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Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: http://www.cncreborn.planetcnc.gamespy.com/forum/viewtopic.p hp?t=594&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&hi ghlight= Renardin was kind enough to share this "skills" video with us over at Reborn. Apparently his friend intended it to prove he doesn't cheat, yet somehow he's capable of shooting a meter to the left of somebody's ear for a kill =) We'll ignore the lack of skill evident by the n00bjet use and entirely-removed scope.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-27T23:57:24-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Hmm... No cheats, eh? Unless the Clear Scope is a cheat, then i believe him. Y'know, aside from the fact that he shot about, as Chrono put it, a meter from someones ear, and killed them. A few of them looked like lag kills, and fewer were actual SKILL kills. Other than that, no, that was definate either cheating, or somethin. And what kind of Engineer gets out of his Mammoth, and doesnt repair while moving, or atleast BEHIND the damn thing?
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-08-28T00:11:29-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Well hes using a n00bjet thats proof that he cheats right there and if anyone likes n00bjets stfu He clearly cheats other ways but comon man a n00bjet who uses those
creator: dsi1
date: 2005-08-28T00:20:30-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: He doesn't cheat.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-08-28T01:13:16-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: dsi1 wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 20:20 Well hes using a n00bjet thats proof that he cheats right there and if anyone likes n00bjets stfu He clearly cheats other ways but comon man a n00bjet who uses those Who are you to say RamJets are cheating? They are more powerful so just because you get pwned by em, dont come here and bitch about it.
creator: Renerage
date: 2005-08-28T01:41:38-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: dsi1 wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 20:20 Well hes using a n00bjet thats proof that he cheats right there Listen here, Skippy. Everyone has, at one point, used the Ramjet. This does not imply that everyone cheats. I use the Ramjet when my team has taken over the enemy base, like, say, we have atleast 4 tanks in there, and they aint doin so hot against them. At that point, yes, i may consider using it just for the basic infantry that scurry around. Since you has that using the Ramjet is cheating, are you saying that cheat, because i rarely use it? If so, then why havent i been caught by Renguard? Crimson can possibly vouch for me on this, the most illegal thing ive had, was a bunch of skins that werent allowed by Renguard. Now dont complain about the fuggin Ramjet Rifle, especially if you get killed by one. The people who use it put themselves and their Credits at risk by using it, since it fires fuggin tracer rounds. If you think that they should be considered cheating because they use the overly powerful Sniper weapon, then i have but one thing to say to you: Nobody cares.
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-08-28T01:51:48-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: The word n00bjet is just a lameass excuse for people who are using a 500 and die. Boo fucking hoo, at least blame lag or something. Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it.
creator: Homey
date: 2005-08-28T04:13:14-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Homey wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 00:13 The word n00bjet is just a lameass excuse for people who are using a 500 and die. Boo fucking hoo, at least blame lag or something. Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it. Well put, i often get told i cheat cuz i NEVER lag. I ha ve a very powerful comp so what, its not cheating, and yes even i use the ramjets, even though i think 500 are better.
creator: Renerage
date: 2005-08-28T04:16:44-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Why would he make a video instead of just booting up renguard.....
creator: deerwalk
date: 2005-08-28T05:39:52-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: deerwalk wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 01:39 Why would he make a video instead of just booting up renguard..... Not every person who dont have renguard cheats.
