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WOL -> XWIS Transition Complete **ANNOUNCEMENT**
It's official! Renegade players are now directed to the XWIS service instead of Westwood Online. Just remember that you don't have to do anything different to connect to XWIS. Just select the "Westwood Online" option in your Renegade client and connect as always. Along with this transition, I am very happy to announce that Blackhand Studios has partnered with Strike Team to support the Renegade XWIS server. As part of this partnership, BHS will be equipped to handle several types of support issues, as well as communicating more effectively with the community through the MOTD seen when players log in. We are very confident that this transition will turn out to be a great thing for Renegade. We will keep the Renegade Wiki updated with information and answers to your questions as they arise. In closing, I want to extend a HUGE thanks to the following people who made this all possible: Olaf and DonCarlo at Strike-Team, Apoc and Pete L. at EA, and Scorpio9a who worked with Olaf to get the NAT bug fixed. Happy gaming!
Re: WOL -> XWIS Transition Complete **ANNOUNCEMENT**
Fuck yes. I hope to hell we can set up motd's and such now and post some real news for people to see at login, but make it all big and flashy so they break the habit of skipping over it
Yay!
Then maybe BHS CAN help me with my problem! (see below) trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 13 November 2005 20:02 trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 13 November 2005 11:34 HUGE PROBELM NOW! Ok, so I logged on to my trooprm02 account, everything worked fine,(I got a list of servers etc), BUT then I let my bro go on his trooprmJR account, and it said "serial has been marked invalid!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So I switch back, and I'm unable to login on my trooprm02 account! ^READ CAREFULLY First off, my bro just started playing renegade yesterday (online anyway), and I was there and he didn't cheat! The other thing, My account worked (NOTE: WE HAVE THE SAME SERIAL!), so it is oviusly not a cheating probelm I really need Blazers or Crimsons help because I'm sure many people have talked to them about a similiar problem. Oh and its not cheating because the guy said some regulars, that means he knows them and they don't cheat! So other people are having the problem, the only question is how to fix it! Then blazer sia BHS can't help becuase your not affiliated... WAIT! YES YOU CAN! Check to see wiether "trooprmJR" logged into renguard 2 days ago from the date of this post! If you could provide this info to me, that could clear up any issue for XWIS to say that me/my bro were cheating!
Not yet. We are still waiting to get our "tools".
The problem where you have to set the server port to zero has returned, presumably they will be implementing the fix they used on the xwis setup we have been using recently ? *Edit, I forgot to say that I echo Crimsons comments and would also like to thank the Strike team and BHS, I really do think this will be great for the game. All of us from the Jelly server are very greatful for all the effort everyone concerned has put into this.
I have a question. Now that Xwis is in control of WOL. Is is possible for them to release patches for it, Like the _1037 Patch but a new patch that is downloaded before logging into WOL. Maybe a patch with several new maps.
Buckery wrote on Mon, 14 November 2005 18:52 Maybe a patch with several new maps. Download the maps you want yourself, don't force others to get maps that they won't use. Side note: When I lodged in to WOL i get a server list with about 30 server, then i use XWIS tool and connect to get about 60 different servers, y is that?
The xwis server listings we have been using over the past week or so are not the game list that have been setup as the WOL replacement by the looks of it, people dont know the swapover is complete and are still using the other server listing.
OK i understand now ty, and I think XWIS needs to page all players and server to tell them about this change and redirect everyone to the new WOL
I'm clearly not forcing people to download maps they dont want or need. I downloaded most of the maps. Its not that i'm lazy and dont want to download them!. I just thought it might be better that way than all servers could include more maps on there rotation. This is just an idea i came up with, Not a demand.
*says to self* please god dont let crimson/bhs requir rengaurd to connect to xwis :)*end*
Glad to hear this all turned out well. It seemed like a lot of people weren't confident about it at first.
icedog90 wrote on Mon, 14 November 2005 21:08 Glad to hear this all turned out well. It seemed like a lot of people weren't confident about it at first. Well I'm still not confident about it. I got 3 names i use on a server deleted by XWIS. Also there are a bunch of people that started threads about deleted nicks and invalid serials on XWIS forum. Once that is fixed for all users, then I'll be more confident about the change.
I am yet to gain confidence, but so long as it runs, and i'm not forced to install any 3rd party software to play, my confidence will rise.
*hopes Xwis will oblife people to use RG to play but thinks it won't happen because of a very small amount of people* Great news! I'm sure this can only be a good thing for Renegade. Way to go Xwis and BHS! Renegade is alive and kicking HARD again!
