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Increase Renegades performance.
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description: CNC Den News Article Improving Renegade's Performance Sunday - June 18, 2006 (08:41 AM) by Lion Renegade For those of you who continue to play C&C Renegade, you might want to check out http://www.understorm.net/rend3d9/ that offers the 'RenD3D9 Project' to help improve your gaming experience. The RenD3D9 project makes C&C Renegade use Direct3D 9.0c instead of Direct3D 8.1. And adds certain optimizations to gain extra FPS and faster loading times on certain NVidia cards. Also comes with a new wwconfig to configure the additional features. Check the http://www.understorm.net/rend3d9/ for more info and the download. Supported Hardware: Certain Intel hardware is supported aswell, let me know if they work out for you. * ATI Radeon 8000 series * ATI Radeon 9000 series * ATI Radeon X000 series * ATI Radeon X1000 series * NVIDIA GeForce 4 series * NVIDIA GeForce FX series * NVIDIA GeForce PCX series * NVIDIA GeForce 6 series * NVIDIA GeForce 7 series I tested this patch out for a bit on my XFX GeForce FX5200. With Anti Aliasing 4x and Antistropic Filtering 8x enabled I got 130 FPS. Before I installed the patch I used to only get 80 FPS with Anti Aliasing and Antistropic Filtering disabled. So a worthy patch to have installed. I did not, however, test it during online play.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-19T04:43:18-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: COOL! Will try when I get ren workin...
creator: Viking
date: 2006-06-19T06:05:02-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: that's awesome... it would be even cooler if DX9 features were implemented, like better lighting and shadows. if that happened I would start playing again (not that graphics are better than gameplay, it would just be a new experience).
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-19T06:06:25-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I tried it with my GeForce 7300GS and it removed all the text and my cursor from the screen.. I'll try installing the version of DirectX that was linked to but I already have 9.0c.. Edit: It will only work in windowed mode for me.. And what kind of changes would I be able to see? I have everything set at the highest level normally so I don't see much of a difference.. :S
creator: Tunaman
date: 2006-06-19T06:54:43-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: will this work on the FX5200 PCI cards too, or just AGP/PCI-e?
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-19T08:26:13-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: You guys should thank scorpia for this.
creator: sterps
date: 2006-06-19T09:45:16-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I suppose using this on a Ti4200 will show little improvement?
creator: light
date: 2006-06-19T09:48:52-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: well, that card doesn't support DirectX 9.0.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-19T09:51:31-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Quote: I tried it with my GeForce 7300GS and it removed all the text and my cursor from the screen.. I'll try installing the version of DirectX that was linked to but I already have 9.0c.. Edit: It will only work in windowed mode for me.. Dont Get It And what kind of changes would I be able to see? I have everything set at the highest level normally so I don't see much of a difference.. :S Did you check to see if your card was one of the supported cards on the list? Quote: will this work on the FX5200 PCI cards too, or just AGP/PCI-e? It works on either AGP or PCI versions of each of the supported cards.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-19T12:23:34-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: 130 FPS on an FX 5200? haha.
creator: mrpirate
date: 2006-06-19T15:37:38-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Will this work on a GeForce 2 MX 440 64 Mb/will it be worth downloading? I know it's a slow card, but my 9800 Pro burned out, literally, on me a couple months ago.
creator: SuperFlyingEngi
date: 2006-06-19T17:09:29-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Don't download this if you're card does not use DirectX 9.0c. You'll get worse performance than before (atleast that's how it should work if the engine uses newer technology). Wouldn't this also benefit ATI cards as well?
creator: Jaspah
date: 2006-06-19T17:42:39-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I updated the post with the list of supported hardware.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-19T17:51:18-00:00

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description: Right... how can i uninstall this since it has worsend it down to 12 FPS? The card is: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 running "nv4_disp.dll" as its main driver. EDIT: its ok, i uninstalled it by deleting the two files (.exe and .dll)
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-19T18:01:41-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Umm... I'm guessing the GeForce 7300 is included in the NVIDIA GeForce 7 series so I'm pretty sure that it's supported.. I like playing in windowed mode anyways, finally I'm able to use VSync while playing windowed mode(my renegade freaks out when it gets over 90 fps so I use VSync to keep it stable) so that's pretty cool.
