clever - you sir are a fucking idiot. Comrade wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 00:49 What? Sorry, I was busy feeding my cats. For the record, this made me laugh (out loud)
I thought up the idea of a mod for people who are religo-nutsoid some days ago. It goes where Nod and GDI don't actually shoot eachother. They can go and sit down in like the GDI barracks and just type to eachother. No punching, no shooting, least of all NO SWEARING. They can go on tour rides in APCs and perhaps even share humvees and buggies together. They could maybe walk down the beach on islands and get a cool tan. I mean seriously WOULDN'T IT BE SO MUCH FUN?! Who needs violence in video games? (physical/verbal) WE CAN ALL JUST MOSEY ALONG AND HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME HOLDING HANDS. Because VIOLENCE people is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD. I think every no-swearing server should put this mod in and it will bring peace.
Getting kicked for swearing is retarded, only time I will ever kick a person for swearing is when.. 1) They said a racist word. 2) They are totaly flaming an other player. 3) They used a mother joke. Everything elas am ok with.
Boomer, why not just host your own server where this terrible injustice doesn't happen? If you're right, you'll have lots of traffic (I can't think of a better word), surely?
haha @ guy who said thing about overpASS haha <3 de7 and spoony you know i wont do that so why even say it. i barely ever play on public servers, but i know id play more if the rules werent so stupid. why is keeping swearing to the minimum such a high priority and stopping team hampering and all that shit not? it makes no sense. i fully understand that there are people who pay for these servers and are entitled to their own rules, but why should that mean that we should just simply follow their stupidity? im sure no one would have a problem in changing their servers in order to make the community happier & just basically.. better. people dont host their own servers just for themselves. they also do it because they feel it would make the community happier (or well thats how i would feel). we dont have to ask them to change everything in an offensive way like syaing "K UR GAY, UR RULES R GAY CHANGED THEM CUZ UR GAY" -- there can easily be a mature way of changing everything. and if u think that the way things now r fine then well, i think u should read de7's post cuz he's made a very valid point.
OMG HAHAHAHAH! I was playin in a server (cant remember wich 1) I said "OMFG FLAME RUSH!" and got kicked!!! HAHAHAH!
And was that fair? No. You see, that's what I'm talking about.
z310 wrote on Fri, 04 August 2006 23:35 Comrade wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 01:22 It's your duty to read the rules of a server before connecting to it. If you're in disagreement with those rules, don't connect. Agreed. It is completely up to the server owner what the rules are. If you don't like the rules, tough, play on another server.
Comrade wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 01:22 It's your duty to read the rules of a server before connecting to it. If you're in disagreement with those rules, don't connect. IWarriors wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 04:13 Getting kicked for swearing is retarded, only time I will ever kick a person for swearing is when.. 1) They said a racist word. 2) They are totaly flaming an other player. 3) They used a mother joke. Everything elas am ok with. ^-- I agree with both of them. The rules should not be excessively strict, as this is a Teen-rated game with a disclaimer of "Experience may change during online play". However, certain words/phrases indeed go over the line, and those who use them deserve to be warned/(q)kicked/banned for a day. Sniper_De7 wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 04:04 I thought up the idea of a mod for people who are religo-nutsoid some days ago. It goes where Nod and GDI [...] can go on tour rides in APCs and perhaps even share humvees and buggies together. Whitedragon just made that mod a few days ago
While obviously people who pay for servers are under no obligation to anyone, I've always failed to see how preventing me from saying "shit" really improves anyone's experience. I also hate the servers where some tard and I will start flaming each other and the mods get mad and threaten to ban us both. Fuck. I enjoy fighting with idiots while I play Renegade. To me that's fun. And it's pretty annoying when some self-righteous 15-year-old moderator gets a boner from kicking you for "OMF BE NIEC LOL".
Scope, you already posted this about a month ago. Do you really have nothing else to talk about? Yes, it's stupid, but what can you do? People with rules like that have their heads up their asses. Take the UNRULES server, for example. So, what can you do? You do everything in your power to get banned, just in case you have a craving to play at stupid servers like that, and then you laugh about it behind their backs.