Goztow wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 20:46 *hopes Xwis will oblife people to use RG to play but thinks it won't happen because of a very small amount of people* If it happens, you can effectively kiss Renegade goodbye, not enough people use RG to sustain the community.
Forcing people to use a 3rd party program is something which shouldn't be enforcing. It's like saying; heres my virus, download it or you can't play. Now I'm not saying RG is full of virii because we all know it isn't, but the fact that forcing people to download something they shouldn't need is unethical. But hey. Everyone to their own opinion *can feel some long ass replys coming on*
Great news! I think... edit: Hmm...can't join any server...I don't get the player names there and obviously can't push start
Wow, why 3 Server list's to pick off again, I thought Olaf said it would be one server list. What's the point of 3 server lists? Imo I think the Euro public player level is lower then the USA servers, When I was playing on the XWIS before this. Euro and USA people would play toghter in 1 serv..alot better.
Yeah, make it one server. Way better than three....
JPNOD wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 08:40 Wow, why 3 Server list's to pick off again, I thought Olaf said it would be one server list. What's the point of 3 server lists? Have you actually tried the three different options?
1 > 3 indeed... Quote: We will keep the Renegade Wiki updated with information and answers to your questions as they arise. You could start by saying it's been transferred already But I know you're busy
THERE ARE NO PLANS TO REQUIRE RENGUARD USAGE TO LOG INTO XWIS! Why do you guys do this to yourselves? No one from BHS has ever said we would require it, and yet you guys THINK we're going to do that, then start expressing your opinions about why we shouldn't... when we never said we would in the first place! I am updating the wiki now. I had jury duty yesterday which took up my entire day. Now I can catch up.
Olaf van der Spek wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 09:09 JPNOD wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 08:40 Wow, why 3 Server list's to pick off again, I thought Olaf said it would be one server list. What's the point of 3 server lists? Have you actually tried the three different options? my bad, no I was kinda in a rush but suprised and happy at the same time, I do understand it now LoL. Well done.
Well that doesn't help me until I find my cd-key! I have CDs but no key to play with unless I keygen it because I threw away the slip with the key
Luigi30 wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 09:46 Well that doesn't help me until I find my cd-key! I have CDs but no key to play with unless I keygen it because I threw away the slip with the key Buy the First Decade when it comes out.
What was that again crimson? I couldn't quite hear it. lol My only comment is, the last few months logging into wol has been a terrible nightmare for my house. Xwis is lightning-fast and the connection seems very strong and stable. TYVM to all responsible for this change and keep up the good work.
What about the clans? The clan registration page is still the one for the old xwis setup. Will this one be reset too soon?
If you still need a serial key message me back and I'll send you one you can use. I have a few extra from E-bay auctions. :/
Crimson wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 10:15 THERE ARE NO PLANS TO REQUIRE RENGUARD USAGE TO LOG INTO XWIS! Why do you guys do this to yourselves? No one from BHS has ever said we would require it, and yet you guys THINK we're going to do that, then start expressing your opinions about why we shouldn't... when we never said we would in the first place! I am updating the wiki now. I had jury duty yesterday which took up my entire day. Now I can catch up. thats to bad I personally think it should be
Enforcing RenGuard is up to individual server owners.
I tried out XWIS today... it logged in practically instantly, which was nice. I went to try out a server, and before I knew it I was in a big game for an hour...
Goztow wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 12:16 What about the clans? The clan registration page is still the one for the old xwis setup. Will this one be reset too soon? just create a clan on clanwars.cc.
JPNOD wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 17:57 Goztow wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 12:16 What about the clans? The clan registration page is still the one for the old xwis setup. Will this one be reset too soon? just create a clan on clanwars.cc. I would just like to have a renegade-clan so our members feel "related". A clanwars.cc - clan is for max 10 players if i'm right and you need to report a CW every X weeks ofcourse. We have more members but not all CW all that often. I just want some kind of link between us, as if we would put a tag before our name (like Soq has, for exemple). So my question remains .
luv2pb wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 13:06 Crimson wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 10:15 THERE ARE NO PLANS TO REQUIRE RENGUARD USAGE TO LOG INTO XWIS! thats to bad I personally think it should be And for those of us for whom the norton/renguard fixes simply don't work?
You simply wait a couple more weeks for RenGuard 1.04 which will be protected by a completely different app that Norton doesn't appear to have a problem with.