creator: Renerage
date: 2005-08-28T06:04:42-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: cheekay77 wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:04 deerwalk wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 01:39 Why would he make a video instead of just booting up renguard..... Not every person who dont have renguard cheats. You didn't answer his question, nor explain the fact he can shoot WAY to the side of a player for a kill in a relatively lagless situation. PS: All you dumbfucks who think only losers call ramjets n00bjets have clearly never played with the people I have. Generally it's the n00bjets who suck ass, hence they use n00bjets to try to compensate. They do not "own" people, and I cannot even really consider ANY kill with a n00bjet "owning" somebody. "LOL I PWNED YOU I SHOT UR HAND" Wow. Skillz. Right there. "LOL I TOOK A RAILGUN SHOT AND LIVED! SKILLZ!" No. N00bjets users chronically suck ass. They do nothing but steal kills from people who would deserve them, and encourage suck-ass performance. Let me mention it is better against light vehicles than a damned railgun. And it shoots faster, scopes, and has great range. Homey wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 00:13 Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it. 90% of players consider removing the black border from a weapon that's already overpowered a cheat. It adds even more overpowered-ness especially against infantry which are smaller targets and therefore harder to target. 90% of players consider bright skins, solid-color-player-heads, and sbh skins cheats. In fact, I daresay only players who don't use them themselves consider purposely-bright SBH skins cheating, because when cloaked even at visible range, only about 30% of an SBH is visible. The bright, solid skins make that be 100%. Many server owners have a special way to deal with it: they kick or ban a player. Having a faster computer shouldn't be a huge issue. You can play this game FINE on a 1g…
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-28T06:20:46-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Homey wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 23:13 The word n00bjet is just a lameass excuse for people who are using a 500 and die. Boo fucking hoo, at least blame lag or something. Yeah they're over powered, but not against infantry. Clearscope isn't a cheat. So what if it's a slight advantage, bright skins are, sbh skins are, having a faster computer is and there are more things. Big deal, accept it. it's an anti-material rifle, meant for piercing through light armor. It's not over powered against vehicles at all. The fact that you can run and jump and dance infront of the other team while firing off 4 shots in a few seconds from a 50cal rifle is slightly over powered, don't you think? "Still using 500?" It's not something you work your way up to. People who have a hard time landing headshots generally buy havocs more often. People who land them more easily buy 500s because it's the more sensible choice. There's only one sniper rifle in the game. If I'm going to snipe, that's what I'll use.
creator: Renx
date: 2005-08-28T06:25:44-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Renegade can't run renegade worth shit on a 1ghz, well I really only play in the larger servers anyways. So every played that uses a ramjet is a n00b and steals kills, there's that bullshit logic again. Also while you're at it people prove to me chrono how 90% of the players out there think clearscope is a cheat. I wouldn't use it if I wasn't stuck with this 15" monitor but when I had a 19" I noticed no difference in my gameplay and how many people I killed with or without it. So there's another lame ass excuse. I'm glad you agree with me about the SBH skins because I think it's bullshit when you're seen from almost triple the distance of the original. Anyways bickering about how clearscope is such a huge advantage is horse shit, simply because it's not a huge advantage. Many people use them, it's not going to change much. Well renx I only think they're over powered on air vehicles, others are fine, well they get way too many points for shooting heavy armour vehicles though. PS chrono i'd love to see you join fnfall and see how you do anyways, you seem pretty arrogant about yourself.
creator: Homey
date: 2005-08-28T07:14:59-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Oh and don't think i'm a ramjet whore, I just use whatever, either way i'll get headshots. The people that I love the most are the ones that say n00bjet and body shoot with a 500 sniper, it's just pointless. Or the ones that say n00bjet and 5 minutes later you see them with one. Edit: Just thinking, chrono is going to come back and basically repeat himself with different words or something. Only way to settle it is a good ol game of rene.
creator: Homey
date: 2005-08-28T07:17:34-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Renx wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:25 it's an anti-material rifle, meant for piercing through light armor. It's not over powered against vehicles at all. I totally disagree, I don't mind at all someone getting mass kills with a ramjet just by bodyshotting everyone, but they are WAY overpowered against light armour vehicles considering how easy they are to use. The thing is, say I've got an artillery on Field. Some guy rushes me with a med tank. If he's really good in a med, he'll duck and dodge with the med, use cover to his advantage, and probably kill my art. On the other hand, if he's an average player, I'll kill his med in ten seconds flat and probably come out with 75% of my armour intact. A havoc on the other hand. The absolute worst player in the world does exactly as much damage as the best player. They have infinite range and even if you got the game five minutes ago you can't miss an artillery. That's why when someone says ramjets don't take skill and a ramjet-user disagrees or says "you just got owned deal with it" they're just making themselves look fucking stupid.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2005-08-28T07:50:51-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Exactly. See, thats why we think theyre fuggin retarded. They do way to much damage to vehicles, ESPECIALLY aerial units, and the scout vehicle, their one of the easiest to use weapons, their range is ungodly, and if your using them and kill someone, you should expect a quick response. I mean, come on, no friggan real weapon could be made like that! Atleast not a damn rifle. Renx is right, the firing speed on that damn rifle is WAY to fast. Chronojam 90% of players consider removing the black border from a weapon that's already overpowered a cheat. It adds even more overpowered-ness especially against infantry which are smaller targets and therefore harder to target. 90% of players consider bright skins, solid-color-player-heads, and sbh skins cheats. In fact, I daresay only players who don't use them themselves consider purposely-bright SBH skins cheating, because when cloaked even at visible range, only about 30% of an SBH is visible. The bright, solid skins make that be 100%. Yep. Removing that border is rather stupid, since it doesnt obstruct much of your view, and you can just zoom out if you really need to. Yeah, the bright skins are also stupid. Who the hell needs to try to show off his skills via a skin? And yes, also the bright head skins. I found a Deadeye one, that turned him into a friggan walkin Green Screen! Neon green, and it covered his vest, legs, and part of his head. Needless to say, thats one of my most hated skins. Besides, its ugly.