I don't remember posting about this before, but if I did that doesn't matter. It's so gay how so many of you are fine with this. I can't believe you'd rather leave things as they are. All you need is a bunch of people complaining to the server owners and things will change Thank god we still have people like mrp and de7 here
IWarriors wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 07:13 Getting kicked for swearing is retarded, only time I will ever kick a person for swearing is when.. 1) They said a racist word. 2) They are totaly flaming an other player. 3) They used a mother joke. Everything elas am ok with. What you've proven is that you, just like the server owner, have an opinion regarding what is acceptible and what isn't. Since it's their server, their opinion wins.
For the record, as you can see that I don't filter swearing (only racism) here, I carry that same rule in my server (n00bstories). Swearing is allowed, racist insults are not. There are a few other servers like that. My advice to you is to find the servers that allow it and play on them. I know that children WILL hear all the colorful swear words well before they're old enough to use them. It's good parenting that wins in the end, not trying to shield your children from the horrors of words.
Dover wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 14:24 So, what can you do? You do everything in your power to get banned I hate the motherfuckers who don't have enough self-control to NOT do a simple action like click onto a server that has strict language rules. All they accomplish is making the moderators even more convinced that they banned a blithering moron. When I join a game, I don't see it as a place to exercise my right to free speech. I go around killing the other team and blowing up buildings. I use the chat only when I need to, like when a fully-loaded APC comes barrelling over the bridge on City_Flying or a stank tries to hide behind a building. Chatting is only 10-15% of the game, but when people are denied 10 words out of over a million in the English language they treat it more seriously than it deserves. Even if I didn't agree with the rules (ex. banning for "hell" or "damn" or something mild), getting myself banned ultimately equals 1 less server to play on. In short, it's leave or shut up. [/$0.02]
mrpirate wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 13:25 While obviously people who pay for servers are under no obligation to anyone, I've always failed to see how preventing me from saying "shit" really improves anyone's experience. I also hate the servers where some tard and I will start flaming each other and the mods get mad and threaten to ban us both. Fuck. I enjoy fighting with idiots while I play Renegade. To me that's fun. And it's pretty annoying when some self-righteous 15-year-old moderator gets a boner from kicking you for "OMF BE NIEC LOL". Swearing is one thing, holding a long drawn out argument that spams chat is quite another. If i had a nickle for every time I had missed an important teamchat message because of some idiots spamming away in their arguments, I would have quite a few rolls of nickles.
msgtpain wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 15:30 IWarriors wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 07:13 Getting kicked for swearing is retarded, only time I will ever kick a person for swearing is when.. 1) They said a racist word. 2) They are totaly flaming an other player. 3) They used a mother joke. Everything elas am ok with. What you've proven is that you, just like the server owner, have an opinion regarding what is acceptible and what isn't. Since it's their server, their opinion wins. Hmm My opinion is the same as everyone elas I like to think, if not then there is something wrong with you. Being racist is not acceptable anywhere anytime. Verbal abuse against someone is also not socially acceptable. You should always honour an mother, to make a joke against someones mother is to make a joke against yours, if you have no respect for theirs, then you dont respect yours. Failing to comply with these three simple things, will lead to you getting fucked over. Other then that am happy with people swearing, aslong you dont over do it, there are standards.
IWarriors wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 07:13 Getting kicked for swearing is retarded, only time I will ever kick a person for swearing is when... 1) They said a racist word. 2) They are totaly flaming an other player. 3) They used a mother joke. Everything elas am ok with. hahhaha
$c0p3 wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 12:53 I don't remember posting about this before, http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=19052 That was in March At any rate, I agree with you. These are stupid rules. Just don't beat this dead horse. No amount of complaining on the Public forums will change what servers like UNRULES think, or do.