Spoony wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 21:26 luv2pb wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 13:06 Crimson wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 10:15 THERE ARE NO PLANS TO REQUIRE RENGUARD USAGE TO LOG INTO XWIS! thats to bad I personally think it should be And for those of us for whom the norton/renguard fixes simply don't work? I tell norton to skip it and ignore it. But since I ran live update last it hasn't even come up for me.
Spoony wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 21:26 luv2pb wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 13:06 Crimson wrote on Tue, 15 November 2005 10:15 THERE ARE NO PLANS TO REQUIRE RENGUARD USAGE TO LOG INTO XWIS! thats to bad I personally think it should be And for those of us for whom the norton/renguard fixes simply don't work? Simple: Get an Anti-Virus program that's worth a shit.
I'm quite angry at XWIS At times it says my serial is invalid (I use the original), and at times it doesn't Today it did, yesterdat it didn't, I even went to the strike-team forums, posted my SID, and of course.no response And BHS won't help me either.....
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 15:23 I'm and of course.no response There are ten replies in your topic. So don't make things up.
Olaf van der Spek wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 21:16 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 15:23 I'm and of course.no response There are ten replies in your topic. So don't make things up. Did you read inside the topic? Did I get any helpful info or even a suggestion? NO
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:35 Olaf van der Spek wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 21:16 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 15:23 I'm and of course.no response There are ten replies in your topic. So don't make things up. Did you read inside the topic? Did I get any helpful info or even a suggestion? NO Yes. Yes. And if you mean something else (then you say), say that instead.
Ok sorry if you took any offence to anything I said, I'm just frustrated about this serial marked invalid thing. It seems alot of people (not just me) are getting this error for no reson And so far I have been unable to figuire out why.
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 15:23 I'm quite angry at XWIS At times it says my serial is invalid (I use the original), and at times it doesn't Today it did, yesterdat it didn't, I even went to the strike-team forums, posted my SID, and of course.no response And BHS won't help me either..... BHS has no ability to help with serial issues.
Ok thanks, But for future reference, what can BHS help me with? (other than renguard)
At the moment, nothing regarding XWIS, as we do not yet have any access. I would direct any XWIS technical problems to strike-team until further notice.
trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:41 It seems alot of people (not just me) are getting this error for no reson For no reason? You didn't find the cause yet. And I haven't seen reports from that many people.
Olaf van der Spek wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 03:44 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:41 It seems alot of people (not just me) are getting this error for no reson For no reason? You didn't find the cause yet. And I haven't seen reports from that many people. If you read over quiet a few threads on this forum, you will see alot of people having the exact same problem as me
trooprm02 wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 15:07 Olaf van der Spek wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 03:44 trooprm02 wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 17:41 It seems alot of people (not just me) are getting this error for no reson For no reason? You didn't find the cause yet. And I haven't seen reports from that many people. If you read over quiet a few threads on this forum, you will see alot of people having the exact same problem as me I can't find any of those threads.
Lol, try readint this: http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=17547&a mp;start=0&rid=19993
The last post is from before the redirection. What are you trying to proof with that thread?
Other people are having the same problem
Another Example: http://strike-team.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47751 That one really got me becuase I know djw1965 personnally http://strike-team.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=48037 I don't know the guy, but same problem
My guess is that someone else uses, the same serial.. With WOL if you would play with 2 diff IP one SN= possible. And with 3ip's 1 SN= not possible.
I'm playing with 1 serial, 2 IP's so it shouldn't be a problem but it is
trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 13:10 I'm playing with 1 serial, 2 IP's so it shouldn't be a problem but it is Nope, I think XWIS uses a different policy.
installed renegade this morning and logged on i was impressed to see a GREEN ping .... omg.. so long since i saw that colour but it was 93 hope to see some 10-30's soon nice work guys hope this goes well
Yeah, but all the MP servers have 996 ping, heh heh. The ones I get, anyway.
trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 11:03 Another Example: He gave up without finding the cause. The other didn't respond yet.
JPNOD wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 12:13 trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 13:10 I'm playing with 1 serial, 2 IP's so it shouldn't be a problem but it is Nope, I think XWIS uses a different policy. Is it? How is it different?