creator: Tunaman
date: 2006-06-19T18:02:48-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I usually use vsync because the tearing gives me a headache.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-19T19:06:44-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: My fps went 20% higher than before.
creator: Homey
date: 2006-06-19T19:33:54-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Homey wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 14:33 My fps went 20% higher than before. 20-40% for me, and the game looks better.
creator: Ma1kel
date: 2006-06-19T20:03:42-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Well, for some weird reason the game crashes right after I load. I got the newest DirectX and everything. EDIT: Nevermind, I just needed to reboot. I tested it online and it works fine, but I don't even see any difference. My FPS is the same as it always is at those settings.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-19T23:13:12-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 22:06 I usually use vsync because the tearing gives me a headache. tearing?what is vsync for anyways?
creator: Mad Ivan
date: 2006-06-19T23:48:29-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Vertical Synchronization is an option found in many games that allows the frame rate of the game to be matched to the refresh rate of the monitor. Generally, allowing VSync provides the greatest stability, but turning it off can allow for much higher frame rates.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-19T23:50:23-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Dang this thing even fixed my generals. My water would always flash on any maps or menus and after this little patch its perfect now. Question though, generals is the renegade engine but shouldnt this patch be directed tword renegade only?
creator: Oblivion165
date: 2006-06-19T23:54:08-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: This just raised my average frame rate up by 5 to 10 frames. I like it so far, but if I see any adverse side to this its good we can just switch back. I mean I can live with 45 frames in a 40 player game while running outside. Not that big of a deal with me but it does help. Thanks Scorpio.
creator: GoArmy44
date: 2006-06-19T23:54:28-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Most people don't even notice, but it bugs the crap out of me if it's off. By tearing I mean you actually see lines across the screen between frames. it's kind of hard to describe, you have to see it. I don't know why almost everyone doesn't even notice, but I see it so easily.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-19T23:55:57-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 19:55 Most people don't even notice, but it bugs the crap out of me if it's off. By tearing I mean you actually see lines across the screen between frames. it's kind of hard to describe, you have to see it. I don't know why almost everyone doesn't even notice, but I see it so easily. Artifacts ftl.
creator: Jaspah
date: 2006-06-20T00:35:30-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Quote: Dang this thing even fixed my generals. My water would always flash on any maps or menus and after this little patch its perfect now. Question though, generals is the renegade engine but shouldnt this patch be directed tword renegade only? I don't know much of anything about DirectX or Direct3D, but maybe since Generals and Renegade use the same engine, the programs share similar functions, in which this patch can use [DllImport] and [DllExport] functions to access them. For example: Generals contains some FunctionX(); and Renegade contains the same some FunctionX(); The patch uses [DllImport] and [DllExport] to retrieve those functions and has the same produced effect on each. I don't know if that makes any sense, but it's just a thought. (I use a similar method to retrieve functions from two seperate Windows Forms in my applications)
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-20T01:57:48-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Dead Dave wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 20:57 Generals and Renegade use the same engine Nein.
creator: cmatt42
date: 2006-06-20T05:53:23-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: cmatt42 wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 23:53 Dead Dave wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 20:57 Generals and Renegade use the same engine Nein. Quote: Question though, generals is the renegade engine but
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-20T08:39:08-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: icedog90 wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 18:55 Most people don't even notice, but it bugs the crap out of me if it's off. By tearing I mean you actually see lines across the screen between frames. it's kind of hard to describe, you have to see it. I don't know why almost everyone doesn't even notice, but I see it so easily. I also notice that when it's off, and it really looks ugly.
creator: Ma1kel
date: 2006-06-20T10:28:28-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: The source engine uses W3D files, same with BFME, does this mean that C&C 3 TW will use W3Ds too? If it does, im making a C&C 3 mod for renegade.