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-08-28T08:35:29-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I just play Renegade Stock now. Skins are overrated.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-08-28T11:41:37-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Chronojam 64mb video card. Radeon 7500? I remember my trusty ole' 7500. Played Renegade with it for 2 1/2 years. Ran fine.
creator: Opalkilla
date: 2005-08-28T12:59:50-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: gbull wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 06:41 I just play Renegade Stock now. Skins are overrated.
creator: Kanezor
date: 2005-08-28T14:07:13-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: omg 1v1
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-28T14:40:21-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Spoony wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:50 Renx wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 02:25 it's an anti-material rifle, meant for piercing through light armor. It's not over powered against vehicles at all. I totally disagree, I don't mind at all someone getting mass kills with a ramjet just by bodyshotting everyone, but they are WAY overpowered against light armour vehicles considering how easy they are to use. The thing is, say I've got an artillery on Field. Some guy rushes me with a med tank. If he's really good in a med, he'll duck and dodge with the med, use cover to his advantage, and probably kill my art. On the other hand, if he's an average player, I'll kill his med in ten seconds flat and probably come out with 75% of my armour intact. A havoc on the other hand. The absolute worst player in the world does exactly as much damage as the best player. They have infinite range and even if you got the game five minutes ago you can't miss an artillery. That's why when someone says ramjets don't take skill and a ramjet-user disagrees or says "you just got owned deal with it" they're just making themselves look fucking stupid. A high powered rifle like that should fuck up a light armored vehicle pretty easily. Then again so should another tank... Would make more sense if the ramjet did as much damage to vehicles as the 500 does, then the 500 did barely anything.
creator: Renx
date: 2005-08-28T16:26:00-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I honestly dont think hes cheating. These never ending arguements are so damn stupid... If clearscope was a cheat and everyone thought it was a cheat it wouldnt be aloud on renguard. And this n00bjet shit is fuckin retarded its a weapon in the game. it costs twice as more to buy then the regular sniper and it gives that blue tracer when it fires. I think thats enough to make up for it doing alittle more damage then the regular sniper. Who cares if you get killed by someone with it. Go spend the money and buy one then kill them. If you dont wanna spend 1000credits then dont bitch about getting owned. And Chrono i remember very clearly back in the old days in the mutant server you would own a shit load of people early in the game with a deadeye but then once someone finally killed you you would always switch to the sakky or havoc. (P.S omfg your girlfriend posts on your computer game forum thats fucking awesome, YOU HOLD ON TO THAT!) (P.P.S I think she blocked me cuz i havnt seen her online in like a year and a half)
creator: IceSword7
date: 2005-08-28T16:34:43-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: LOL have ANY of you been able to snipe reliably at long range with a PIC or Rav? Hint hint...
creator: =HT=T-Bird
date: 2005-08-28T20:29:07-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Renx wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 12:26 A high powered rifle like that should fuck up a light armored vehicle pretty easily. No way in hell it should do more than PIC/Rav, Mobius/Mendoza, or Gunner though, especially since all of the above have disadvantages the ramjet doesn't (PIC/Rav reload time, Mobius/Mendoza crappy range, Gunner rockets can be dodged... ramjets have none of the above, their range is as long as you could possibly need it to be, rapid fire/reload, and hits instantly) It should be about half as effective against vehicles as the above weapons, instead of about three times as effective as it currently stands
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2005-08-28T20:36:44-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: =HT=T-Bird wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 16:29 LOL have ANY of you been able to snipe reliably at long range with a PIC or Rav? Hint hint... Yeah it's fun, and it isn't too hard if a sniper tries to scope you.
