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I was thinking today after recently loggin on renforums.com, "hmm wonder if any of those people smoke" So this I ask you renforums community, Do you smoke? (weed or otherwise)
DrasticDR wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 13:38 no, never. Same.
I am clean. I'm not smoking nor' drinking, or taking any drugs.
Nope. Won't drink either
Chronic only.
No, and I will give you a few reasons off the top of my head: 1. Smoking is a dirty, nasty habit. 2. Almost anything that is a "habit" is bad. 3. Nicotine is more addicting than crack. 4. Smoking is bad for you. 5. Even mindless animals are smart enough to run away from smoke...yet smokers gladly breathe it in...on purpose. 6. Smoking causes cancer. 7. Ever kiss a girl who smokes? It's like kissing an ashtray...yuck. 8. Cigarette smoke eventually turns everything it touches yellow...including your teeth 9. Everyone I have ever known who smoked, "wishes they could quit", and would "if they could". 10. There are easily a hundred more reasons....wtf are you smoking or even considering trying? This has been a public service announcement.
Cigars only on occasion. I also usually only smoke socially. I'm not a big smoker, and I won't touch cigarettes.
No, I don't actively engage in killing myself.
That's cool, that's cool. rofl at you're comment, Blazer. You're quite the activist I also never touch cigarettes, and I drink VERY seldom, only chronic for me too
Impotence is the constant inability of a man to maintain an erection for sexual purposes. It is estimated that impotence affects over 30 million men in the United States. Sexual functioning requires the coordination of several functions in the body. This includes the nervous system (mental stimulation) working in coordination with hormones, and the vascular system which pumps blood into the muscle tissue that maintains the erection. Smoking can affect all these systems, thereby, causing impotence.2 Many diseases caused by smoking involve blockage of the arteries, meaning that smoking inhibits the flow of blood throughout the body. Strokes and heart attacks are one result of severe blood flow blockage. Impotence is another result of arterial blockage. Long-term smoking causes more physiological damage. In a United States study2, healthy men who smoked, with no history of impotence, heart disease or diabetes, were interviewed twice over 8 years. The second interview revealed that although these men still had no heart disease or diabetes, they were twice as likely to experience moderate or severe impotence.4 A secondary study5 indicated that smoking is an independent risk factor contributing to impotence. After considering other risk factors, it was found that current smokers were twice as likely to experience impotence as non-smokers. Another independent study3 grouped impotentsmokers, according to how many cigarettes they smoked each day. The study concluded: heavy smokers (40+ cigarettes/day) had the "softest" night-time erections; smoking was related to an abnormal decline of blood pressure in the penis. http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/tobac-tabac/body-corps/disease- maladie/infertilit/index_e.html http://www.google.be/search?hl=nl&q=smoking%2Bimpotent&a mp;spell=1 Reason enough for me not to smoke... Besides that noone should really actively work on having BAD BREATH. I don't drink either but that's more a principals-thing.
I've done lots of things, but I don't smoke cigarettes.
Blazer wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 11:42 7. Ever kiss a girl who smokes? It's like kissing an ashtray...yuck. Just in case you were wondering, I don't smoke either. I did smoke about half a cigarette at a party at my house when I was like 18. My smoking friends essentially dared me to do it. I did it, didn't see the big deal, and they never bugged me again, nor did I ever smoke again. I find the smell repulsive at best. It usually gives me a headache and if it's bad enough my stomach cramps too. The first guy I kissed was a smoker and I can agree that it's like kissing an ash tray. Absolutely gross.
I've never smoked before. Even though i am 16, I have no intention of ever smoking. :} :} :} EDIT: I'll smoke anything
Yeah, I don't really do anything like that. Now that I'm at college it seems like almost everyone drinks, lots of people smoke cigarettes, and a good number of people smoke marijuana or do other drugs like painkillers or heroine. I am, however, an adrenaline junkie, racing with the cycling team, flying airplanes, skateboarding, etc.
I didn't know you skated. I don't smoke anything, and I never will. Same goes for drinking and drugs.
htmlgod wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 18:09 Yeah, I don't really do anything like that. Now that I'm at college it seems like almost everyone drinks, lots of people smoke cigarettes, and a good number of people smoke marijuana or do other drugs like painkillers or heroine. I am, however, an adrenaline junkie, racing with the cycling team, flying airplanes, skateboarding, etc. You know people who do heroin? That's pretty bad... coke is usually the worst drug I hear about at my university, not that it's much better, I suppose. Generally speaking, I feel addictive substances are a bad idea.
Used to when I was 13 but i quit when i was 15 yay for me!! (my parents found out!)
Never had a puff, nor do I intend to. If someone dared me to and there was a decent amount of money involved I would though.
don't smoke, do drink a little. Don't do drugs, but i know alot of people who do. i don't really give a shit about any of it though.
1. Smoking is a dirty, nasty habit. [check] 2. Almost anything that is a "habit" is bad. [No. Think about that statement for a second...] 3. Nicotine is more addicting than crack. [Don't know, but I'll take you're word for it.] 4. Smoking is bad for you. [check] 5. Even mindless animals are smart enough to run away from smoke...yet smokers gladly breathe it in...on purpose. [In Boston a chimp in Franklin Zoo got addicted to cigs from people throwing butts in. I know many people who have dogs who get and like getting high.] 6. Smoking causes cancer. [check] 7. Ever kiss a girl who smokes? It's like kissing an ashtray...yuck. [Check. I don't think it matters as long as she's had like a stick of gum or something, on a side note.] 8. Cigarette smoke eventually turns everything it touches yellow...including your teeth [Check. What you're describing is mostly just cigs though.] 9. Everyone I have ever known who smoked, "wishes they could quit", and would "if they could". [Yeah, I've heard that from every 3+ year cig smoker I know... kinda sad.] 10. There are easily a hundred more reasons....wtf are you smoking or even considering trying? [Note: this reason is not an actual reason.]
I don't smoke, I drink RARLEY, and I don't touch drugs.