creator: JeepRubi
date: 2006-06-20T12:19:24-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: cmatt42 wrote on Tue, 20 June 2006 01:53 Dead Dave wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 20:57 Generals and Renegade use the same engine Nein. Tis There is tremendous evidence that it is the renegade engine with just updates to graphic points like shadowing and lighting. Im not saying its a TC or something like that but it uses W3D (Same exact one as Renegade, header is at the end of file instead of the beginning) might be visa-versa Uses RenX to model and bone. All objects are boned the same way as renegade. Maps use heightfield (Enhanced of course) It is the renegade engine, just in a different shell. Other Note: 2,000th Post
creator: Oblivion165
date: 2006-06-20T12:34:08-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: if generals (basically) uses the renegade engine, couldnt someone sort of port the generals engine into renegade?
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-20T13:57:34-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Oblivion165 wrote on Tue, 20 June 2006 14:34 cmatt42 wrote on Tue, 20 June 2006 01:53 Dead Dave wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 20:57 Generals and Renegade use the same engine Nein. Tis There is tremendous evidence that it is the renegade engine with just updates to graphic points like shadowing and lighting. Im not saying its a TC or something like that but it uses W3D (Same exact one as Renegade, header is at the end of file instead of the beginning) might be visa-versa Uses RenX to model and bone. All objects are boned the same way as renegade. Maps use heightfield (Enhanced of course) It is the renegade engine, just in a different shell. Other Note: 2,000th Post GG'd Nice way to reach the big 2000
creator: MexPirate
date: 2006-06-20T15:47:42-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: They don't use the same engine. This will work on any game. it has nothing to do with how similar the engines are.
creator: Renx
date: 2006-06-20T15:57:05-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Generals uses the SAGE engine, which is being modified for C&C 3.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-20T18:59:52-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Generals is DX8-based and it's simply a port of the W3D Engine to a rts-variant, named SAGE. This should work there too. *removes dust from generals cds*
creator: Mad Ivan
date: 2006-06-20T20:38:19-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Renx wrote on Tue, 20 June 2006 12:57 This will work on any game. it has nothing to do with how similar the engines are.
creator: Renx
date: 2006-06-20T20:53:10-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Getting back on topic here... I, personally wouldent reccomend using this utility if you (still) use old PCI cards as it may decrease perfomance.
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-20T21:14:44-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: It shouldn't be used on any cards that don't default to DX9. Old PCI cards would most likely fall into that catagory.
creator: Renx
date: 2006-06-20T21:41:54-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Its not DX9, that runs fine on the card. Maybe its the utility? Maybe i installed it wrong since there was no instructions for installation? All i know it it failed to boost my FPS so its uninstalled from my system.
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-20T22:43:15-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Quote: Getting back on topic here... I, personally wouldent reccomend using this utility if you (still) use old PCI cards as it may decrease perfomance. My card is PCI and it supports DirectX 9c and OpenGL 1.5. It doesn't get that great of performance on newer games but it runs most of them fine for me. And there were instructions on how to install the patch on there website just a tad further down from the download link. Quote: How to install: Download and unzip the latest build of RenD3D9 and extract the contents in to your Renegade game directory. After you installed RenD3D9 launch wwconfig2.exe (located in your renegade directory) to configure the new features. To be able to run RenD3D9 make sure to install the DirectX 9.0c June 2006 release.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-20T23:23:40-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Scorpio: I am getting both a crash and a freeze... To crash RenD3D9, press Alt-Tab while Ren is loading a map. O.o
creator: =HT=T-Bird
date: 2006-06-21T00:19:28-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Well, it may be the fact that when i edit "WWConfig2.exe" and hit "ok" it returnes to normal/default. Anywho, i'm ok without it.