i like what i said $c0p3 wrote on Tue, 14 March 2006 22:18 This about getting kicked for saying bad words in game. I'd just like to know the community's real opinion behind kicking people for swearing in a violent video game. In my opinion, one shouldn't be kicked for swearing in a violent video game. Renegade is a violent video game, as you constantly kill & destroy people and buildings or vehicles, and well, according to the law killing is a much greater offence than swearing. If I was to get mad while playing Renegade, it'd be because somebody killed me, not because someone swore at me. I just don't understand how server owners promote violence (I say this because if they didn't promote violence they wouldn't have servers up to give people access to virtual killings), and are entirely against swearing. If you can virtually kill someone, why can't you virtually swear at someone? And not only that, most Internet games are rated T for Teen, right? If you were to have a certain rule in your server (like if you swear you get kicked) because there's a chance that a little kid is playing the game, well, that isn't your responsibility. An 8 year old technically isn't even allowed to play the game so it's safe to assume that everybody in your server is okay with swearing. Anyways, let's face it, swearing is part of every teen's vocabulary, and this community is made up of teens for the most part. So, what do you guys think? Should you be able to virtually kill and virtually swear, or virtually kill and not virtually swear?
@SpyGuy: It's not quite as simple as that. I'm banned from a fair portion of the big Renegade communities. Any time I want to play Renegade there are really only 4 or 5 decent sized servers I can join. If I start not joining servers with language policies (what, 90% of them?) then I'd barely be able to play Renegade at all. @DreamWraith: I think you can change the number of lines displayed at a time in the registry. By the way, I also realize how unsatisfied you will be with this reply.
I wonder why there are language rules when there is:
I don't think Gamespy, for one, uses that particular filter.
I'm not even sure whether it truly works or it's just there to be there.
it was probably one of those things that never actually got finished...
danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 12:01 it was probably one of those things that never actually got finished... Ah it does work. :/
what, actually works effectivly, or filters one or two words? I always thought it did nothing...
danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 07:06 what, actually works effectivly, or filters one or two words? I always thought it did nothing... The filter built inside Renegade works on most words I would think, though I havent gone though every single swear word I know, lol, but it covers words like fuck and such.. so I guess it would cover more. I always forgot to turn it off when I re-install renny.
These are the stupidest discussions. We've had them several times over. A server owner is free to do what they want. If they want to kick you for saying "lol", then they have every right to do so... as ridiculous as it may seem to you or others. They pay for the bandwidth, they can do with it as they please. You have no right to claim otherwise. Also, the ESRB rating isn't a requirement. It's simply a suggestion as to who should be allowed to play with respects to their ages. Ultimately, the parents are the ones who decide if their kids get to play. If you host a server. You can do as you want with it. You create the rules. You enforce the rules. If someone asks you not to swear, respect their wishes or leave. It's that simple. You have no right to say that they're wrong. Agree with it or not, it's their decision.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 16:53 These are the stupidest discussions. We've had them several times over. A server owner is free to do what they want. If they want to kick you for saying "lol", then they have every right to do so... as ridiculous as it may seem to you or others. They pay for the bandwidth, they can do with it as they please. You have no right to claim otherwise. Also, the ESRB rating isn't a requirement. It's simply a suggestion as to who should be allowed to play with respects to their ages. Ultimately, the parents are the ones who decide if their kids get to play. If you host a server. You can do as you want with it. You create the rules. You enforce the rules. If someone asks you not to swear, respect their wishes or leave. It's that simple. You have no right to say that they're wrong. Agree with it or not, it's their decision. That sounds like naziism.. do what we say or die... good thing our countrys aint like that.
IWarriors wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 11:05 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 16:53 These are the stupidest discussions. We've had them several times over. A server owner is free to do what they want. If they want to kick you for saying "lol", then they have every right to do so... as ridiculous as it may seem to you or others. They pay for the bandwidth, they can do with it as they please. You have no right to claim otherwise. Also, the ESRB rating isn't a requirement. It's simply a suggestion as to who should be allowed to play with respects to their ages. Ultimately, the parents are the ones who decide if their kids get to play. If you host a server. You can do as you want with it. You create the rules. You enforce the rules. If someone asks you not to swear, respect their wishes or leave. It's that simple. You have no right to say that they're wrong. Agree with it or not, it's their decision. That sounds like naziism.. do what we say or die... good thing our countrys aint like that. How is that naziism? Are you going to call your parents nazis when they ask you not to swear in front of them or guests? If so, then you can twist just about everything into being a form of naziism. The idea is simple: you control what you own. You're not forcing people to obey by your rules and stay in your server. They're free to leave if they don't like it. It's far from being fascist.
