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Funny story this, i was playing on the AUG sniper server and i noticed IKAIKA was playing better then what he normally does, so i typed !rg ika and it came back that he was using RG, so i went on IRC and i typed !rglocate IKA and guess what i found... Yeah you got it he wasnt using RG so i PMed him saying why arent you using RG he said oh i am but my RG must of crashed.. Now i was thinking if he's RG really did crash then RG would of took him offline (because it does with me every single time). So after a chat with my mate we both agreed that it would have to be SSC, So i went back into his server and i checked for RG again and i got the same response so i did !rg evil and it came back that he was, so i rglocated him and you never guess what.. yeah same story.. so i typed "so IKA's and Evils rg have both crashed eh?" and all i got was dont worry Caveman is nub and some after shit, so he offers a ss so i say yeah go on then why not.. damn man that ss took FOREVER to be produced. I then told him to go on IRC and type !rglocate IKAIKA ( I did IKA but that doesnt matter at all) and he said that Brenbot 1.41 was saying he was, now i use the same bot and its saying it wasnt... so one of the bots must be lying right? we continued with the agueing and i just simple said give me a ss with Your bot saying that you are using it, I got this; http://www.frontlines-gaming.com/ikaikas/see.JPG Now thats not much to go on but it took FOREVER again for that.. so i said ok lets do this the easiet way, give me the IRC ill come on do the command see what it says and leave, he REFUSED point blank to give me it, he said, Its personal only i have it.. Now that is bollox because ive seen other displaying messages.. so he just couldnt accept that i found out.. I left the server.. ( i have no way of telling if he and/or evil are cheating) Here are the screenshots i took Have fun IKA
Don't you have to type the full name when you rglocate? EDIT: NVM! I see how you typed !rglocate Vis and it worked. Dunno how to delete my post.
Apperantly not. Examine the second picture. Someone said "!rglocate phan" and it gave a players name, that was significantly longer than "phan."
Lijitsu wrote on Fri, 11 November 2005 01:07 Apperantly not. Examine the second picture. Someone said "!rglocate phan" and it gave a players name, that was significantly longer than "phan." Yeah, I just noticed that. But thanks for showing me! I usually just use the rg locater on renguard.com.
Very intresting! I remember Crimson saying once that RG is only completely sure if it says he's in the channel after a RGlocate.
Well this is definitely at least interesting. Would like to hear from BHS as well as from IKA&evil...
I think mac would have to address this. I don't recognize either of those names as suspicious. It's possible that they were logged in to the master server that I had to restart sometime yesterday.
Gbull, Its not that i think IKAIKA cheats, its that why use the SSC and then completely lie about it. Crimson about the masters server thing, if that was the case why is it that his screenshot saying he was when i know for sure that he wasnt on the RG network, i checked via the site aswell.
BRenBot's !rglocate command is the BEST authority overall. That is the only place where the RenGuard master servers are specifically queried at that moment and asked about the status of that player. Even the website isn't 100%. Sometimes my MySQL replication data isn't up-to-date, though that happens less and less often as I get better at managing it. But as for why !rg <blah> said they were on RG when they weren't is something only mac can answer.
Crimson wrote on Fri, 11 November 2005 11:28 BRenBot's !rglocate command is the BEST authority overall. That is the only place where the RenGuard master servers are specifically queried at that moment and asked about the status of that player. Even the website isn't 100%. Sometimes my MySQL replication data isn't up-to-date, though that happens less and less often as I get better at managing it. But as for why !rg <blah> said they were on RG when they weren't is something only mac can answer. Ok, Thanks for the heads up. Mac i look forward to your reply
Ikaika (Aug), VisionKill (RT-E), and Evil_Redman (RT-E) are all excellent snipers. All are also from clans that emphasize "sniping" over AOW. I also know for a fact (as supported by other players and even the BHS staff) ... that Renguard is not foolproof and queries CAN be inaccurate. Why don't you just sit back and wait for this latest RG patch to come out (which claims to help maintain connection to the RG network better) and see if these problems get any better. I'm willing to bet they do. I cannot speak for Ikaika and say he does not cheat because only Ikaika would know that. BUT I CAN say that he has always been an excellent sniper since the early Ren days. And I will speak on behalf of the RTE members (since we are in the same clan) and say that they do not cheat. I play with them day in and day out -- got to know each of them personally - and have seen their performance on multiple servers. And I've seen them at their worst. I hope this clears up a lot of questions... /r Sean aka "fl00d3d"
Flooded, I am not saying RTE or AUG cheats i know VK is a brill sniper, i know IKA CAN be a great sniper but i think its weird that VK and Phan were using RG and Evil and IKA were on the same server at the same time and there is no trace they were connected to RG network.. I have personally tested the SSC to see how foolproof and every single time i joined my own test server with SSC on it wouldnt say i was on the RG network, If your on the RG network while your name is in that list it will say XXX is connected to RG and is idle.. << that will happen EVERY single time.. in this case IKA nor Evil were found at all on the network, that only leaves one explaination.. Which is his name was in the list and he WASNT running RG at that time IKA was saying he had no idea what i was on about and now he is a Renegade hoster he would of read the help files and it WOULD know there is a file to make RG be ignored. Im just finished here.