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-21T00:23:26-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Might install Ren again to try this out. Even with a 6800GS my FPS was never exceptional (70-80) but it'll be interesting to see how this works. On my old Radeon there was a DX option to unlimit the FPS and I got about 300 on the menu screen but I can't remember what it was. As for Vsync, it basically sychronizes the FPS with the screen refresh rate which somebody has already said. A CRT draws the screen with a single point/dot spanning the screen from top to bottom really fast (refresh rate speed), drawing each dot/pixel in horizontal lines and Vsync allows it to keep up. Atleast that's how I think it works. I dunno about TFTs. Do you get ripping on them? I'm guessing you do but the screen must draw differently.
creator: Sanada78
date: 2006-06-21T01:23:36-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Ma1kel wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 16:03 Homey wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 14:33 My fps went 20% higher than before. 20-40% for me, and the game looks better. Yep nice and crisp.
creator: Homey
date: 2006-06-21T01:38:32-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Yeah, you get ripping on LCD monitors. Don't expect a performance boost, sanada. I have a 6800 and the only thing that goes faster is the loading screen. This is better for people who have somewhere around the FX series and the ATi 9000 series.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-21T01:41:08-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Cool, but could this get you banned from renguard?
creator: kopaka649
date: 2006-06-21T02:24:04-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I doubt it. It doesn't interfere with anything so I don't see why Crimson would ban anyone for using this.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-21T04:07:47-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I actually think this should be stickied.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-21T04:56:09-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I can't see this helping the 4 series. Are you sure? I'll try it if it will in fact help but I'm skeptical. Dx9 is mean to me and my GF4 and I don't see using DX9 optimizations helping.
creator: Doitle
date: 2006-06-21T06:22:54-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: It didn't help for my GeForce Go5700FX but it didn't do any bad neather. It just well, staid the same .
creator: Goztow
date: 2006-06-21T06:30:31-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: You should at least get faster loading times.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-21T06:44:05-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: icedog90 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 08:44 You should at least get faster loading times. Thanks to scripts.dll they already are very fast.
creator: Goztow
date: 2006-06-21T06:45:25-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I get 700+ fps when on the loading screen and 100+ fps on the menus. There isn't much difference when on Online play. Its an old Mobility Radeon 9200, so I can't squeeze too much out of it.
creator: nopol10
date: 2006-06-21T09:18:10-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Certainly looks nicer, no real fps change (still a steady 75), but I had all the effects on full, using a radeon 9800se, and there are some nice effects ingame... One problem... it causes renguard to crash on loading.. why is this? Renegade loads normally if you start it using game2.exe, but if you load renguard it crashes.... if this is not going to be compatable with rg I will have to remove it again..
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-21T09:34:33-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: oh, and another thing, renegade now crashes when you alt-tab >.< I presume it's not supposed to do this?
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-21T11:05:53-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 06:05 oh, and another thing, renegade now crashes when you alt-tab >.< I presume it's not supposed to do this? I have the same problem...I think its a bug >.<
creator: =HT=T-Bird
date: 2006-06-21T12:07:04-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Remember though, this patch is still in its early stages of developement considering it is fairly new. Over time I sure the bugs will get worked out. Quote: I actually think this should be stickied. That would be a good idea. It would benefit not only members of this forum who don't visit often, (so may never see this topic), and it would benefit new members as well.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-21T14:47:04-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 06:05 oh, and another thing, renegade now crashes when you alt-tab >.< I presume it's not supposed to do this? Hit the Windows Key, (found between the CTRL and ALT keys) always works to minimise for me.
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-21T16:05:31-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 02:34 Certainly looks nicer, no real fps change (still a steady 75) it's because you have vsync enabled.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-21T16:28:30-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: oh, ok *goes to try without vsync* well fps goes up to 120+, 150 when looking at animated objects (wierd how it goes HIGHER when theres more processing to do... but meh.. not complaining ) Oh, and I agree with your siggy, TA Spring is great EDIT: oh, and minimising with the windows key has the same effect, when you try to reopen the renegade window it crashes
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-21T18:53:16-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: icedog90 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 18:28 danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 02:34 Certainly looks nicer, no real fps change (still a steady 75) it's because you have vsync enabled. You are so right, my FPS now is up to 120...