creator: Homey
date: 2005-08-28T22:22:43-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: =HT=T-Bird wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 15:29 LOL have ANY of you been able to snipe reliably at long range with a PIC or Rav? Hint hint... depends on the day.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-08-28T22:38:38-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: some of the kills were are bit laggy but he was recording with fraps at about 20FPS so its understandable.. somethign must be wrong with my renegade though.. i get worse flickering than he was makes it impossible for me to play anymore
creator: Majiin Vegeta
date: 2005-08-28T23:03:38-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Fucking hell, you people saying it's just lag--- NO. I played with 20 fps back in the day or worse. FPS doesn't suddenly allow you to shoot to the side of somebody for a kill! Hits are detected client-side as far as I've ever been aware, hence why bighead works. The FPS is lower only because of the recording, but the ping and SFPS and KBPS are FINE throughout the entire movie. Who here has ever seen somebody slowly walking along a wall? Or killed them? That's called a lag kill, and you still have to HIT them according to your system for it to count. If you miss them, it still counts as a miss.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-28T23:11:00-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I have hit people when seemingly the shot strayed to the side.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-08-28T23:20:05-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Consistently and to that much of an extreme, during lagless conditions where neither sfps, ping, or data transfer are near lag-inducing? Where I come from, we need to hit the player to inflict damage.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-28T23:36:13-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Chronojam wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 19:36 Consistently and to that much of an extreme, during lagless conditions where neither sfps, ping, or data transfer are near lag-inducing? Where I come from, we need to hit the player to inflict damage. Not necessarily, if you can know where to shoot when your lagging, then you can kill people while lagging and they cant kill you cuz ure skipping all over the place, trust me, ive seen and i can do it.
creator: Renerage
date: 2005-08-29T00:39:48-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Hmm. How's this. A sakura is warping about .5m back and forth, to the right of her original start position. You aim about 2m to the *left* of her start position and shoot at the air, and get a kill. Wait a second. No, that isn't supposed to happen.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T01:01:51-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I almost got a kill like that. Then i shot about 1.9m to the right, and popped the player. Then another sniper killed me. No, wait, that was a STank.
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-08-29T01:22:02-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: the only problem with, say, lowering the damage for the ramjet is that they won't be able to do anything against a copter. for example, a deadeye won't kill a copter if the copter is somewhat good. Though it wouldn't be that bad of an idea because then it would be copter versus copter - but you'd be screwed if your team doesn't have a decent copter. It takes two reloads to kill a copter with a ramjet, or two ramjets - moving it to three reloads would probably give no chance to the sniper. Although of course it'd be better for me if teh sniper damage was lowered to be honest it doesn't mean much. The only problem is Walls_Flying because you're going to see mostly 3 snipers and it's pretty impossible getting by.
creator: Sniper_De7
date: 2005-08-29T01:25:08-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Do you all really care so much as to make it into a formal argument?
creator: XeonTeam
date: 2005-08-29T04:48:30-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Nope. That's why it's not in Hot Topics.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T04:56:13-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Chronojam wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 21:01 Hmm. How's this. A sakura is warping about .5m back and forth, to the right of her original start position. You aim about 2m to the *left* of her start position and shoot at the air, and get a kill. Wait a second. No, that isn't supposed to happen. I agree with you, people walk into walls, regardless you have to hit the player or else it won't count. Renegade isn't like the battlefield games where you have to anticipate where the player is going to be. You have to hit them. Yeah fraps does make the game lag weirdly but not like that. Really I can't tell if he's cheating for sure, but it sure as hell isn't right. Maybe spoony can clarify what bighead bones is for me :/
creator: Homey
date: 2005-08-29T07:31:34-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: deerwalk wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 00:39 Why would he make a video instead of just booting up renguard..... He uses renguard. Ask for the logs to Mac or Crimson.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-08-29T08:22:54-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I would really like to see these logs myself cause from what i see, that could easily be Big head box cheat being used. There is a large number of shots i can see where the rectile did not even light up yet a perfect headshot is registered on the Stealth black hand especially. As well a few snipes against other sakuras did seem odd, but i do realize while recording with fraps, it may not always display things correctly to the viewer. I Can't see why you would go and ban Chronojam for thinking someone cheated thats pathetic that you don't allow someone to have their own opinion on your forums. If anything id like to see the original video file so i could run some tests lol.