Ika and evil were both on n00bsvr01 last night with RG, and other than the constant vibrating back and forth, even when they were just running around, nothing seemed that suspicious. Ika left after he got killed a couple times. Not exactly the excellent sniper you make him out to be
Renx wrote on Fri, 11 November 2005 14:14 Ika and evil were both on n00bsvr01 last night with RG, and other than the constant vibrating back and forth, even when they were just running around, nothing seemed that suspicious. Ika left after he got killed a couple times. Not exactly the excellent sniper you make him out to be Ok you just said he was using RG and playing on n00bserv1 (I dont know whihc server that is but anyhoo), and you just said he wasnt a great sniper, then that would answer why on his server he is.
the n00bstories.com one, I just call it n00bsvr01 because that was its name on WOL for like two years
Ahhh ok i see why, its WOL, I dont play on WOL.. Still waiting for Mac to clear this up if thats possible.
lol dude i did a search and it found me so i dont know what u did or what but here is the ss u asked for when u did what u did and i searched. btw u are a lieing idiot. like i said no1 has access to my irc and for you to say u have seen some1 posting msgs ingame from irc other then me or my girlfriend you are absolutly lieng. also if you read the bot msg you will also see that it was another bot for my AOW server that was saying i was on the network, and i felt no reason to post the ss for the sniper bot becasue they were both saying the same thing. I have 2 bots 1 is for a sniper server and the other is for the AOW server. they both run properly and there is alot of ppl out there that will tell u that i dont cheat dont need to cheat. i will leave that up to ppl like u have have used them. and yes u have told me i used them for testing. LMAO like i really would beleave that. when i ran RTE and AUG and HFS and other clans no1 could even use them in anyway. so FUCK YOU and your dictored ss dont know how you didnt it but feel free to rg me anytime.
Crimson wrote on Fri, 11 November 2005 11:28 That (BRenbot) is the only place where the RenGuard master servers are specifically queried at that moment and asked about the status of that player. Correction... BRenbot's the only publicly available place that the RG master servers are specifically queried.
You misinterpret me. I was referring to all the places that could be queried at that particular moment in that particular game. Quit being so defensive.
btw dude y is it that all the players u search for say not found then say where they are and mine is cut off. it always stats where they are like vision's. But yet u cut mine off. seems to me like u are trying to make it like what u want and not what it really is. next time post all the lines after so i can see that it does not say i am where i am like Vis LOOK so you ss's not not complete. also y is it that it will only find 1 name and not the othe names along with it. Cause if i type in evil it will bring up more then 1 name. so i dont know what bot u use and how u have urs set up.
What the hell do you mean it was cut off.... I have BrenBot 1.41 and i checked via the damn site.. If you look on the second screenshot it will show you multiple times of me trying to do !rglocate ika or IKAIKA or IKA.. and it goes the same with Evil.. It searchs the network for anyone that has evil in there name and at the moment in time THERE WAS NO EVIL.. The same applies to YOU! Please explain why that my bot and the site were saying there was no IKAIKA on the network and yours was?? Are you going to say the site wasnt configured properly?? eh? If you have 2 bots in one channel then every command you do its going to reply with it twice, I dont remember saying the sniper bots reply.
Crimson wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 18:26 You misinterpret me. I was referring to all the places that could be queried at that particular moment in that particular game. Quit being so defensive. I did misinterpret you. But you seemed to have misinterpreted me as well, as I was in no way being defensive.
Maybe it has to have something to do with the Servid Side buffer overrun some persons were having yesterday? I got it in-game, it closed RenGuard but not my game itself.
Ma1kel wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 08:13 Maybe it has to have something to do with the Servid Side buffer overrun some persons were having yesterday? I got it in-game, it closed RenGuard but not my game itself. If that was the case RG would of reported on the locator he was still connected to the network, Ive already tried all the excuses that people could think of, and theres no way he doesnt know what im on about!!! He knows what he has done, I'm not saying its against any rules and whatnot but i dont see a reason why he would use it!
LOL ignore list, clearly .