creator: Goztow
date: 2006-06-21T19:36:03-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Dead Dave wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 06:43 I tested this patch out for a bit on my XFX GeForce FX5200. With Anti Aliasing 4x and Antistropic Filtering 8x enabled I got 130 FPS. Before I installed the patch I used to only get 80 FPS with Anti Aliasing and Antistropic Filtering disabled. OMFG (I must write it this time)= I have an Intel Pentium4 with 2,4Ghz / 1GB real good GSkill Ram and the FX5200. And I want to know what kind of CPU do you use? The fps values you've posted are in some Areas of a Nvidia 6600GT! ----------------------- To stop those questions about Videocards which are supporting DX9= Nvidia= Geforce 5 (FX), Geforce 6 and Geforce 7 up to 7900GTX ATI= Radeon 9000 series, all X000 series, all X1000series and higher up to X1900XTX (The Radeon 8500 does NOT support DX9), it supports DX8.1!) So this means, the minimum Hardware is a Radeon 9200 or FX5200. Below, there is ZERO DirectX9 Hardware Support present. And don't forget, Renegade is coded in DirectX, so a better CPU is more important than a better Videocard. A faster Videocard with more Speed is good for keeping your FPS constanly at the average Level when big rushes will come. A faster CPU will increase the average FPS... On BF2 or just NFS, it's the same. ----------------------- The news about this tool are going through many forums in Germany now since a member from UES posted them. In my humble opinion, it only can raise the fps by tweaking the graphics driver. This is the same way the DNA- and Omegadrivers tweak the drivers. www.omegadrivers.net -this will increase the FPS up to 70more (depending on the Videocard). ========= @nopol10 You mean 700+ in the menu and 100+ ingame. Ihave had an AMD 3200+, 1GB Corsair Ram and the Nvidia 6600GT. I got in the menu 500+ with the omegadriver and up to 120-130 ingame. I recommend everyone to use the Omegadriver, install it on Quality (because this increass the pure FPS performance also) and look at the console when being ingame. You can easily overclock the…
creator: EA-DamageEverything
date: 2006-06-22T00:29:58-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: it's too bad they stopped supporting nVIDIA 50 years ago.
creator: icedog90
date: 2006-06-22T00:33:59-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: EA-DamageEverything wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 18:29 Dead Dave wrote on Mon, 19 June 2006 06:43 I tested this patch out for a bit on my XFX GeForce FX5200. With Anti Aliasing 4x and Antistropic Filtering 8x enabled I got 130 FPS. Before I installed the patch I used to only get 80 FPS with Anti Aliasing and Antistropic Filtering disabled. OMFG (I must write it this time)= I have an Intel Pentium4 with 2,4Ghz / 1GB real good GSkill Ram and the FX5200. And I want to know what kind of CPU do you use? The fps values you've posted are in some Areas of a Nvidia 6600GT! ----------------------- To stop those questions about Videocards which are supporting DX9= Nvidia= Geforce 5 (FX), Geforce 6 and Geforce 7 up to 7900GTX ATI= Radeon 9000 series, all X000 series, all X1000series and higher up to X1900XTX (The Radeon 8500 does NOT support DX9), it supports DX8.1!) So this means, the minimum Hardware is a Radeon 9200 or FX5200. Below, there is ZERO DirectX9 Hardware Support present. And don't forget, Renegade is coded in DirectX, so a better CPU is more important than a better Videocard. A faster Videocard with more Speed is good for keeping your FPS constanly at the average Level when big rushes will come. A faster CPU will increase the average FPS... Is your video card the "NVIDIA" FX5200 or the "XFX" FX 5200? Quote: I have an Intel Pentium4 with 2,4Ghz / 1GB real good GSkill Ram and the FX5200. I have an Intel Pentium 4 3Ghz, with 1GB of Corsair XMS Gaming RAM, and the XFX FX 5200. And you have to take into account, it isn't just the performance ratings of your hardware that matter. There are other factors to take into consideration as well. Your computers health is the biggest part. Things like your hard drive being extremely fragmented, your RAM being fragmented, your hard drive having low memory, having alot of useless processes running, viruses, spyware, malware, adware, ect. There are alot of factors besides hardware that matters. Also, in a previous post, I said I did …
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-22T01:19:00-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: This project is a definate MUST GET for people owning compatible video cards. I'm actually experiencing the game in full details now whereas I always had to play on the one but lowest performance setting. I still need to find the exact best settings after some testing though.