I dont smoke or do drugs, and never will. I drink socially but i dont like getting drunk, not often at any rate. smoking is a discusting habit/addiction. i dont like being around when people start smoking, it can kick start my asthma which sucks, one time my asthma was so bad, i had to goto hospital and stay on a machine for 2 hours, all because i was around smokers. I often have people like this at stations as commute to university everyday. Its annoying passengers that smoke on platforms and escalators annoy me. To me, smoking is a slow, and can be a more painful way of committing suicide. People only do it to look cool, and once they have a few they get hooked. I dont find girls that smoke attractive, its a real turn down, just like when every second word someone says is the 'F' word. Smoking costs a person alot of money, a pack a day smoker is known to spend around 3000$ a year for cigarettes. Money that can go to MUCH better things. eg on your girlfriend, car, computer, investment, donating to BHS etc. everything goes brown and yellow after smoking for a long time, like your teeth as blazer said, also if people smoke inside, white or cream walls will turn a yellowy colour. Its hard to quit as some people say, and why would someone play with their life like that, all the health problems you get from it, its not worth it.
I generally drink like a fish on a night out. Now, don't misconceive that because I've never gotten into trouble, started a fight etc, while drunk... and I'll slit my own wrists before I drinkdrive. I smoke once in a blue moon, and I don't do drugs anymore, key word there is "anymore" because if I told you some of the stuff I used to do you probably wouldn't believe me.
Well, I do drink and get drunk from time to time, but I will NEVER smoke AT ALL. Though, I did take some pills and eat spacecake on every birthday I'm going to, but yeah, this is Holland, don't blame me!
Sitting in front of the computer getting radiation from this crappy monitor is bad enough for me, marijuana is for people who can't seem to handle problems themselves and thus the commit a slow, very stupid and blundering suicide, and smoking in general makes people smell fairly bad. =\
i don't smoke, drink, take drugs or something else like that. i think that it all suck and is only waste of time, health and money...
I don't smoke or drink alcohol, never did, nor do I ever want to. (Why do people say they drink alcohol (and/or get drunk) to have "fun", when alcohol is a depressant?)
I think a better question is why would you question the logic of a person doing something when you've already admitted you've never done it yourself, therefore having absolutely no frame of reference.
...don't smoke weeds...smoke tiberium...
Sir Phoenixx wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 11:26 I don't smoke or drink alcohol, never did, nor do I ever want to. (Why do people say they drink alcohol (and/or get drunk) to have "fun", when alcohol is a depressant?) Interesting because a few weeks ago when I drank, I was actually quite happy and having a good time. Not once did I feel depressed or filled with any sorrow, etc... that would be characteristic of a depressant.
Spoony wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:38 I think a better question is why would you question the logic of a person doing something when you've already admitted you've never done it yourself, therefore having absolutely no frame of reference. Frame of reference is a pretty relative term. I don't drink, smoke, or any of that jazz and I can say quite easily off the top of my head that the antecedent imperative to do any of those things in almost ANY case (there are obviously exceptions) is selfish. I don't know about you, but I try to limit how selfish I am, and if that involves consciously refusing to have "fun" or any facsimile thereof, I will. Besides, mind altering (I'm also fully aware that smoking cigarettes is not mind altering) is moronic. As for the depressant schpiel. A depressant is a biological agent that causes motor control and other mechanisms in the body to slow in their rate of activity. It has nothing to do with psycological "sadness", although prolonged exposure to such agents could induce it. Alcohol is a vasodialectic, and also a mild sedative. It slows the rate of oxygen being absorbed into cells, nerve cells, brain cells and so on because it's so easily absorbed. I don't particularily want to slow down my reflexes, ability to think clearly, or put my body in a state of homeostatic instability just to have a good time. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would.
Javaxcx wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:05 I don't particularily want to slow down my reflexes, ability to think clearly, or put my body in a state of homeostatic instability just to have a good time. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would. It's entertaining. You feel more relaxed and nothing can really bother you. Plus, it's fun to see how your slowed reaction time affects while playing video games. That's pretty much the reason why I drank 3 weeks ago, and it was awesome trying to play while intoxicated.
I don't see why mind altering is necessarily moronic. I find psychedelic mushrooms, for example, to be rather fascinating.
Sir Phoenixx wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:26 I don't smoke or drink alcohol, never did, nor do I ever want to. (Why do people say they drink alcohol (and/or get drunk) to have "fun", when alcohol is a depressant?) Exactly what i've been thinking of, not that I have something against drinking, but to have "fun" is just rather unlogical.. In my point of view.
I am not as clean cut as some of you....I used to smoke...I started smoking when I was 13 becuase it helped make me popular in school, but I always promised myself that if i got pregnant I would quit, because it isnt JUST me i'm killing anymore...and when I found out i was pregnant last april I quit cold turkey, and better still I made my mother quit with me. We have both been smoke free for 18 months now (and niether of us are even tempted to start again) I do drink Alcohol. I quit drinking it when i was nearly 20 (im nearly 22 now) because I used to get completely wrecked, start fights, wake up in the morning and not remember how i got there (although that occasion I think my drink was spiked...luckily I was with my friends who got me home) Now i just drink once a week and that's like 1 50ml measure of Baileys...so it's not exactly returning to my old habits. I used to smoke pot when I was 14...I'm not proud of it, but I wont deny it. In my defense I disowned one of my friends who got me into pot when she started snorting coke...That was when I gave up the habit. EDIT: Alcohol is a depressant yes, but it also removes your inhabitions...so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand or start a fight or dance with a girl/guy or give someone your number, the chances of you doing all the above things are greatly increase. It can be a stimulant if you mix it correctly. It's the down that comes after it that makes it a depressant!
I smoke. Sue me. Mainly at parties, but hey. For those of you who dont like me, just take refuge in the "fact" I'll be dead before you
mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:12 I don't see why mind altering is necessarily moronic. I find psychedelic mushrooms, for example, to be rather fascinating. Do you even know why/how those mushrooms work in your body? You're playing a dangerous game when you induce those effects on your body (very specifically your brain), and above all else, you don't HAVE to.
Spoony wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:38 I think a better question is why would you question the logic of a person doing something when you've already admitted you've never done it yourself, therefore having absolutely no frame of reference. Thank you! It's really hard for someone who's never tried anything to comment on drug usage. Before I smoked, I thought it was awful. To every person who said they have had alcohol but haven't and won't ever touch drugs: you're all idiots. Alcohol IS a drug. In fact, it's a harder drug than marijuana. mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 09:08 Anyone here ever smoke salvia? Twice. Both times were *alright*, but nothing really extraordinary. I don't intend on smoking salvia any time soon, but probably will try it again eventually.