Goztow wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 09:03 LOL ignore list, clearly . I know but he is refusing POINT blank!!!
caveman wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 08:43 Ma1kel wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 08:13 Maybe it has to have something to do with the Servid Side buffer overrun some persons were having yesterday? I got it in-game, it closed RenGuard but not my game itself. If that was the case RG would of reported on the locator he was still connected to the network Actually no. If your RG client crashes while you're in game, you LEAVE the RG network. The RG Client is required to stay connected to the network. Therefore if your client is no longer there, neither is your connection.
OK i think i know what the hell u are talking about now cave man. it came to me at work today. there is a file that a person can make for brenbot for ignore. but here is the thing, it is so that the person that is on the list can not be forced to use renguardon that server it will ignore the request also it will let the person join a pure server without renguard. it still has nothing to do with wether i am running it or not. if u are running rg and your name is on the ignore list it will still state that u are using it in that server u rg the person. and it will also tell u if they are not running it, and if u are not running it and on the ignore list for the server u can not force rg on them. that is how it works i remember seeing that a long time ago. and the client that i run on my computer has nothing to do with the server so when i am connected it does not matter if i was on a ignore list because i still show in the rg servers. LMAO dude u should read more carefully because i really dont think that i have access to the main rg server to put my name on a ignore list and i dont think they would let me do that. also read what the other ppl are telling u about the look ups.
ikaika wrote on Thu, 17 November 2005 18:28 OK i think i know what the hell u are talking about now cave man. it came to me at work today. there is a file that a person can make for brenbot for ignore. but here is the thing, it is so that the person that is on the list can not be forced to use renguardon that server it will ignore the request also it will let the person join a pure server without renguard. it still has nothing to do with wether i am running it or not. if u are running rg and your name is on the ignore list it will still state that u are using it in that server u rg the person. and it will also tell u if they are not running it, and if u are not running it and on the ignore list for the server u can not force rg on them. that is how it works i remember seeing that a long time ago. You worked that out all by yourself, without any hints? Not even... reading the thread?
I didnt say you had the file on any other servers, I am CLEARLY saying you had the file on the AUG Sniper Warz server which if i do remember right its YOURS anyways. Ika you cant get out of it, just bloody admit it ffs.
dude i dont cheat and u know it ur just a loser. y dont u admit it. dude cant u figure it out man the file would not block the client side of the fucking program. if the damn thing is running on my comp it is running it is plain as that. the server can not and will not block the client in anyway from showing on the rg network dude you are plainly a fucking idiot who can not take it that ppl are better then u in the game. you clearly dont understand client side and server side aspects. SONNY your are just a dumb ass i mean really. cant you see that i have been posting in the forums. LOL FUCKING TARD. i'm sorry i dont keep up with ways to cheat cause i really see no need to cheat in a game. i just play the game. maybe you 2 need to keep up with it cause you guys think that ppl who are better then you cheat. i mean really wtf get some skills. and stop crying when ppl kill you. BTW it is really easy to take a ss of ren then cut it out and paste it on irc when u rg some1 who is not on the netwrok anyway. the ss's are really nothing. i mean hell it dont show the dates and time of the ss's for all i know he could have takin the ss when i was ingame for renegade then taking a ss in irc when i was not playing and out it together. but caveman really man you are a fucking idiot and i am done with you. there is nothing further to discuss with you. this was entertaining. there is 2 many ppl who will tell you that i dont cheat.
IKA I completely understand it, You have/had the ssc_ignore.txt in your damn SERVER which made the server ignore you from not running RenGuard HENCE why whwn i typed !rg IKA it came back that you WAS and when i checked via the damn SITE and via IRC YOU yes YOU was NOT found on the network the same goes for Evil.. I personally dont give two fucks weather someone is better then me at the game because there is someone always better then you.. Im a AOW person the only fucking reason i joined a sniper server was because i dont play on MP AOW's servers and your sniper server was the only server that had some people on. IKA i didnt have anything against you or Evil so why the hell would i join your server and start making shit up, im abit old for playing CHILDISH games like what you are doing!!!
dude the server can not block the client from showing on the rg network and yes you do give a fuck you little tard. and you should read more the ppl even tell you that rg has it's prob with the locater. and like i told you i used my aow bot to rg myself and y is it that the aow bot seem to fund me on my sniper server. seems to me like yo took the 2 ss's at diffrent times and put them together. because if it was as u say my aow bot would have said the samething as yours but it didnt. when i was playing it found me and evil. so the only way yours didnt is cause you did the irc ss's clearly when we were not ingame. besides you said all that when we were in the same game evil and me and ur ss's dont show that and also remebering the time u did it we were both ingame at the same time but the ss's dont show it so wtf is that. u say u did these things but to me and evil in the same game but it does not show so clearly you did the rg after we had left the game cause it was clearly not the same time. as you say it was.