creator: Goztow
date: 2006-06-22T06:40:24-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: *sigh* All you people saying "I used to get 70FPS" I get 20. I've got to try this tool.
creator: CarrierII
date: 2006-06-22T12:07:50-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: My FPS seems to be much more solid when I'm not recording. I am getting some (seemingly random) lockups of Renegade though...
creator: =HT=T-Bird
date: 2006-06-22T12:23:33-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Anyone with any clue as to why DX9.0c is 52 MB? lol Those people who are getting 700+ FPS... wtf?
creator: CarrierII
date: 2006-06-22T15:23:57-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Mine has never gone past 512 or something just about 500...i think it's a lie.
creator: Homey
date: 2006-06-22T17:32:57-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Wrong, read again. They were getting 700+ FPS on the menu screen, not in game. And it is possible.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-22T18:35:59-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Nice find! How come no one knew about this earlier?
creator: trooprm02
date: 2006-06-22T19:32:45-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I posted this topic only 2 hours after it was posted at CNCDEN. As for how Lion found it, I wouldn't know.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-22T20:10:38-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Through; http://forum.mp-gaming.net/index.php?showtopic=15195&st= 0 I think.
creator: Ma1kel
date: 2006-06-22T20:47:25-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Dead Dave wrote on Thu, 22 June 2006 14:35 Wrong, read again. They were getting 700+ FPS on the menu screen, not in game. And it is possible. I was talking about the menu screen. I'd sure love to see proof, not that having a frame rate over 50 matters.
creator: Homey
date: 2006-06-22T21:00:15-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Dead Dave wrote on Thu, 22 June 2006 14:35 Wrong, read again. They were getting 700+ FPS on the menu screen, not in game. And it is possible. I was talking about the menu screen. I'd sure love to see proof, not that having a frame rate over 50 matters.
creator: Homey
date: 2006-06-22T21:03:15-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I think I might test this thing out when I get my new computer. See how much EXTRA performance I can get out of Dual 7900GTX's SLI'd playing Renegade.
creator: Doitle
date: 2006-06-22T21:29:06-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Homey wrote: Dead Dave wrote on Thu, 22 June 2006 14:35 Wrong, read again. They were getting 700+ FPS on the menu screen, not in game. And it is possible. I was talking about the menu screen. I'd sure love to see proof, not that having a frame rate over 50 matters. I personally do not get 700 FPS on the menu screen, but I have seen as high as 550 on my friends computer. As for proof, you will have to ask the people who stated they got the 700+ FPS or so.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-22T22:52:00-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: none i have dual 7800 gtx and its the exact same
creator: i0ncl0ud9
date: 2006-06-23T05:42:12-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: i0ncl0ud9 wrote on Fri, 23 June 2006 07:42 none i have dual 7800 gtx and its the exact same Did you put vertical sync off? I got around 450 in menu and that's with a GO5700FX, 64 MB...