I am no biologist, but I've done my research. Although the psilocybin and psilocin in mushrooms interferes with brain activity, both chemicals leave the body after a few days, and neither, as far as I am aware, has any lasting negative effects. Mushrooms are quite safe, given a proper set (one's mental condition at the time of tripping) and setting (where one trips). Obviously, there are risks, but they are minimal. And no, I don't HAVE to do drugs, mushrooms or otherwise, but I choose to. It's an experience (especially with psychedelic drugs) that a sober person will never come close to.
I'm glad you've done your research, because I shouldn't have to explain to you what neurotransmitters are being fucked with when you take those mushrooms. That is also assuming, of course, you're taking mushrooms that contain exactly and precisely only the two chemicals you've put forth. If you know anything about homeostatis, then you should know full well what happens when the body is put into a stress or awkward situation. Psilocin will bump serotonin out of the dendrill and synapse nearly 100% of the time because it will completely flood the synaptic cleft when it is ingested. So where does that serotonin go? It either floods around looking blindly for other synapses, or gets converted into literally ANYTHING else it can bond to. For all you know, a toxin. You might as well consider it taking a serotonin suppliment, obviously a gross overdose, when you don't need one. I think the real irony is that all of these "shrooms are safe" sites can't explain at ALL what happens when psilocin bonds to the synapses. I find it equally interesting to note that nothing seems to deal with the hallcination effect either. While I've never hullincated to my knowledge myself, I do know what happens during it. The eyes specifically start doing erratic things; firing at random intervals and releasing random bursts of colour that the brain can understand. You might call it "fun", but I would consider it to be a much more serious afflication. It is fortunate that like all neutransmitters, the psilocin is decarded in a relatively short amount of time, but it hardly justifies the chain reaction of UNKNOWN variables that comes as a result of you blocking the natural chemicals from going where they are designed to go.
I like to drink, I love the feeling. I am not an alcoholic however. I am merely a weekend drinker and its not every weekend. I have never been in trouble because of it and anything. Smoked pot for a few months saw what it was doing to the people around me and completely stopped. Shrooms never tried never will. Cigs never. Cigars very very rarely only if I get a good one. Though I havent smoked one in about 6 months, so I think I am done.
Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand *cough*
I smoke a Cuban or two when my dad comes back from overseas, but I'll never try a cigarette. I'll drink at family parties 'n' stuff when my dad lets me have my own glass of wine. Ain't nothin' wrong with drinkin' a little wine.
Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 We have both been smoke free for 18 months now (and niether of us are even tempted to start again) Be careful though. One of the insideous games that smoking plays with your mind is that smoking "calms you down" (actually it's that smoking wards off the nicotine withdrawal, which makes you feel jittery). What I'm getting at is that I have seen many people who quit smoking, start smoking again because something traumatic happened, and the desire to have a cigarette to "calm down" can be overwhelming. My own father, who had not smoked a single cigarette for 20 years, when something bad happened one day, he stopped at the store, bought cigarettes and a lighter, and was smoking...AND DIDNT CONSCIOUSLY REALIZE IT. Sadly, The best way to stop smoking is never to start at all.
Javaxcx... I 100% agree with you about alcohol. I have zero desire to lose control of myself that way. I am much more content to be the designated driver. I can't say that I don't drink at all, though. I have one mixed drink that I like, and if I drink, I have one of those early on. Sometimes I can feel a little light from it, but the sensation is very similar to when my blood sugar is low so it's not really pleasant to me.
hey Blazer, your wrong, i like smoking and don't wanna quit yes, i smoke as a relaxation technique, and dammit, no matter what you tell me, first up smoke, after dinner smoke, and after sex smoke is just... godly
DaveGMM wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 16:59 I smoke. Sue me. Mainly at parties, but hey. For those of you who dont like me, just take refuge in the "fact" I'll be dead before you thank you for just giving us the main arguements all smokers give me... none: just be aggressive towardst he one that makes a logical reason not to smoke . Seen this many, many times before!
j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 18:49 Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand *cough* Yes Jake have done that, more times then i can count on one hand too. But serious relationships always turn out bad for me, so I usually have 1 night casual sex with friends, if we are both single and both using protection I dont see the big deal. And to put across a point to everyone saying "drugs are bad for you" DRUGS are found in nature, harnessed by man and cut with a bunch of chemicals which MAKES THEM HARMFUL, if you take the drug from the plant naturally it wont kill you unless you have a serious overdose, but did you know eating too many bananas overloads your potassium levels and stops your heart? Too much of anything is deadly, but taking drugs when you dont know how they have been cut is playing russain roulette (check that spelling!?) Drug dealers cut them with things like bleach and gasoline to create a bigger yeild so they get more out of less and a shit load more money. I can guarantee what they feed themselves is on the whole quite harmless compared to what they sell! Blazer I couldn't agree with you more, I am very careful, but my baby girl is like a nicotine patch to me, I'm going through a very stressful divorce at the moment and I am not tempted in the slightest, I hate the way my teeth are stained from when I used to smoke and that is now costing me a fortune to put right. I have non-smoker friends who i can talk to and my mother too. I have a great support system (I'm one of the lucky few)
It would have to be a massive amount of bananas.
Drinking too much water (i think it was something like 20 liters) will also give you water poisoning and u'll die from it...
SEAL: You rock. Love your insights and ideas, way to stick it to them. Mrpirate: I want to try salvia really badly, I've heard its amazing, can you concur? And I love the fact that you can literally walk down the street, puffing on a salvia j. To anyone who smokes weed, tryed snowboarding with it? I love it. I've tried shrooms, but it was so intense I don't think that I will ever do them again. I watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vagas and nearly broke down in a fit of screaming... I can skateboard amazingly better though on them, however. Hash is very nice, its smoother then chonic Tryed it? To all: Drugs ARE a hot issue, feel free to put forth your own ideas and comments, but under no circumstances should you honestly believe and attempt to convince everyone else that your opinion is FACT (this applies also for everyone, anytime. We're just human, regardless of laws or ethics, there will never be a universal agreement on fact, imho ) I'm going to make a poll version of this thread, please feel free to post in it as well. Cheers! Edit: Oh, just discovered that I can't make a poll, bummer I wanted to see the results via graphs. Meh.