ikaika wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 05:55 SONNY your are just a dumb ass i mean really. cant you see that i have been posting in the forums. LOL FUCKING TARD. i'm sorry i dont keep up with ways to cheat cause i really see no need to cheat in a game. i just play the game. maybe you 2 need to keep up with it cause you guys think that ppl who are better then you cheat. i mean really wtf get some skills. and stop crying when ppl kill you. OK champ. Start playing someone better than random public server guys (because getting a high kill ratio in a public server is soooo hard ), get some clanwars cups and come back to me.
lol yeah yeah what ever u say champ real tough guy!! LOL
ikaika wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 06:45 lol yeah yeah what ever u say champ real tough guy!! LOL Dude, I can kick your ass in Renegade and I haven't played in three months.
ikaika wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 06:45 lol yeah yeah what ever u say champ real tough guy!! LOL I don't know what I was thinking... you're in RT-E, right? So winning a clanwar against anyone decent is out of the window. I recall beating you 2v4 with GW.
LMAO no i am not RTE LMAO real tough guys
and cave i think u dont know what u are talking about cause for 1 the client that runs on my comp reports to the rg net work so no matter what server i am in it will tell the rg network where i am, that is ofcourse the locator is working properly. so if there is a ignore file it will not stop my rg on my comp from reporting to the network. the ignore file is just so u can not force rg on the person in the server. so explain to me how that works again. cause if u read the posts ppl have told u. they are still perfecting the db to rg. and if u look into it caveman rg connects to the rg network not the server u are joining. lmao dude what a fucking idiot
caveman: you're a fucking idiot Spoony: you're a fucking idiot Lijitsu: you're a fucking idiot now shut up and play the game ...
As i said on MSN IKA if thats what you wonna believe then sure if you say so, according to the site and my bot you wasnt found on the network.
so what are u saying i was not running rg cause i was not found on the network or are u saying i use a file. dude u dont even know wtf u are saying. what does the client have to do with the server when the client reports to the rg network directly, and like i said the file is so ppl can not forcerg that player on the list. dude get it through your head man. read the posts from the ppl who know what they are talking about rg. dude plain and simple u dont understand what u are talking about. i mean really man read what ppl say here u fuck tard Crimson wrote on Fri, 11 November 2005 12:28 BRenBot's !rglocate command is the BEST authority overall. That is the only place where the RenGuard master servers are specifically queried at that moment and asked about the status of that player. Even the website isn't 100%. Sometimes my MySQL replication data isn't up-to-date, though that happens less and less often as I get better at managing it. But as for why !rg <blah> said they were on RG when they weren't is something only mac can answer.
Esaya1 wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 19:01 caveman: you're a fucking idiot Spoony: you're a fucking idiot Lijitsu: you're a fucking idiot now shut up and play the game ... No need to cry, just because your boyfriend is getting humiliated again...
Esaya1 wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 19:01 caveman: you're a fucking idiot Spoony: you're a fucking idiot Lijitsu: you're a fucking idiot now shut up and play the game ... About time someone got my damn name right. People have been calling me 'Jitsu' and shit like that all week. Hmm... No, I won't shut up, and no I'm not an idiot. Plus, I don't remember where it is that I came into this arguement, but I still believe you're mistaken. And no, Spoony isn't an idiot either. No comment on caveman.
Ok IKA ill show you.. Im going to get my server and put a name on the file take a screenshot and it will show im not found on the network even though my server is saying i am connected, then ill take the file out and do the fucking same and see what RG HAS to say then. Right now ive took them.. lets go!! Ok now try and tell me anything diff from that
ok ok so u showed me something new. but here is the really big thing. if the bot says i was using rg and i always do what does it matter if i was on the network or not. i was using rg. so tell me. are u saying i cheat. is that the whole point u are trying to make. that u think i cheat. i mean really u know more about cheats then i do. i just play the game. besides i hardly play my own server anyway cave lmao ur a fool for even thinking i would use a cheat.
ikaika wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 11:44 ok ok so u showed me something new. but here is the really big thing. if the bot says i was using rg and i always do what does it matter if i was on the network or not. i was using rg. so tell me. are u saying i cheat. is that the whole point u are trying to make. that u think i cheat. i mean really u know more about cheats then i do. i just play the game. besides i hardly play my own server anyway cave lmao ur a fool for even thinking i would use a cheat. I'd thought you would have nothing to say about that.. As i said on MSN i am NOT saying you was cheating.. you could of been having a good day or i could of been having a bad day.. But what ever it was made me check weather you was using RG or not and its fucking clear that you WAS NOT. Damn it ika all the proof there explains that what you was saying was WRONG you was not connected to the renguard server meaning you WAS NOT using RG at that moment in time.. Damnit cant you get that through your head? are you that fucking stupid or you just being a stubborn wanker?
u fucking tard if i was not using rg the bot would say no i am not but the bot clearly said i was. now argue that cause the bot say if i was or i was not. it clearly says i was. just cause it was not on the network at the time does not mean that it was not running. when u rg a person it looks to see if they have it. and if i dont have it the bot would say not running rg.