The Filter could work. IF they could take RG and have hte next CP update the filter for word bypasses that would pretty much fix the language issues.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 10:39 IWarriors wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 11:05 j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 16:53 These are the stupidest discussions. We've had them several times over. A server owner is free to do what they want. If they want to kick you for saying "lol", then they have every right to do so... as ridiculous as it may seem to you or others. They pay for the bandwidth, they can do with it as they please. You have no right to claim otherwise. Also, the ESRB rating isn't a requirement. It's simply a suggestion as to who should be allowed to play with respects to their ages. Ultimately, the parents are the ones who decide if their kids get to play. If you host a server. You can do as you want with it. You create the rules. You enforce the rules. If someone asks you not to swear, respect their wishes or leave. It's that simple. You have no right to say that they're wrong. Agree with it or not, it's their decision. That sounds like naziism.. do what we say or die... good thing our countrys aint like that. How is that naziism? Are you going to call your parents nazis when they ask you not to swear in front of them or guests? If so, then you can twist just about everything into being a form of naziism. The idea is simple: you control what you own. You're not forcing people to obey by your rules and stay in your server. They're free to leave if they don't like it. It's far from being fascist. I might have used a too strong word for this, but what you trying to say, cause this is my server, you do as I say or elas. I hate server owners who go by that, it shouldnt be like that, yes they have that right to say that as they own it and maybe put money towards it, but that doesnt mean they are right or just to say that.
IWarriors wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 14:19 I might have used a too strong word for this, but what you trying to say, cause this is my server, you do as I say or elas. I hate server owners who go by that, it shouldnt be like that, yes they have that right to say that as they own it and maybe put money towards it, but that doesnt mean they are right or just to say that. Who are you to say what's right or wrong for a server owner? It's soley your opinion. You do what you think is right, and others will do what they think is right. Just because the ideas may clash doesn't mean that one opinion is the absolute. I'm not saying server owners SHOULD do whatever they want no matter how ridiculous, but what makes them wrong in doing so? Nothing. If you don't like certain rules, then don't play on the servers with said rules. If you want to play on those servers, swallow your pride, join, and respect the wishes of the server owners. The rule for no swearing is not an outrageous one. It's a fairly simple and common rule. I wouldn't run a server with that rule, but it's nothing that changes the game. You're still playing Renegade whether or not you're allowed to swear. Swearing is not an essential part of the game, therefore, disallowing it doesn't harm the game. Plus, we could all use a little restraint in our vulgar vocabulary.
Sniper_De7 wrote on Sat, 05 August 2006 13:04 I thought up the idea of a mod for people who are religo-nutsoid some days ago. It goes where Nod and GDI don't actually shoot eachother. They can go and sit down in like the GDI barracks and just type to eachother. No punching, no shooting, least of all NO SWEARING. They can go on tour rides in APCs and perhaps even share humvees and buggies together. They could maybe walk down the beach on islands and get a cool tan. I mean seriously WOULDN'T IT BE SO MUCH FUN?! Who needs violence in video games? (physical/verbal) WE CAN ALL JUST MOSEY ALONG AND HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME HOLDING HANDS. Because VIOLENCE people is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD. I think every no-swearing server should put this mod in and it will bring peace. lol. No swearing in a violent game. It's like saying, here have a gun, but you can't have bullets. Or..lets have sex, but we can't touch. IT'S RETARDED. Fair enough if the game was Pokemon or something, but its not, its Renegade, you go round shooting the fuck out of each other for fun.