To those who argue that people who have never tried something have no "right" to comment (ie. SEAL): Give it a rest. Those people have as much validity to comment as people who are currently using the substance. The only people who seem to think otherwise are those who have done, and liked it. Why? Because they oppose you. I have never seen someone use that excuse when the non-user agrees with the user. Get over it, experiance does not automatically negate intelligence. How something makes you feel does not automatically negate whether or not it is a good thing. It does not negate the idea that doing it is right, or wrong. It does not negate the idea that there is no other arguement to using the substance OTHER than "it feels good". There is no physical or mental advantage to using mind altering substances. There is no true social advantage to using such substances, unless you enjoy being only "with your own kind", which is simply nothing more than a bunch of people reinforcing what they are doing. I believe the busness name for these type of people are "yes men" (the ones who do nothing but agree with what the other person is doing, regardless of what it is?). I ask this: Are you so inept at thinking, that you must chemically alter your brain so that you can accomplish this? You wonder why people call those who do drugs "moronic", well here is why: Moron: A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. When you put yourself into that "high", this is exactly how you act, think, etc. "Cool, look at what I can do with my hand! Huhuhuhuhuh." "Let's see how much I suck at this game now!"
every day
Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 06:47 j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 18:49 Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand *cough* Yes Jake have done that, more times then i can count on one hand too. But serious relationships always turn out bad for me, so I usually have 1 night casual sex with friends, if we are both single and both using protection I dont see the big deal. No, woman, I mean that's what happened to me. Though, I am pretty sure I would have done it without alcohol. Edit: Warranto, for your information, the only that degrades when I'm intoxicated are my motor skills. I still show and use common sense, and I am just as coherent when intoxicated as I am sober. It was the experimentation that I found to be intriguing, not because I was acting like a 7-12 year old.
SuperMidget wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 09:41 Mrpirate: I want to try salvia really badly, I've heard its amazing, can you concur? And I love the fact that you can literally walk down the street, puffing on a salvia j. You could walk down the street smoking a salvia joint, but it wouldn't do anything because salvia needs to burn hotter than marijuana if its effects are to be realized. You need to use a pipe or a bong for salvia-related endeavours. And it is, indeed, amazing. Although if you found shrooms too intense, perhaps salvia is not for you, as--although the experience is vastly different--I found it far more overwhelming than mushrooms. It is, after all, the strongest natural hallucinogen. The first time I smoked it I became the bench I was sitting on. Then, when I tried to get up and walk away, it felt like my feet were underground and I was dragging the whole park around with me. If you're not relaxed and ready for a really absurd experience, salvia can be the most terrifying thing you ever do. Warranto: A lot of drugs don't really feel good, salvia being a prime example. They're just... interesting. You'd have to try something like mushrooms or salvia or LSD to understand its worth, I think. (Although, and correct me if I'm wrong, I believe LSD was used--with some success--in treating alcoholics).
hmmm....it's suddenly uncomfortable in this thread.
MrPirate: Whoa, I can almost relate to your park experience, but still i'd like to try it, and now that I know what a shroom trip is like, I would try it again, but with a buddy that does it (the first and only time I did 2.5g at my buddy's house, we didn't have enough so he just smoked chron. He does it now and then, very rarely though). Quote: I ask this: Are you so inept at thinking, that you must chemically alter your brain so that you can accomplish this? I take offense to this. This is supposed to be a non-hostile thread, if you are going to continue to degrade others, don't post. We don't smoke to 'chemically alter our brains' so that we can ACCOMPLISH things! We do it to have FUN, it's a different REALITY, like a seperate life if you will. We smoke for almost the same reasons almost as drinking does, except slightly different. It's usually social, it TOTALLY makes you apprciate EVERYTHING (food, sports, life in general) twice over. Don't bash it, respect it! It'll be legalised soon enough. (In Canada anyway)
It takes a few times on zoomies before one can be by oneself comfortably, I think... so I can understand why you wouldn't have enjoyed them. Also, make sure if you're smoking salvia to have someone sober spotting you, since for about 15 minutes you'll be almost completely disconnected from reality.
mrpirate wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:03 It takes a few times on zoomies before one can be by oneself comfortably, I think... so I can understand why you wouldn't have enjoyed them. Also, make sure if you're smoking salvia to have someone sober spotting you, since for about 15 minutes you'll be almost completely disconnected from reality. Nice.. Well, my buddy who spotted me on zoomies, also smoked saliva and told me about it. Soo expensive though! I found shrooms to be absolutly FANSINATING though, during and after. BTW, have you ever put water on your face while tripping on shrooms? Doesn't it feel like your face is melting/it never gets dry, or something weird like that? Maybe it's only me...
Goztow wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 10:48 DaveGMM wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 16:59 I smoke. Sue me. Mainly at parties, but hey. For those of you who dont like me, just take refuge in the "fact" I'll be dead before you thank you for just giving us the main arguements all smokers give me... none: just be aggressive towardst he one that makes a logical reason not to smoke . Seen this many, many times before! Agressive? Hardly. You're the one who is being adversarial here. I don't even know you, so who the heck are you to comment on my lifestyle? I'm not defending smoking (how did you even infer that I was?). I'm the son of a doctor, I know what smoking does to people. I suppose I just find it a little annoying that people presume to tell me how to lead my life or what to do - or like you do, go "Well, here are the reasons WHY people in general don't smoke, so why are you still doing it, hmm?" You seem to think no sane person could ever disagree with you. Good job I don't posess something so stupidly worthless as sanity. Go back to demeaning someone else, ok? I'm going for a fag.
Do you know where they get the shrooms that you eat?
So that's who it was then Jake.... and your idea of you being drunk and still having common sense is funny. You were talking to me on TS saying the most annoying things, being an ass to someone from wil0's server and being an annoying grammer nazi.... Oh no wait, you are right, there was no difference at all!
Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:59 So that's who it was then Jake.... and your idea of you being drunk and still having common sense is funny. You were talking to me on TS saying the most annoying things, being an ass to someone from wil0's server and being an annoying grammer nazi.... Oh no wait, you are right, there was no difference at all! It was 3 weeks ago, so I don't remember exactly what I was saying over TS, but I do know that I knew what I was saying. Also, YOU'RE the one to told me to be an ass to engnst0rm, so don't be blaming that shit on me.
j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 16:00 Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:59 So that's who it was then Jake.... and your idea of you being drunk and still having common sense is funny. You were talking to me on TS saying the most annoying things, being an ass to someone from wil0's server and being an annoying grammer nazi.... Oh no wait, you are right, there was no difference at all! It was 3 weeks ago, so I don't remember exactly what I was saying over TS, but I do know that I knew what I was saying. Also, YOU'RE the one to told me to be an ass to engnst0rm, so don't be blaming that shit on me. I did not tell you to be an ass! I said wow you were really calm with him you must be drunk, because you would normally be an ass...and off you went typing the word fuck like 8 times in 1 paragraph
Either way, you ENCOURAGED it, so don't lie.
SuperMidget wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:51 We don't smoke to 'chemically alter our brains' so that we can ACCOMPLISH things! We do it to have FUN, it's a different REALITY, like a seperate life if you will. We smoke for almost the same reasons almost as drinking does, except slightly different. It's usually social, it TOTALLY makes you apprciate EVERYTHING (food, sports, life in general) twice over. Hey! thanks for proving my point! Quote: there is no other arguement to using the substance OTHER than "it feels good". And well, I don't think I have to point out that I never said "accomplish things", and that I said "Accomplish this", which, in the absence of an item, refers to what I had said previously. That being that it is done simply "because it feels good". Kind of substantiates that "moronic" comment, doesn't it? Quote: Don't bash it, respect it! Respect what? Respect something that makes you act like a fool? Respect something that has an alters your bodies chemistry in a non-beneficial way? Respect something that eats at an income with no beneficial results? Respect something that is STILL illegal? Respect something that people become addicted to? Yes... that is definitely something that requires respect j_ball: I was referring to drug usage, not alcohol. Hence the "high" description. mrpirate: being serious here, perhaps you could identify the difference between something "feeling good", and something being interesting.
warranto wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:14 j_ball: I was referring to drug usage, not alcohol. Hence the "high" description. You mentioned the thing about how you'd play in a game, which I mentioned earlier in the thread.
heh, thought that's what it would be. No, that just reminded me of a time when someone I knew stated that they get high just to play games because some of his have been modded to display "psychedelic" colours. I played with him once, while he was like this. It was the worst playing I've seen... almost ever.
I played, and I played horribly, but it was just the fact that my reaction time was so slow. I still killed quite a few people, and that's hard to do in DoD.
DaveGMM wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:17 Goztow wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 10:48 DaveGMM wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 16:59 I smoke. Sue me. Mainly at parties, but hey. For those of you who dont like me, just take refuge in the "fact" I'll be dead before you thank you for just giving us the main arguements all smokers give me... none: just be aggressive towardst he one that makes a logical reason not to smoke . Seen this many, many times before! Agressive? Hardly. You're the one who is being adversarial here. I don't even know you, so who the heck are you to comment on my lifestyle? I'm not defending smoking (how did you even infer that I was?). I'm the son of a doctor, I know what smoking does to people. I suppose I just find it a little annoying that people presume to tell me how to lead my life or what to do - or like you do, go "Well, here are the reasons WHY people in general don't smoke, so why are you still doing it, hmm?" You seem to think no sane person could ever disagree with you. Good job I don't posess something so stupidly worthless as sanity. Go back to demeaning someone else, ok? I'm going for a fag. The "sue me" part was clear enough to me...
Warranto: People do drugs like marijuana, cocaine or ecstasy, and alcohol, to a lesser extent, to feel good. I smoke pot and drink to get my mind off school, and whatever problems I've got. I am not disagreeing with you, nor do I deny that this can lead to an unhealthy dependence. And, while psychedelic drugs (i.e. LSD, mushrooms, mescaline, etc.) can feel good, if you do them with the sole intent of having a little fun, you will certainly be surprised. The effect is similar, I suppose, to travelling to a different dimension, or planet. One feels like they can suddenly understand everything, and ideas flow exceptionally easily and quickly. Psychedelics are great if you want to sit with a friend or two for a few hours and discuss philisophy or something. Now, I'm not saying that what you're talking about will be ground-breaking, or even make any sense, but it's certainly an experience unlike anything else. It can be scary, as well, since everything is so alien, one might feel like they're losing control and become extremely disoriented. Many people will do mushrooms once, have a bad experience, and never do them again. There were a few minutes, the last time I did mushrooms, when I was certain I was going to die. However, most of the night I spent talking with a group of my best friends while watching the unimaginably beautiful and colourful patterns dance around on the wall. There is always a bit of bad, even in a good trip. It's also worth noting that if you do psychedelics to escape from your problems, your problems will only manifest themselves in your trip. I guess the difference is that psychedelics are more like going on an adventure than just feeling good. Why do you think it's called tripping? (People who use the word 'tripping' with reference to marijuana generally do not know what they are talking about)
warranto wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 10:25 Give it a rest. Those people have as much validity to comment as people who are currently using the substance. No they don't. You don't know why people are drawn to the experience the drugs create because you haven't had the experience yourself. So all you can do is whine about how it's unhealthy and a bad idea, and none of the people you're preaching to will take you seriously because you have no frame of reference.
He's right Warranto. Didn't you know that you can't diss anything till you've tried it? You know, drunk driving is a blast so I hear. So is cutting yourself. Let's not forget homosexuality, or even suicide!
Using substance abuse to escape reality, like running from school and your responsibilites, is a pussy ass way of avoiding the situation. Go remedy it like a man. Java's observation is right on. Don't inhale anything you can see. Don't be gay.
Quote: Go remedy it like a man. Can't really say that to women. :\ I personally dislike the habbits of the people of my age (here, that is)... Spending a 10 bucks to get a few grams of marijuana from someone I personally know, eating mushrooms, drinking before the legal age (and massively), but that doesn't mean I hate them, I just dislike what they do to themselves, and when they do I, I enjoy being absent. The only form of alcohol I personally tolerate right now is rotten raisin juice/wine, because I dislike the taste of beer.