creator: Blazea58
date: 2005-08-29T11:23:26-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I banned him for insulting one of my best friend and other reasons. I warned him before. He didn't listen. He made his choice.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-08-29T12:04:15-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Chronojam wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 21:01 Hmm. How's this. A sakura is warping about .5m back and forth, to the right of her original start position. You aim about 2m to the *left* of her start position and shoot at the air, and get a kill. Wait a second. No, that isn't supposed to happen. Not supposed to happen, but with everyone's different computer speeds, you cant really do much at all....
creator: Renerage
date: 2005-08-29T13:06:16-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Put yourself in his shoes when he was video taping that movie. If he was actually using cheats then he would know that he was. There for he wouldnt put a clip where it looks like hes shooting slightly to the right of the sakkys head in the video. Am i right? The guys not cheating he just owned a few people...Who the fuck cares...i mean honestly...
creator: IceSword7
date: 2005-08-29T13:46:19-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: ok... i think i made lot of problems with my video. 1st: i did this video cause i just had "FRAPS" and that i wanted to use it, and try to make my first "movies" after that, it's true i use clear scope (that i took at cnc ammo long time ago) , i diidn't consider it as a cheat (like big head or anything of that kind) and i never hided the fact that i was using it (as u can see in the video) (and for some funny reason i thought it was better for the style to put head shot video than video of me being sniped to death... ) 2: im not that good, i know it, and i don't care(if i really wanted to prove something i wouldn't have put video with some stand still or zoom head shot)(the easyer to record). i didn't do this video to prove anything so what's the problem, no one like head shot? who am i bad with by making this video? those who complain are not even in it... 3: i don't use anything else than clear scope. no aimbot lol or things like that. nothing can prove it, so whatever it's the same for evryone no? if i had aimbot i would surely say something like " HEY chronojam!! u looking for shit?? u wana snipe me???? 1VS1!!!!!" (but i keep that for sniperde7 ^^) 4 if some time u feel i shoot not in the head, maybe that's cause this movies was recorded with 30 frames/sec (i think) to lower the weight of the files. after that it's true that making the video slow u'r game a little. anyway i do'nt have to give any special explanation i just recorded the game that's all... 5: if clear scope is considered as cheat evry skin should be too (it was in the skin area at cnc ammo) (like poeple who see stealth unit in a blink of an eye). but since i not play on a pure server i don't know where is the problem. 6:i don't know why guys such as chronojam say that kind of thing to me. i don't even know u,... or maybe i sniped u b4? 7: it seem that u all really enjoyed my video(lol) so i arrenged it with music and all... (you'll love it chrono) u can see it here http://media.putfile.com/SansTit…
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T15:41:45-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: First of all, who would make a video to prove that he doesn't cheat and actually cheat on it? I know Darkside, he's a damn good sniper, and he would not record a movie where he cheated. To whoever mentioned the word "n00bjet": Go eat a banana. The Ramjet is a bit overpowered against Copters, but that's another story.
creator: zeph
date: 2005-08-29T17:19:39-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: First off in reguards to him cheating he is running a clear scope so as far as I am concerned the debate stops there and he is cheating. As for the power of a ramjet, I could go on for paragraphs about how it's not overpowered but I don't have the time or the energy for that.
creator: luv2pb
date: 2005-08-29T17:36:15-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: With the clearscope, I think he's only cheating by removing the black area -- he's able to see more while zoomed than normally. Removing the green tint just removes the most annoying part of sniping ever.