creator: Goztow
date: 2006-06-23T07:27:50-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: These omega drivers are great:) I get 80-90 FPS ingame and even more when high action is going on. Usually about 120-150 in the "WWUI"
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-23T07:35:06-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Does anyone know how to provide feedback or submit technical problems to the author of this tool? Have looked at the original site and does not appear to be a easily accessible way of posting/informing him/her/them - mind you i may be being stoopit. However, the collective genius's here may well be able to help. I have: AMD 3500+ 2 Gb Ram NVidia GeForce 6200 turbocache 256 mb card (cheap i know, but came with system). Tried the tool but have the following problem. When i start renegade through the Renguard icon, the game "attempts" to load and i get the renegade sound but a blank (black screen). The EA Games splash is not visible,; i click esc to get through the video etc until i arrive at the options screen. Here is the problem. There is all the relevant imagery but no writing and no visible mouse pointer which means it is impossible to progress the load. In reaching that point i had updated the Gphx card drivers from the nvidida site. I had downloaded the correct Direct X and installed it. I even went as far as updating my monitor (LG CRT) drivers. I restarted PC. I un installed Ren (completely) including several registry flushes to ensure complete eradication of Westwood components etc. Did a complete and fresh install of renegade and checked it worked satisfactorily. I tried all the variables in the WWConfig2.exe - all gave the same result. I removed tech two files and ran renegade and it worked perfectly, but with my standard 75 FPS. I ran the prog again in windowed mode and got the game to work but only at 30-40 FPS (i set up a single player server for myself). I turned windowed mode off and got same problem - invisible mouse and no writing. So....................... any constructive advice as i would like to try this and see if it gives an improved game experience.
creator: Refue11er
date: 2006-06-23T08:45:27-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Well actually, 700+ fps is at the screen directly before the map loading screen (joining game dialog box). At the menus, i get 100+ and in the game it drops to 50-70 fps. And one question, how am I going to reinstall ATI's drivers if OmegaDriver screws up my system. (I haven't installed it yet.)
creator: nopol10
date: 2006-06-23T09:24:34-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: OK, Good news. VERY positive results with a: Connect 3D Radeon 9550 512 MB. Can now get 180 FPS on menus and 50 ingame (small servers) Not bad for a seven year old system. Still tweaking.
creator: CarrierII
date: 2006-06-23T10:38:18-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: nopol10 wrote on Fri, 23 June 2006 05:24 Well actually, 700+ fps is at the screen directly before the map loading screen (joining game dialog box). At the menus, i get 100+ and in the game it drops to 50-70 fps. And one question, how am I going to reinstall ATI's drivers if OmegaDriver screws up my system. (I haven't installed it yet.) If you need to reinstall the ATI drivers simply download the latest one from the ATI site. Then uninstall Radeon Omega Driver form your add/remove programs list and run the executable to install the ATI one. I doubt you will have any problems with it, I use the Omega drivers and I find that they are much more reliable than the ATI ones. The ATI Tray Tools also have some nice features that I use. -- Edited to quote right post.
creator: almor999
date: 2006-06-23T11:42:26-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: almor999 wrote on Fri, 23 June 2006 07:42 Refue11er wrote on Fri, 23 June 2006 04:45 Does anyone know how to provide feedback or submit technical problems to the author of this tool? Have looked at the original site and does not appear to be a easily accessible way of posting/informing him/her/them - mind you i may be being stoopit. However, the collective genius's here may well be able to help. I have: AMD 3500+ 2 Gb Ram NVidia GeForce 6200 turbocache 256 mb card (cheap i know, but came with system). Tried the tool but have the following problem. When i start renegade through the Renguard icon, the game "attempts" to load and i get the renegade sound but a blank (black screen). The EA Games splash is not visible,; i click esc to get through the video etc until i arrive at the options screen. Here is the problem. There is all the relevant imagery but no writing and no visible mouse pointer which means it is impossible to progress the load. In reaching that point i had updated the Gphx card drivers from the nvidida site. I had downloaded the correct Direct X and installed it. I even went as far as updating my monitor (LG CRT) drivers. I restarted PC. I un installed Ren (completely) including several registry flushes to ensure complete eradication of Westwood components etc. Did a complete and fresh install of renegade and checked it worked satisfactorily. I tried all the variables in the WWConfig2.exe - all gave the same result. I removed tech two files and ran renegade and it worked perfectly, but with my standard 75 FPS. I ran the prog again in windowed mode and got the game to work but only at 30-40 FPS (i set up a single player server for myself). I turned windowed mode off and got same problem - invisible mouse and no writing. So....................... any constructive advice as i would like to try this and see if it gives an improved game experience. If you need to reinstall the ATI drivers simply download the latest one from the ATI site. Then uninstall Radeon…
creator: Refue11er
date: 2006-06-23T13:31:12-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 06:05 oh, and another thing, renegade now crashes when you alt-tab >.< I presume it's not supposed to do this? It's a problem with ATi cards, relates to either AA or AF, try turning them off.