SEAL wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 17:54 warranto wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 10:25 Give it a rest. Those people have as much validity to comment as people who are currently using the substance. No they don't. You don't know why people are drawn to the experience the drugs create because you haven't had the experience yourself. So all you can do is whine about how it's unhealthy and a bad idea, and none of the people you're preaching to will take you seriously because you have no frame of reference. And I assume using the substance will cause people to take you seriously? "You should use it because I use it." has less of a credibility than someone who says not to use it, and then gives good reasons. Of course you're going to suggest to use it, after all, if you didn't you'd be contradicting your actions, which would make you look bad. Unless you're suggesting the addiction it creates somehow absolves you of any biased opinion towards the subject.
warranto wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 19:12 SEAL wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 17:54 warranto wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 10:25 Give it a rest. Those people have as much validity to comment as people who are currently using the substance. No they don't. You don't know why people are drawn to the experience the drugs create because you haven't had the experience yourself. So all you can do is whine about how it's unhealthy and a bad idea, and none of the people you're preaching to will take you seriously because you have no frame of reference. And I assume using the substance will cause people to take you seriously? "You should use it because I use it." has less of a credibility than someone who says not to use it, and then gives good reasons. Of course you're going to suggest to use it, after all, if you didn't you'd be contradicting your actions, which would make you look bad. Unless you're suggesting the addiction it creates somehow absolves you of any biased opinion towards the subject. I'm not getting involved in your little tiff.....but: We are all biased as far as this subject is concerned. Those who try it now, see no reason to give up or no reason why you think them doing what they want is any of your business. Those who used to try it, but no longer do it and have no temptation to go there again, could play Devil's Advocate or de-nouce it completely Those who have never tried and DO NOT wish to will have (forgive me for saying this..but) a rather cynical view on it. It's irresponsible, it's stupid, there is nothing clever or attractive about it, yet people continue to do it. I dunno why, I guess it will be one of those great mysteries...but sometimes peoples curiosities get the better of them...and adiction happens on different levels to different people. Just trying to make you see it from each others eyes is all (not trying to get either of you to agree, we are all entitled to our opinions)
Javaxcx wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 17:56 He's right Warranto. Didn't you know that you can't diss anything till you've tried it? You know, drunk driving is a blast so I hear. So is cutting yourself. Let's not forget homosexuality, or even suicide! Let's go kill those fucking fags!
i think i`m joining a tad late but here it goes. I smoke cigarretes, very light ones (0,1mg Nicothine, 1mg Tars (or whatever its called in English)).Its a bad habbit but does a good job in stressy situations.As for the smell and the taste - a gum always does the trick for me . I drink beer from time to-to time.Mainly if i had a hard day at school. I also drink with my friends when we are (as they call it) "having fun".Maximum 3 beers. No drugs.Never did, never will.Its as bad enough that i smoke, if i try this-i`m dead for sure...
warranto wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 16:14 Respect what? Respect something that makes you act like a fool? Respect something that has an alters your bodies chemistry in a non-beneficial way? Respect something that eats at an income with no beneficial results? Respect something that is STILL illegal? Respect something that people become addicted to? Yes... that is definitely something that requires respect j_ball: I was referring to drug usage, not alcohol. Hence the "high" description. mrpirate: being serious here, perhaps you could identify the difference between something "feeling good", and something being interesting. Respect something that makes you act like a fool? In no way does it make you act like a fool, it relaxes, it soothes, and it makes things more interesting and funny. Respect something that has an alters your bodies chemistry in a non-beneficial way? Overdose DOES have negative side-effects, but you'd have to smoke around 5 grams of weed a DAY for several weeks for there to be even minal damage, that's a lot of weed. We're talking like SOCIAL, (don't take the work literal), now and then, sports, boring events (and not all of the time!) etc. Respect something that eats at an income with no beneficial results? EATS AT AN INCOME?! LMAO Weed is 10 bucks a gram (Cnd) which lasts me alone for a week, sometimes two. When I want to smoke with friends we just all throw a little into the pitch. Heavy smokers can buy a lot of weed at once for a cheaper price and it will last them for a long time. Respect something that is STILL illegal? De-Criminalized for a period of time, there has been MUCH current controversy over this in our country. It's just like the prohibition back in the 'day'. People kept breaking the rules, and it never stopped completely, it was so minor that they took it off. As such will eventaully happen to weed again. I'm acutally taking Police Foundations and we've talked about this in class with our professor, he even agrees. Man.. come to think about it, about half our class smokes weed now Second Year! Respect something that people become addicted to? Um.. I have plently of friends, and people who are friends' friends, and I even know 42 year olds who still admit they are NOT addicted, even after years of it. I've been doing it just over a year now, a lot in the summer, now more now and then, and I still am honestly able to take month-long breaks without it. Same goes with all my friends. Now I'm not being hostile, but it would be better if you hund your ignorance up at the door.
God of Death wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:45 Do you know where they get the shrooms that you eat? Well since no one responded to this I feel I should answer it. I used to go shroom hunting with a friend of mine back in my pot smoking days. Shrooms are from a seed that passes through the intestines of a cow or like animal. Most shrooms are plucked out of cow shit. Yes its true. It is a seed that has grown through the shit of another animal. I personally went on a shroom raid with my friend. why he still ate them I have no clue, but it was fun, because we were high and made "adventures" out of it. F.Y.I. I did leave that past behind about 7-8 months ago. I still drink though and enjoy it.