creator: Kanezor
date: 2005-08-29T17:38:02-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Renardin has taken this topic I've posted here as grounds to ban me from the Reborn forum, without consulting the rest of the team he's part of. Let's give a cheer for Renardin. [Dead-6 Guy i didn't do this video to prove anything so what's the problem, no one like head shot? "Renardin" My mate Darkside, people think he cheats. So he made the video: http://media.putfile.com/SansTitre_000252 Pure ownage! Somebody is lying to us. I would call making a video in response to being accused of cheating to aquit yourself as 'doing a video to prove something' ... And YES, people do consider certain kinds of textures CHEATING. See also "stealth skins" and "bright red heads" and "neon enemy snipers" ... Saying people don't frown on this (outright lies!) does not make what you do any better, and it makes it worse since you had to lie about it anyway. And no, you've never killed me, I've only seen you in a server maybe twice. And I don't do 1v1. 1v1 is gay. Refer to my sarcastic "omg 1v1" post.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T17:42:23-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: what does it have anything to do with "hammer head sakura" i killed? if u think clear zoom it's a cheat ok. i'll accept it. but don't say things like i use aimbot or things like that (it makes me feel pretty strong lol) ho and u were tolking about successive head shot... if u look well on the time of the map u can see it's not right after( i don't use only noob jet)... it's what we call make a movie....some moment of the map i puted together.... i wanted to do this video i explained why on the post why. if it could show people i not cheat it was cool with me. but now i get treated of cheater... nah really who are u against with? me or the one u can't smell renardin? anyway is the problem here really? in u'r question? u lost argument? i admit some was lucky head shot anyway... the problem is not here ...
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T17:56:49-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Have you downloaded the video and watched every kill frame by frame? Download it and watch it frame by frame. Pay special attention to when the ammo count gets decremented. If the reticle is red at the same time, then it's a hit. If it's not, then it's a miss. Obviously, if it's a hit in thin air... I have yet to do it myself because the movies are in wmv format, which has no *real* player and no *real* editor for free. Fuck you for that, Mr. DarKsidE. Get me an AVI version and I can try it myself.
creator: Kanezor
date: 2005-08-29T18:02:07-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: i can give u the video where ever u like...(msn...) really i don't know what u all talk about guys...if the guy die it's that i hit him lol... what's so odd about it... so the problem is not the reticle it's obviously the fact that u think i cheat with something else.... really nooby... anyway f*** u too. no reason. i posted it in avi at the video site. download it or something.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T18:06:32-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: I don't get half the shit you post. The guy we smell, Renardin? What the *fuck* ? Anyway, at least not be a douche, and actually give a link. Don't just say "I posted it on a video site!!" and expect us to search the web for it without even a name to look for.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T18:15:00-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: lOL but i don't fucking know how to do (i have a site but i can only put picture)!!!! i just posted this video on a site that is hosting video!!! that's all here : http://media.putfile.com/SansTitre_000573 do with it download it i don't know, make as u please... if u wana get the original one ive got it, but how can i send it to u? by mmsn? anyway u wanted to make me ban from server if they are non pure server u'r not alowed to do that.if i don't break the rules m8... nah reallly what u got against me??? u'r kinda strange...reallly to wana go that far... ho and sorry for my english i don't have the luck to talk as good as u... but well each time i answer something to u'r question u change subject... read u'r self... u never answered mine... except for the dual things...(surprised me lol) i alreday admited for the scope ok, so now whats the problem? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? say it clealry i'll try to answer clearly too.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T18:28:33-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: That's still the WMV, you silly. Contact me on MSN, kane@clan-mac.com. MSN is crap for sending files (especially large ones), but I can set you up a place that you can send it quickly and I can get it easily.
creator: Kanezor
date: 2005-08-29T18:34:32-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Alright, I think you're French so I won't fault your English, but try this. Type it up in French and feed it through a translator.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T18:34:43-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: lol chrono... so lame answer... u still skeep my question... really u not understand me? u sure? i guess it was in wm format sorry guy told ya im not good with comp, whatever i can send it!!!!! (you read that?) so try to answer my questions and not skip it. u can team up i don't care m8 i know how i play. i know i don't cheat (ok eccept for the zoom thing if ya want) so im not afraid of u waaching the video aver and over.....
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T18:38:51-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: I really am not sure some of the ideas and concepts you're trying to convey, *honestly*. I haven't gotten much sleep and even listening to people speak aloud my own language has been a bitch this week. What is the question you want answered?
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T18:45:09-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: sent u a mail kenzor
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T18:45:32-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: u got a hand? got a mouse? scroll up at my 2 last post ther's questions like : "u obviously think i cheat with something else don't u?" ther's some other too just read m8 u'r tired but not tired to say such stupidity 'bout me and seing me as a cheater (OKOK eccept about the zoom) just explain u'r point of view till the end.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T18:48:20-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: and like the fact that u wana ban me if u see me... things like that...