OMG read what you just said and then look at my second damn screenshot the bot was saying that i was and the locator said i wasnt and i had the file in the server.. that is exactly what was happeneing with you! ^^^ that is what your saying.. You just laid yourself init
Spoony wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 01:42 No need to cry, just because your boyfriend is getting humiliated again... ... yeah right
ok man lets make this so even you can understand 1 !rg ika = ika using rg 2 !rglocate ika = not found we understand this fact ika was using rg fact if ika was not using rg the bot would state that ika is not using rg. the point is i was using rg. fact i have no need to cheat have no desire to cheat and will not cheat. if i was not using rg and all of this happened then that would be all bad. but i use rg and will not play if rg is not working. so your point is what. i was not found on the rg network. lol since this whole thing has happen i have checked myself while in the unrules server and it said i was idle another time said i was not found. hmmmmmm so what does that tell you. does that tell u i have access to the un server and put a file there. lmao o wait i have access to the rg network right. lmao dude you are plainly a idiot for even accusing me of such shit. you have more knowledge about this sort of shit then i do. i dont even bother with shit like that but obviously you do. btw the file is not to block admins from forcing rg it is to stop the other players from what i remember.
ikaika wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 17:42 ok man lets make this so even you can understand 1 !rg ika = ika using rg 2 !rglocate ika = not found we understand this fact ika was using rg fact if ika was not using rg the bot would state that ika is not using rg. the point is i was using rg. fact i have no need to cheat have no desire to cheat and will not cheat. if i was not using rg and all of this happened then that would be all bad. but i use rg and will not play if rg is not working. so your point is what. i was not found on the rg network. lol since this whole thing has happen i have checked myself while in the unrules server and it said i was idle another time said i was not found. hmmmmmm so what does that tell you. does that tell u i have access to the un server and put a file there. lmao o wait i have access to the rg network right. lmao dude you are plainly a idiot for even accusing me of such shit. you have more knowledge about this sort of shit then i do. i dont even bother with shit like that but obviously you do. btw the file is not to block admins from forcing rg it is to stop the other players from what i remember. So your saying the RG network may have been down.. If thats the case please please explain why it was locating other players like VisionKill and myself.. And explain why that if you are still saying that from above, after reading my first paragraph, then why the hell was your bot *saying* that you was located on AUG when you did !rglocate but the site and my bot says otherwise!!!! w00t! Only one thing i can say EDITED SCREEN SHOT!
caveman wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 07:29 So your saying the RG network may have been down.. If thats the case please please explain why it was locating other players like VisionKill and myself.. And explain why that if you are still saying that from above, after reading my first paragraph, then why the hell was your bot *saying* that you was located on AUG when you did !rglocate but the site and my bot says otherwise!!!! w00t! Only one thing i can say EDITED SCREEN SHOT! You're not getting it are you? And besides he doesn't have to explain a thing to YOU! He is always using RG and if it's down he doesn't play. And WE really don't know what is wrong with YOUR bot... Please stop wasting your energy on that - it's pointless! Why don't you see that? Thank you, have a nice day! Esaya1
See now there was something wrong with my bot and the site at the same time.. kk if you say so.
tell u what man i can not tell u y mot aow bot said i was there and ur bot said i was not found. but either way dude i use rg 100% of the time if the fucking thing does not work i do not play this fucking game cause no0bs such as yourself have to attack me. but either way dude i dont take the time to make ss's cause i dont have anything to prove or put together like you i mean really man it is not hard to make a ss of a game then do a rglocate when u know some1 is not in a game. so what was that about doctored ss's. dude plz fuck off i dont cheat dont need to cheat and have no desire to do it. that would ruin the game for me and others. but hey i know u like that shit and u cant say no u dont cause u seem to know a hell of alot more about ways and types of cheats. i know what i see and hear about in lobbies. so caveman fuck you and what u are about here. lmao you obviously did the ss when i was not in game and took the ss's when i was. btw when u were doing all that me and evil were in the same game but yet the ss's dont show it. so hmmmm put 2 and 2 together what do i get nothing but bs and purely a set up. lmao dude nice try but not this time fuck tard.
Be quiet, all of you. Especially you, Spoony. I haven't seen anything useful come from you in this thread. We all know RenGuard has been having trouble since the 1.04 beta started. I've seen IKAIKA play and he's pretty good. It's entirely possible that he was playing extra well while RenGuard was having a spout of problems.