mrpirate: thanks for the explanation (I would have responded last time, but I missed the post). That's what I was thinking when i mentioned "feel good". I just thought it all fell under one heading. Consider, then, that when I say "feel good" that is meant to mean all that was mentioned. kytten9: Oh , I know we're al biased in this situation. All I was inferring is that suggesting one biased behaviour is better than another, simply because of the choice (or lack thereof) regarding drug usage. SuperMidget: Quote: In no way does it make you act like a fool, it relaxes, it soothes, and it makes things more interesting and funny. That may be your perspective, but trust me when I say that is not what it looks like to everyone else that is sober. Quote: Overdose DOES have negative side-effects, but you'd have to smoke around 5 grams of weed a DAY for several weeks for there to be even minal damage, that's a lot of weed. We're talking like SOCIAL, (don't take the work literal), now and then, sports, boring events (and not all of the time!) etc. I'm not speaking of overdoses. I'm speaking everything regarding the usage of drugs. There is no benefit for using them (yes, I know there are some exceptions regarding the painkilling attribute of marijuana-but that doesn't apply because not every user is in that type of pain). It does nothing to benefit the body in any way. Quote: EATS AT AN INCOME?! LMAO Weed is 10 bucks a gram (Cnd) which lasts me alone for a week, sometimes two. When I want to smoke with friends we just all throw a little into the pitch. Heavy smokers can buy a lot of weed at once for a cheaper price and it will last them for a long time Yes, eats at an income. Do the math. 2 people who work at the same job, get the same wage, same hours etc. and come out with $100 for that day. Person 1 does nothing with the money. Person 2 goes to buy (in your example) 1 gram of marijuana. Person 1's income at the end of the day: $100. Person 2's income at the end of the day: $90. I do believe that $90 is LESS than $100. Quote: De-Criminalized for a period of time, there has been MUCH current controversy over this in our country. It's just like the prohibition back in the 'day'. People kept breaking the rules, and it never stopped completely, it was so minor that they took it off. As such will eventaully happen to weed again. I'm acutally taking Police Foundations and we've talked about this in class with our professor, he even agrees. Man.. come to think about it, about half our class smokes weed now Second Year! Wow, people who smoke marijuana agreeing that is should be decriminalized... surprise there. (See what i mean by the "yes-man" attitude?) And of course, when something becomes so common, it should become legal. Great point of view. Perhaps theft should be next. It seems to occur often enough. It's also good news for murderers, looks like if they keep it up, it should become legal! Quote: Um.. I have plently of friends, and people who are friends' friends, and I even know 42 year olds who still admit they are NOT addicted, even after years of it. I've been doing it just over a year now, a lot in the summer, now more now and then, and I still am honestly able to take month-long breaks without it. Same goes with all my friends. Here, I'll prove that even you are addicted to it. I challenge you to give up any and all drugs for the rest of your life. I bet you won't accept. Why? It doesn't matter, whether it's because you "like it", or "you simply don't want to", that's proof of the addiction. Refusal to stop. An addiction doesn't have to be physical. It can be just as psychological.
Javaxcx wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 17:56 He's right Warranto. Didn't you know that you can't diss anything till you've tried it? Let's go on on this. Can you dish non-smokers' opinions then because you haven't tried not to smoke for a couple of years? Not saying this to you but saying this to several persons in here that outed this opinion. Not doing something has as much value as doing something... Quote: I bet you won't accept. Why? It doesn't matter, whether it's because you "like it", or "you simply don't want to", that's proof of the addiction. Refusal to stop. An addiction doesn't have to be physical. It can be just as psychological. Many drugs aren't physically addicting but they are all very psychologically addicting for sure.
warranto wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 02:12 That may be your perspective, but trust me when I say that is not what it looks like to everyone else that is sober. I've been around people sober when they are high too... they acts different yes, but not in a bad way. They are having more fun, not acting like a fool, I suppose it is one opinion so we can't really settle this argument. Quote: Overdose DOES have negative side-effects, but you'd have to smoke around 5 grams of weed a DAY for several weeks for there to be even minal damage, that's a lot of weed. We're talking like SOCIAL, (don't take the work literal), now and then, sports, boring events (and not all of the time!) etc. I'm not speaking of overdoses. I'm speaking everything regarding the usage of drugs. There is no benefit for using them (yes, I know there are some exceptions regarding the painkilling attribute of marijuana-but that doesn't apply because not every user is in that type of pain). It does nothing to benefit the body in any way. There are tons of things in society that people take that are non beneficial to the body. Cigars + Cigarettes, alcohol, even some fast foods have little to no health benefits. Quote: EATS AT AN INCOME?! LMAO Weed is 10 bucks a gram (Cnd) which lasts me alone for a week, sometimes two. When I want to smoke with friends we just all throw a little into the pitch. Heavy smokers can buy a lot of weed at once for a cheaper price and it will last them for a long time Yes, eats at an income. Do the math. 2 people who work at the same job, get the same wage, same hours etc. and come out with $100 for that day. Person 1 does nothing with the money. Person 2 goes to buy (in your example) 1 gram of marijuana. Person 1's income at the end of the day: $100. Person 2's income at the end of the day: $90. I do believe that $90 is LESS than $100. [/quote] Dude, now quit being retarded. Life isn't a math book of problems. People that can afford it, buy it. People that can't, don't. It's as simple as that. They either find others that will smoke them up for free or save up enough money until they can. It's called budgeting. It's no different they buying other luxuries, like a chocolate bar at the grocery store, or a boat to cruise in. You set a goal, save, and buy! So according to your theory, buying anything that is not a human NEED 'eats at an income' (in a negative way, as you put forth that gesture). Quote: De-Criminalized for a period of time, there has been MUCH current controversy over this in our country. It's just like the prohibition back in the 'day'. People kept breaking the rules, and it never stopped completely, it was so minor that they took it off. As such will eventaully happen to weed again. I'm acutally taking Police Foundations and we've talked about this in class with our professor, he even agrees. Man.. come to think about it, about half our class smokes weed now Second Year! Wow, people who smoke marijuana agreeing that is should be decriminalized... surprise there. (See what i mean by the "yes-man" attitude?) And of course, when something becomes so common, it should become legal. Great point of view. Perhaps theft should be next. It seems to occur often enough. It's also good news for murderers, looks like if they keep it up, it should become legal! The key words in here that you failed to read here is MINOR. People have been doing this for a long time, and police officers now usually don't even arrest for this offence (yes, it IS an arrestable offence if there is weed in your car), they usually take people's drug and pipe (or other tools), destroy it, report it in, or use it themselves (RARELY, but it happens). And not just people who smoke think it should be decriminalized. The vast population of Canada thinks that it should be, so that our police force can stop worrying about such a small issue and focus on more important stuff. Also, the government could make a shit load more money if they let this go. Quote: Um.. I have plently of friends, and people who are friends' friends, and I even know 42 year olds who still admit they are NOT addicted, even after years of it. I've been doing it just over a year now, a lot in the summer, now more now and then, and I still am honestly able to take month-long breaks without it. Same goes with all my friends. Here, I'll prove that even you are addicted to it. I challenge you to give up any and all drugs for the rest of your life. I bet you won't accept. Why? It doesn't matter, whether it's because you "like it", or "you simply don't want to", that's proof of the addiction. Refusal to stop. An addiction doesn't have to be physical. It can be just as psychological. Of course I'm not going to accept, who are you to challenge me to stop? To me you're just some person (kid or otherwise) on a computer named 'warranto'. OOooo I'm so intimidated... I better quit right now to shut this guy up. Gimmie a break. I've told you already in my post that I can, and often DO take several month-long BREAKS (that means 'No Smoking' if you don't understand a second time). The reason I start up again is again to have some fun, or the midterm is over, or at a party, etc. And usually when I start back up, it's not regular, most of the time after a break I usually just smoke once or twice a month. I love your arguments, but if you're going to post stupid things, that contradict yourself, don't bother! Read my posts a little better and THEN state your opinion. ----- As to that comment about shrooms and that they grow in cow dung... Hate to break it to you all, but so does 90% of your fruits and vegetables that you eat at dinner time does too
warranto wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 02:12 Here, I'll prove that even you are addicted to it. I challenge you to give up any and all drugs for the rest of your life. I bet you won't accept. Why? It doesn't matter, whether it's because you "like it", or "you simply don't want to", that's proof of the addiction. Refusal to stop. An addiction doesn't have to be physical. It can be just as psychological. That's the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard. If you challenged me never to watch television ever again for the rest of my life (something I do extremely rarely anyway, we're talking a handful of times a year here), am I addicted to television if I say no?