Lijitsu wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 13:55 Yeah, but all the MP servers have 996 ping, heh heh. The ones I get, anyway. uhuh, I hope you don't mean IN the game, outside when you look at the server list there is alot more with 999 ping. That doesn't mean the actualy ping is 999 it's just the the server will most likely have a dedicated firewall which blocks incomming ICMP. @trooper no im not 100% sure, but on the strike team forum I read something about the WOL transition and it said it would take the serial data base from EA and it would not alow people to use more people on a serial. I can't find it right now but I'm sure I read something simmilair like this. I like the mod when you login btw, it will really help I think. Maybe some basic rules too?
Thanks, I have stil been unable to resolve my issue with the XWIS serial marked invalid problem
Ma1kel wrote on Tue, 22 November 2005 13:39 Try re-installing, worked for me. And using the same serial as before? Ok, so I would: 1.Install with my serial 2.update to 1.037 3.Install renguard 4.apply the no-cd crack and it should work? another thing, xwis says that we don't need that tool anymore, well if I don't manually set it to xwis, it won't connect for me...
trooprm02 wrote on Tue, 22 November 2005 17:35 Ok, so I would: 1.Install with my serial 2.update to 1.037 No, you would try before you did 3.
Also, you install the no cd crack after the 1.037 patch, before rengaurd.
If you know what you are doing, you don't have to.
mision08 wrote on Tue, 22 November 2005 19:39 Also, you install the no cd crack after the 1.037 patch, before rengaurd. What? I have ALWAYS installed the no-cd crack first, I remeber long ago I did it differently and renguard wouldn't start up...
If you do the no-cd fix before you patch, it will just patch over it and it won't work.
Oh yaaaaaaaaaa , ok renguard first
No, Rengaurd is not first. Renegade is first, Rengaurd falls near the bottom. This is the last part of my read me file I use after I jack up Windows. 7. reinstall 1.037 patch 8. reinstall no_cd_crack 9. Install Rengaurd 10. install CP1 11. Restart Computer 12. run the configuration for renegade, then the extended configuration in the patch folder. 13. move your wave files back to the data folder. 14. Start the game, bypass the registration and go to Westwood on-line, login mision08 15. reset q is laser. 16. alt tab to desktop and allow renegade to bypass firewall. 17. replace the lucidia font with the following arial text in the stylemgr configuration settings in the data folder. FONT_INGAME_TXT=Arial MT, 8, 0 FONT_INGAME_BIG_TXT=Arial MT, 16, 0 FONT_INGAME_SUBTITLE_TXT=Arial MT, 14, 0 FONT_INGAME_HEADER_TXT=Arial MT, 9, 1
This no-cd patch can be installed if RG is already installed: http://www.thekoss2.org/uploads/[REN]Tool-No_CD_patch_easy_to_use.zip
But be careful, as when RG is installed it replaces game.exe (which is what nocd patches try to patch).
So a person would need to place the game application on the desktop. Change the game2 application to game, install the no cd crack. Change the the application back to game2 and drop the original back into the folder?
yes, that should work or a no-cd crack creator could just make it patch game2.exe
Nightma12 wrote on Sun, 27 November 2005 11:16 yes, that should work or a no-cd crack creator could just make it patch game2.exe See my link 3 posts above.
Thanks Goztow, I'll keep it handy for future use.
mision08 wrote on Sat, 26 November 2005 15:51 No, Rengaurd is not first. Renegade is first, Rengaurd falls near the bottom. This is the last part of my read me file I use after I jack up Windows. 7. reinstall 1.037 patch 8. reinstall no_cd_crack 9. Install Rengaurd 10. install CP1 11. Restart Computer 12. run the configuration for renegade, then the extended configuration in the patch folder. 13. move your wave files back to the data folder. 14. Start the game, bypass the registration and go to Westwood on-line, login mision08 15. reset q is laser. 16. alt tab to desktop and allow renegade to bypass firewall. 17. replace the lucidia font with the following arial text in the stylemgr configuration settings in the data folder. FONT_INGAME_TXT=Arial MT, 8, 0 FONT_INGAME_BIG_TXT=Arial MT, 16, 0 FONT_INGAME_SUBTITLE_TXT=Arial MT, 14, 0 FONT_INGAME_HEADER_TXT=Arial MT, 9, 1 I did not have to restart or chnage any settings manually and have gotten it wo work
I stop several services like anti-virus and anti-spam software before I install programs. Thats just how I do it. If you have a way that works for you, then knock yourself out. As for the lucidia text, it's butt ugly and hard to read. Again, this is just personal preference.
mision08 wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 19:18 I stop several services like anti-virus and anti-spam software before I install programs. I can't recommend doing that, what happens if you install a program with a virus, which your AV would usually block?