Kanezor wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 19:23 Especially you, Spoony. I haven't seen anything useful come from you in this thread. PWNT
IKAIKA.. Ok ill put this in the most easiest english you can read. I am not saying in any way you was CHEATING.. stop accusing me of accusing you of cheating. The first screen shot shows that you was in the game... Evil was not in game on that map.. Field is the map VisionK joined Now if you look on the second SS its clearly show it was like an hour later.. Dude i dont cheat, so i dont know what your chatting about in the lobby since i dont go on the lobby except to get the server's IP then i leave.. But anyways i will say this again, I am not saying you CHEAT. I am saying that you used your server to make RG ignore you. I dont see any diff from the first screen shot i took of you and the second screenshot i took of myself.
caveman wrote on Thu, 10 November 2005 23:52 Funny story this, i was playing on the AUG sniper server and i noticed IKAIKA was playing better then what he normally does, so i typed !rg ika and it came back that he was using RG, so i went on IRC and i typed !rglocate IKA and guess what i found... is a accusation. i mean really read it. anyway here is the point u said ur bot didn't see me and mine did, both of them did. the 1 for the sniper server and the ss i gave of u was the aow. besides u don't read what i post anyway. lol like u said doctored ss's yes i believe u have some. it is not hard to put together the ss's u have and made. so it is ur work against mine and to many ppl out there seem to think i am not that good and know i don't cheat and don't need to. so go on ur way with ur bs and take it up with some 1 who cares. i know i don't cheat don't need anyway to cheat and have no desire to do the things u say i do. u seem to know more about the whole thing then i do so ppl u tell me what is what. if he had to go through all that trouble to explain to me how it works then how could i do it. things that make u go Hmmmm.........
Dude.. your the most stubborn arsehole that ive ever meant and i have said many times.. When i typed Quote: caveman wrote on Thu, 10 November 2005 23:52 Funny story this, i was playing on the AUG sniper server and i noticed IKAIKA was playing better then what he normally does, so i typed !rg ika and it came back that he was using RG, so i went on IRC and i typed !rglocate IKA and guess what i found... I could of been having a bad day/game or you could of been having a good game.. I am not saying you were/are or do CHEAT.. read "you were/are or do CHEAT" is that simple enough for you? I am clearly accusing you of using your server as a adventage by using SSC... My ss's are real, i still have the orignal .tga file which is untouched.. <<< the same applies to the screenshots i posted, completey 100% untouched. If i were to say you was cheating i would say IKA Cheats, but no i'm saying IKA uses SSC on his server(s) simple as.
I was likr 3 years ago, but what has that gotta do with this?
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There's something I want to know If you say !rglocate IKA on the bot.. What if there's more than one person with 'IKA' at the start of the name? Will it return every player on the network with a name that begins with 'IKA', will it not return anyone, or will it return the first player it finds? Also if i'm to get this right. IF your name is on the ignore file for a server, the SERVER will say you are using renguard REGARDLESS of whether you are or not. Hence, you could be NOT using renguard, USING cheats, with your name on the ignore list for the server, and STILL have the server report that you are using renguard...BECAUSE you are on the ignore list. Is that right? If so that's something that should be looked at for the next version of RG...people who are friends with server owners could get away with cheating...maybe the server should report correctly about everyone, even if they're on the ignore list
flyingfox wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 17:07 If you say !rglocate IKA on the bot.. What if there's more than one person with 'IKA' at the start of the name? Will it return every player on the network with a name that begins with 'IKA', will it not return anyone, or will it return the first player it finds? It will return everyone who has "IKA" in their name.
flyingfox wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 17:07 There's something I want to know If you say !rglocate IKA on the bot.. What if there's more than one person with 'IKA' at the start of the name? Will it return every player on the network with a name that begins with 'IKA', will it not return anyone, or will it return the first player it finds? Also if i'm to get this right. IF your name is on the ignore file for a server, the SERVER will say you are using renguard REGARDLESS of whether you are or not. Hence, you could be NOT using renguard, USING cheats, with your name on the ignore list for the server, and STILL have the server report that you are using renguard...BECAUSE you are on the ignore list. Is that right? If so that's something that should be looked at for the next version of RG...people who are friends with server owners could get away with cheating...maybe the server should report correctly about everyone, even if they're on the ignore list It will reply with anyone with IKA within there name no matter if its IKAIKA or hello_im_ika_i_own.. And what your saying IS 100% correct and that is EXACTLY what im accusing IKAIKA of doing.. I will say that again IKA.. I am accusing you of abusing the Server Side of RENGUARD.. I am not saying you were cheating. Kthx
flyingfox wrote on Wed, 30 November 2005 18:07 If so that's something that should be looked at for the next version of RG...people who are friends with server owners could get away with cheating...maybe the server should report correctly about everyone, even if they're on the ignore list I think there should be an ignore list which could prevent a selected player from being forcerg'd, but it sure as hell shouldn't say they're using renguard when they're not, because let's face it... it's a direct lie
Amen to that
Interesting for sure...but I know both IKAIKA & VisionKill personally. IKA is patient/friend of mine & VK is one of my employees - I know the intention w/ this thread is not a character judgement/trial but I feel it is important to mention that I speak with these guys on a daily basis & although you never know, I seriously doubt there was any intentional circumvention going on...