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T18:51:07-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: I think something is vastly wrong with collision detection on your system, as I have never seen such awful collision detection. I've seen this game played in tons of conditions by tons of players, and played under tons of conditions on tons of servers. I have missed kills by mere pixels of distance, but you can go an entire on-screen inch away and manage to earn a kill. This fact leads me to believe something is wrong with your client, or it is loading the wrong data. I believe your client is purposely using incorrect data in order to provide an unfair advantage. I notice you said the word aimbot a few times, I never did say it though.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T18:56:12-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: on the reborn forum u said that : http://cncreborn.planetcnc.gamespy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t =594&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=1a 390eeccc6496bfccb9b39d6f0f935f Ah. So first, he uses a n00bjet. That's my first tipoff that he's not good. Second, he's zooming with the n00bjet. Wow. I can't believe the skills he has. It's incredible. Third, not even just taking off the green, but removing all of the black? Come on, niggatron! Fourth, killing a Raveshaw, while zoomed in that close, with a n00bjet.. HE f*cking MISSED THE FIRST SHOT EASILY... Then shot to the side of the engineer for a kill? This after shooting far to the right of the sakura for a kill. Actually, that's because your friend is USING A CHEAT! Note the relative position of his weapon to the kill in each shot. Notice that laterally, he always tends to have a bigger target? Instead of a round head, all the heads have an invisible BUT COLLISION DETECTING boundary existing in a rectangular prism.. think of how a hammerhead shark looks versus any other shark. Your friend is essentially attacking hammerhead humans, but the 'hammer' is invisible. The deadeye versus sakura shot CLEARLY shows this, undeniably. I think I'll provide this link on Renforums so that everybody can ban this jackass. If I ever see him in any of the servers I mod or temp-mod in, he's gone. Then, he shoots behind a sakura for a kill.. heh. And then he shoots FAR to the side another sakura isn't even warping to, and gets a kill. This is after the APCs. THEN shoots FAR to the right of a black hand sniper. Then even FARTHER to the left of a sakura. The n00bjet headshot versus the non-warping SBH is ridiculous as well. The reticle isn't even red when he 'headshots' the black hand in the tunnel, and it's nowhere near the target. f*cking cheater your friend is. sorry i talked about aimbot it's the only way with big head i heared about to cheat... but as u can see in u'r other post ther's lot of cheating talk no? (my my im right!!) second u…
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T19:15:28-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: ho yeah by the way look at this when i don't do head shot. http://media.putfile.com/SansTitre_000415 if u can see some cheat here too....
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T19:32:29-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: lol me again... im not taking this as an excuse but... look: http://media.putfile.com/css_hit_b0x_bb maybe the same for renegade no??? maybe yeah maybe no... whatever i say it again, it's not an excuse.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T19:35:43-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Stop the spam. Convert the movies to AVI.
creator: Kanezor
date: 2005-08-29T19:39:26-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: [Dead-6 Guy second u liar now u say my comp is the problem.. i purposely tryed to change the data or something...(LOL WE ARE NOT IN A MOVIE OR MATRIX) u change u'r mind all the time man.... i got a normal computer a normal game ... and now u making excuse of this ??? is that u'r reason???? u came so far for this???? to tell me my data is fucked up so i got advantage or something.... lol....man.... u simply suck. (u got no argument, u got nothing eccept the fact that i used the zoom thing) really find another explanation. i'll send the video to u'r friend (kenzor can u send me a message again please??) Holy fucking shit. Not to flame you outright, but you are incredibly retarded. I can't help but flame you for your second batch of triple posting and lack of comprehension. Holy SHIT you are stupid. Okay, there, that's done. Business time. Actually you'll be flamed as I go along, because you've earned it. You're right, jackpipe, we're not in a movie or the Matrix. We're in a world where our C&C games will load local data in preference to monolithic MIX formatted files. That includes cheating aids of several sorts. Including your precious 100%-clear-scope, unless somehow you figured out how the fuck to add it to the always.dat MIX.. and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't know how and wouldn't be able to even if I wrote it up in 4 languages, including in picture-book form. I haven't changed my damn mind a single time. I say you're a cheater here, I say you're a cheater there. You have Renardin's same psychological disorder where you think that just because I post the SAME THING TWO PLACES that suddenly it means I've changed my mind. What the fuck kind of thinking is that? A normal computer and normal game eh? Which of many processors is normal to you? Which OS? Which version of Renegade.. CP1? CP1 beta? RenGuard in there? Nonstandard skins? I'm nitpicking here, I know, but it's still a valid point-- you clearly have an entirely different experience when you play than anybody w…