I'd say no if you asked me to never smoke a cigar again or drink alcohol again. I'm certainly not addicted to it by any means. It's simply that I enjoy the experience. Are you going to give up an experience that you enjoy? I enjoy eating hamburgers, I am certainly not addicted, but if you challenged me to stop eating them for the rest of my life, I'd certainly laugh at you. I'm telling you right now, I WOULD get tired of hamburgers, alcohol, and cigars if I continuously consumed them, and that's certainly not characteristic of addiction, is it?
Well, I haven't posted here yet, mostly because of how much of an idiot Goztow is, but here goes: I don't smoke. I drink, but I don't smoke. The only reason is because I haven't ever tried it, and there's a small possibility that I won't. I don't see smoking as something that ends everyones lives, because both my grandfather and my father smoke, and they're in near-perfect health. My grandfather is over 60 years old, and my father is over 40. If my father stopped smoking, he would pick up a worse habit, eating Butter Fingers. For some reason he swaps to them whenever he stops smoking, he began to eat a case a week, or day I don't remember, and it got cheaper to just buy him cigarettes. As for drinking, I'm not addicted. I've had very little alcohol, enough to give me a buzz a few times, but I won't "give it up" because you need something to relax every once in awhile. Now, I'm addicted to caffeine, but there's no way I'm giving that up. Coke just tastes to damn good! J Ball is right, just because he - or anyone else for that matter - isn't addicted to something, doesn't mean they'll give it up if you tell them to. I don't watch TV much anymore, but I enjoy it when I do. I listen to alot of music, but I'm not addicted, and I'm damn sure not giving it up. That's like telling a vegetarian to stop eating vegetables. They may not be addicted to them, but they won't stop eating them.
what about sex Jake? We do that alot (some of us almost continuously everyday), would you give that up? and since you wouldn't get tired off it until your like 50 and your sex drive dies....are you actually addicted to sex? I think the word obsession is more appropriate! (BTW if anyone here gets sex almost continuously each day I HATE YOU)
I would honestly say that I AM, indeed, addicted to music, but that's neither a bad or unhealthy thing. As for sex, Clare, I wouldn't call it an addiction or obsession. It's a natural desire that can't be helped. It can be tamed, but you're not going to simply be able to ignore any urges. Believe me, I've tried, but there's just no getting around hormones. Also, who says I do that a lot? I haven't in over a year...
By we....I meant Humans in general and within our life times.....
I figured as much, but I felt the need to share. o_O
Lijitsu wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 10:32 Well, I haven't posted here yet, mostly because of how much of an idiot Goztow is, but here goes: I don't smoke. I drink, but I don't smoke. The only reason is because I haven't ever tried it, and there's a small possibility that I won't. I don't see smoking as something that ends everyones lives, because both my grandfather and my father smoke, and they're in near-perfect health. My grandfather is over 60 years old, and my father is over 40. If my father stopped smoking, he would pick up a worse habit, eating Butter Fingers. For some reason he swaps to them whenever he stops smoking, he began to eat a case a week, or day I don't remember, and it got cheaper to just buy him cigarettes. As for drinking, I'm not addicted. I've had very little alcohol, enough to give me a buzz a few times, but I won't "give it up" because you need something to relax every once in awhile. Now, I'm addicted to caffeine, but there's no way I'm giving that up. Coke just tastes to damn good! J Ball is right, just because he - or anyone else for that matter - isn't addicted to something, doesn't mean they'll give it up if you tell them to. I don't watch TV much anymore, but I enjoy it when I do. I listen to alot of music, but I'm not addicted, and I'm damn sure not giving it up. That's like telling a vegetarian to stop eating vegetables. They may not be addicted to them, but they won't stop eating them. Yeah, my grandfather is almost 90, he smokes and drinks heavily and has been since he was 13. Warranto, you've just been proven wrong by 4 other people. HA Just jokes. Some more things that are have absolutly no benefits to the body: Television, Music, Guitar, driving cars, using the COMPUTER. Just for thoughts
SuperMidget wrote on Fri, 21 October 2005 11:30 Some more things that are have absolutly no benefits to the body: Television, Music, Guitar, driving cars, using the COMPUTER. You are so wrong. Let's see... where to start? T.V.: Education, Entertainment, etc... I happen to like the History Channel, Food Network, etc... I also like to watch comedy shows. They make me laugh. Laughter is almost essential to being healthy. Music: Music makes you tranquil, music lets you express your emotions/opinions. Self-expression is very healthy. Maybe not so much physically, but it sure does help mentally and emotionally. Guitar: see "Music". Driving Cars: Okay, not so much healthy, but it is pretty much a necessity in today's world. Computer: Education, Gaming, chatting, etc... There is almost endless amounts of information on the internet. Computer gaming like FPS games teach you hand-eye coordination. Chatting (including public forums) helps you express your opinion, it helps develop your social skills. Sure, not near as much as it would as actually going out and being with people, but it's still better than just sitting on your butt all day doing nothing. You can also build skills that may just be an industry you want to go into. I'm desiring to go into graphic design and advertising, and by using the computer, I'm gaining the necessary skills in Photoshop and Illustrator.