creator: Sir Kane
date: 2006-06-23T14:56:05-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Silent Kane wrote on Fri, 23 June 2006 09:56 danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 21 June 2006 06:05 oh, and another thing, renegade now crashes when you alt-tab >.< I presume it's not supposed to do this? It's a problem with ATi cards, relates to either AA or AF, try turning them off. My GF6600GT does this with AA and AF off dude...it's a bug
creator: =HT=T-Bird
date: 2006-06-23T16:10:11-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: either way I hope it is planned to be fixed in the next version. I will try turning AA and AF off, but tbh they are the main attractions of using the program oh well... can't complain
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-23T17:50:12-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: The omeaga drivers are AWESOME! If anyone is wondering if you should use them or not, use them! My rengade doubled the fps and my bf2 went from playing medium graphics to everythin high. Im using a raderon X1300 and its like a whole new card.
creator: JeepRubi
date: 2006-06-23T19:44:26-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: Jeep Rubi wrote on Fri, 23 June 2006 20:44 The omeaga drivers are AWESOME! If anyone is wondering if you should use them or not, use them! My rengade doubled the fps and my bf2 went from playing medium graphics to everythin high. Im using a raderon X1300 and its like a whole new card. I agree to this, their great drivers. Soemtimes i get mine up to 100fps ingame but thats with hardilly any movement, and i have PCI which is the worst graphical interface ever! And two monitors with action on both of them.
creator: Zion
date: 2006-06-23T23:30:31-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I have Intel Graphics media accelerator, and I wonder if this will work with it, maybe I will give it a try.
creator: terminator 101
date: 2006-06-24T02:57:07-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: It likes to crash Renguard. :-\ If the files are installed, running the game crashes RG. If I have the files out of the folder, the game and RG runs just fine.
creator: z310
date: 2006-06-24T18:18:13-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: if you have xfire go to options and disable in-game support for renegade, because renguard bumps renegade to game2.exe, xfire tries to interface with renguard. For some reason it only causes crashes with this patch on... wierd
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-24T19:06:56-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 24 June 2006 14:06 if you have xfire go to options and disable in-game support for renegade, because renguard bumps renegade to game2.exe, xfire tries to interface with renguard. For some reason it only causes crashes with this patch on... wierd Or just point XFire at game2.exe (and tell it to use the right renderer or else you'll still get a crash).
creator: =HT=T-Bird
date: 2006-06-24T19:10:48-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: please tell me this is working on laptops with ati chipsets, please
creator: unknownLogan
date: 2006-06-24T21:11:44-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: =HT=T-Bird wrote on Sat, 24 June 2006 20:10 danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 24 June 2006 14:06 if you have xfire go to options and disable in-game support for renegade, because renguard bumps renegade to game2.exe, xfire tries to interface with renguard. For some reason it only causes crashes with this patch on... wierd Or just point XFire at game2.exe (and tell it to use the right renderer or else you'll still get a crash). yeah, but you would have to do that every single time the program updates... it's annoying
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-24T21:17:52-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: I don't use Xfire much anymore, but if I remember right it doesn't update that often. Or have they been doing updates more often now?
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2006-06-24T22:07:28-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: usually updates once a month or so
creator: danpaul88
date: 2006-06-24T22:26:05-00:00

Re: Increase Renegades performance.
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description: danpaul88 wrote on Sat, 24 June 2006 15:06 if you have xfire go to options and disable in-game support for renegade, because renguard bumps renegade to game2.exe, xfire tries to interface with renguard. For some reason it only causes crashes with this patch on... wierd Tyvm.
creator: z310
date: 2006-06-24T23:05:06-00:00