SickOptometrist wrote on Thu, 01 December 2005 10:42 Interesting for sure...but I know both IKAIKA & VisionKill personally. IKA is patient/friend of mine & VK is one of my employees - I know the intention w/ this thread is not a character judgement/trial but I feel it is important to mention that I speak with these guys on a daily basis & although you never know, I seriously doubt there was any intentional circumvention going on... Well VisionKill at that time and everytime from what i see uses RenGuard.. I seriously dont have a problem with him, but I do with IKAIKA. I cant think of any other valid reason why he wasnt shown on reguard but VisionKill and myself were.
well i guess u said it cave u think i cheat that is y u have a problem once again fuck u and learn to play the fucking game then u wont have a reason to try stupid shit like this once again my bots said i was on rg and urs hmmm didnt bs doctor some more ss's of me please u little fucking tard. like i said it is not hard to produce suck ss's that u have done of me. i mean reall take a ss when i am playing then paste it on a irc screen when i am not playing. hmm really fucking hard to do cave really man. besides if u read what ppl have said wich i doubt that u have rg has it's probs. So doctor somemore ss's plz i beg you do it somemore lmao what a fucking joke.
Ohh so you're still going on about that 'Im accusing you off cheating' well thats ok, you can have your opinion, and my ss's are doctored.. when your are like 10x50 and mine are full screen.. SURE if you say so!!!!
Alright, let's get a few things straight here: (1) Ikaika has been owning people in sniper servers since LONG before the cheats even came out. He's a good sniper. End of story. Anyone that has been around since demo and has played in a quality clanwar can tell you the guy is not some n00b looking for a way around RenGuard. (2) RenGuard and every other mod tool out there has known problems with it. Especially the locator feature. NOT TO MENTION people *ALWAYS* (strong use of an absolute, I know) end up setting up their bots either (a) wrong -or- (b) inconsistant with another one of their servers or the way it was designed to be used. There is bound to be discrepancies here and there and ultimately all it ends up being is a judgement of character. If you're a no-name then I feel sorry for you because no one is going to stand up for you. But if you've been around long enough people will know you're good - and they will stand up for you. Like I am for Ikaika. (3) Caveman, whether you intended to accuse him of cheater or not, you did. You were exceptionally suggestive. And if you create a suggestive thread like that on a public forum -- you might as well come out an make a bold accusation. If you didn't intend on making him look like he's cheating (or using some method of deception) then you wouldn't have gone out of your way to post any of this. Now, I have no problem with you personally (or anyone here for that matter) --- BUT I do have a problem with with "oldschoolers" arguing in front of the n00bs about "who is more l33t". It's 110% insane to even argue about that this day and age. The competitive age of Renegade is dead. End of story. People clanwar, 1v1, etc ... whatever ... but saying someone is better than someone is an understatement. The game has been around long enough for n00bs to become elite and elite to lose their touch. It's also been out long enough for hackers/modders to figure out ways to cheat - and go around un-detected. You just never know anymore. UNLESS you have a vouch of character. This whole thread is really quite stupid, IMHO. If you have an issue with a person - address it with that person. And if you think they're cheating, come out and say it or ask someone on BHS to research it. Don't start flamewars that are just going to hurt a bunch of people's feelings and get them worked up. This community is still alive because there is some good left in it. Let's not forget that. Lets not ruin that. FINALLY -- I cannot remember who it was that went on a "RTE" bashing fest (suggesting they cannot win a clanwar) ... but (1) that has nothing to do with this thread (2) RTE has a long standing history of victories. The renegade division of RTE may not CURRENTLY be what it was a year or so ago, but for one to suggest that RTE is incapable of winning a clanwar is simply ignorant. I surely hope that was not the suggestion. I digess... I think that's all I need to say (lol).
Spoony wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 09:41 ikaika wrote on Fri, 18 November 2005 06:45 lol yeah yeah what ever u say champ real tough guy!! LOL I don't know what I was thinking... you're in RT-E, right? So winning a clanwar against anyone decent is out of the window. I recall beating you 2v4 with GW. Spoony with the big mouth as always u never can stick to topic cant you. Your so called GW .A.K.A 109thGW has been beaten by RTE when they were competetive in ren and as for now they just chill and play other games while u and rest of GW take the game to the heart . The topic is about ikaika and not a clan or what clan he was in i forgot ur known to be switching subjects. (Was in rte while playing wol with u /against u and still is ) So dont open ur mouth where it shouldnt be opened.