False analogies. Violent games don't necessitate swearing. Doom has no swearing. It has no talking at all. Renegade has very minimal swearing. The most vulgar it gets is "She's pissed." He even says "butt" instead of "ass." Massive swearing in violent games is a relatively new trend.
Its not massive at all, something goes wrong, say you burn your hand, you swear. You die, you swear. Simple. Its like football matches in England supporters chant swear words at the top of their voices..do you think parents stay away and keep their kids away? Fuck do they. The parents(notably the dad) is probably chanting it too. Lets face it, i knew every swearword in the book by the time i was 9 or so. The whole logic of this protecting kids is complete shite.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 14:17 IWarriors wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 14:19 I might have used a too strong word for this, but what you trying to say, cause this is my server, you do as I say or elas. I hate server owners who go by that, it shouldnt be like that, yes they have that right to say that as they own it and maybe put money towards it, but that doesnt mean they are right or just to say that. Who are you to say what's right or wrong for a server owner? It's soley your opinion. You do what you think is right, and others will do what they think is right. Just because the ideas may clash doesn't mean that one opinion is the absolute. I'm not saying server owners SHOULD do whatever they want no matter how ridiculous, but what makes them wrong in doing so? Nothing. If you don't like certain rules, then don't play on the servers with said rules. If you want to play on those servers, swallow your pride, join, and respect the wishes of the server owners. The rule for no swearing is not an outrageous one. It's a fairly simple and common rule. I wouldn't run a server with that rule, but it's nothing that changes the game. You're still playing Renegade whether or not you're allowed to swear. Swearing is not an essential part of the game, therefore, disallowing it doesn't harm the game. Plus, we could all use a little restraint in our vulgar vocabulary. I totaly agree on alot of what you just said. But I think that making such a rule is outrageous is cause there isnt any laws against people swearing, unless you go over the top and get nicked by a cop for disturbing the peace. Most people who are for the no swearing rule says its to protect the kids who are watching or playing, well they shouldnt be watching or playing anyway, as the game has a 15+ age rating (my country) and as the game is full of death and all about killing... makes no swearing seem abit silly.
Server owners are in charge of their own server, period. It's not naziism... it's a dictatorship. They pay for the server to be there. It's like visiting their home. If they don't want you to swear in their home, they will kick you out if you do. It's very simple. Personally, I won't try take part in raising other people's kids.
IWarriors wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 16:29 Most people who are for the no swearing rule says its to protect the kids who are watching or playing, well they shouldnt be watching or playing anyway, as the game has a 15+ age rating (my country) and as the game is full of death and all about killing... makes no swearing seem abit silly. I agree that the reasoning for it is fairly stupid if it's just soley to protect the eyes of little kids. As you said, the game is full of death and destruction. It's not a "nice" game per-se. However, it's a rule that just requires a little restraint on the users. Not liking the rule is no ticket for you to disobey it.
For some people its not about protecting others. Some people just dont care to see swearing in their servers because of their own personal preference. Just because someone doesnt allow something doesnt mean they are necessarily trying to protect anyone, or a specific group of people. It simply means they are imposing their preferences on their server which they pay for. If joe blow server owner wants to be able to play in his server without seeing other people swear, it is his right to kick people for doing so.
j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 16:31 IWarriors wrote on Sun, 06 August 2006 16:29 Most people who are for the no swearing rule says its to protect the kids who are watching or playing, well they shouldnt be watching or playing anyway, as the game has a 15+ age rating (my country) and as the game is full of death and all about killing... makes no swearing seem abit silly. I agree that the reasoning for it is fairly stupid if it's just soley to protect the eyes of little kids. As you said, the game is full of death and destruction. It's not a "nice" game per-se. However, it's a rule that just requires a little restraint on the users. Not liking the rule is no ticket for you to disobey it. Yes, well I wouldnt disobey it nor do I play on any server that has no swearing... I dont swear much myself, but I will swear when things goes bad like every other person.
"You can't swear in my business." "You can't swear in my server." Simple?