Pist0lH4x wrote on Fri, 16 December 2005 16:32 Spoony with the big mouth as always u never can stick to topic cant you. Your so called GW .A.K.A 109thGW has been beaten by RTE when they were competetive in ren and as for now they just chill and play other games while u and rest of GW take the game to the heart . The topic is about ikaika and not a clan or what clan he was in i forgot ur known to be switching subjects. (Was in rte while playing wol with u /against u and still is ) So dont open ur mouth where it shouldnt be opened. Whatever champ, the only time I played against RT-E was a 2v4 because two of our guys disconnected, we still beat them and they cried about it for hours in the lobby like a bunch of little queers
I've also been told (personally) by [someone in your clan] that half of the #GW clan has a bunch of whiny egotistical losers that will go out of their way to put people down and a bunch of selfish players that want to dictate others schedules. And apparently the problem is so bad that many of the members have considered splitting from the clan. Meanwhile, you have a group of individuals called RTE which takes the focus off of ego-driven individuals and competition ... and puts the spotlight on people that have proven to be honest, trustworthy, and do not need to be baby sat. We do not have a solid group of Renegade players anymore. And as for "winning a 2v4" ... any half-intelligent person that knows how this game works will ask "What was the situation?" ... "What map were you playing" ... etc etc. So don't make it seem like you're so l33t your "sh1t don't smell". I hate whiny brats like you - you bring this community down.
lol u played a game u got ur mind straight up . anyways im not gona even bother typing on this shit stick to the topic or make new 1 if u want this convo to go on . Fl00d stick to topic also bro.
hey fl00ded, I know that IKAIKA is a good sniper i've played many games against him, but for that game it was either I was playing crap or he could of been playing really good. (I am not saying he was cheating, you can finds ways to bypass RG but that doesnt mean you're cheating right?) My bot IS config'd properly, fl00ded you should know that you use to mod it. If people read this and choose to think that IKA was/has/is cheating then sorry but i cant do anything about that people has their own opinions. I tried contacting IKA via GSA and MSN but most of the time he'd either ignore me or just say some shit. Hence why i came here. If i thought someone was cheating i would be the first person to stick their hands up and say yeah he is cheating, but because i dont think he was cheating im not gonna do that. This thread has gone on way to long.
Agreed. And just for the record, if you bypass RenGuard it is the same as cheating (in my eyes).
fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 17 December 2005 11:44 I've also been told (personally) by [someone in your clan] that half of the #GW clan has a bunch of whiny egotistical losers that will go out of their way to put people down and a bunch of selfish players that want to dictate others schedules. And apparently the problem is so bad that many of the members have considered splitting from the clan. why do I get the feeling you're making this up as you go? fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 17 December 2005 11:44 Meanwhile, you have a group of individuals called RTE which takes the focus off of ego-driven individuals and competition ... and puts the spotlight on people that have proven to be honest, trustworthy, and do not need to be baby sat. So why is Ikaika in it? I remember him getting kicked from NoN00bs because he just wouldn't stop lag killing everyone, then he posted a bunch of crap about how "we can't handle getting owned by the best sniper in renegade"... sorry, but SBBO is not the same as actual skill. fl00d3d wrote on Sat, 17 December 2005 11:44 So don't make it seem like you're so l33t your "sh1t don't smell". Didn't say I was (unlike most of RT-E)... but good job trying to change the subject.
Quote: why do I get the feeling you're making this up as you go? I'm not making it up. What purpose would it serve for me to make something like that up? I hardly even play Ren that much anymore. Quote: So why is Ikaika in it? I remember him getting kicked from NoN00bs because he just wouldn't stop lag killing everyone, then he posted a bunch of crap about how "we can't handle getting owned by the best sniper in renegade"... sorry, but SBBO is not the same as actual skill. Ikaika is *NOT* in RTE. For any game. And I hate SBBO abusers the same as anyone else. Hopefully we can find a way to prevent that. I've spent abuot 3 years learning to snipe and have become a damn good sniper. And now everyone and their brother can use SBBO to become a threat. Not cool. Quote: Didn't say I was (unlike most of RT-E)... but good job trying to change the subject. I'm not trying to change the subject - I'm trying to drop it. I know you are a good player. But you know just as well as I do that there are a lot of good players out there. And that some l33t have lost their touch, while amatures have become pro. Let's just bury this topic already. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm not like that any more. (lol @ "any more")