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-29T19:45:36-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: lol... giving such explanation... ban me despise me... do as u wish... u won't " ever" change the fact that i only used reticle zoom. u'r out of argument guys (again)... i simply didn't cheat that's all. i have nothing to hide and will give the video to as much people as i can so they can see if i "cheat" and u'r talking about renardin again lol... it look how much rageous u are... man... what happened between u2? ho and sorry i never actually posted on a forum... so i don't know the rules... if 3 msg are spamming im sorry then... but im sure "YOU"'r the only one who's concerned with that video, and nearly the only one who complain about it. fine, think whatever... but u know it better than me : u'r wrong. and u won't admit it. i admited for the zoom reticle cause i was not hiding it. but u? won't u ever admit that u'r wrong on this? the only fact is : i use reticle zoom . and u do all that for this and nothing else... (maybe cause renardin is my friend too lol) anyway we 're getting nowhere...do as u wish. i just hope u liked the video anyway... isn't the boink sound great? (i realy hope to see u on a server someday... i promise u (if u'r so afraid about my "cheat" or my "advantage computer" i won't snipe.)
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T19:58:23-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Open the videos in Windows Movie Maker, it will allow you to view the WMV files frame-by-frame. You'll note that he does miss about four or five times... But, when he kills, the reticle was either red on the same frame that the ammo ammount changed or was red on the previous frame (indicating that the shot fired between frames, possibly?) In my opinion, he either has excellent reflexes and is NOT cheating (well, except for the questionable clearscope skin), or is using a clickbot. It's notable that he does seem to have a fair amount of lag though... but as you'll note in the FPS part of the movie, his ping is about 250-300. Being from France, that's understandable. If you do not have Windows Movie Maker but would like to "obtain" it, please contact me privately.
creator: Kanezor
date: 2005-08-29T19:58:41-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: <======i hope u will get this program chronojam... and face the truth... i won't hold any grudge against u... but really why u did all that? (it's a real question)
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T20:01:10-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Renardin6 wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 08:04 I banned him for insulting one of my best friend and other reasons. I warned him before. He didn't listen. He made his choice. You banned him for personal reasons that aren't against the rules and were not approved by the team. The reason was a biased one you made based on emotions that occured since you took Chronojam's accusing personally when it's not a personal thing and happens to people all the time. You never see him or me banning people left and right when someone says "gom chrono hax" or "i dnt believe u haxer lawl". You need to be a bit more professional in your choices and less prone to playing an obscured leader role when you willingly gave that title up in favor for a more artistic role. PS: You insult my best friend all the time, and it's on purpose too. Perhaps you should start practicing what you preach?
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-29T20:18:55-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: i won't say renardin was right by banning him. i won't. but: "i would have done the same thing for a friend "I KNOW" he doesn't cheat". maybe not the right decision i know. but for me someone messing with my friend is like someone messing with me. i don't know how is it where u are but where i live it's like that. if u think renardin banned him only for that think about it... i don't know all the story. im not either with renardin or chronojam on this story... but i just took the fact that chronojam was saying wrongs things about me that's all. and he even want to ban me from server. by the way my wol account is d8a8r8k . if u want to ban me b4 i even come... even if renardin maybe took the wrong decision, he did it for me. and for that... i can say he's a true friend. that's all i need to know.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T20:30:30-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: This might help your understanding a bit more: Chronojam is my fiance.
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-29T20:34:31-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: lol... ok... tell him i not cheat and i got nothing against him... i hope u'll make him happy tonight to forget about this story... i hope he's not the same at home lol... ok i stop this kind of stuff... i really hope he don't hold a grudge against me... would be silly... u who are a girl (usualy girl are more mature than boy) explain him that no one is right or wrong... we all do mistake. but i won't make the one of cheating. it would ruin all the fun to play.... what's the point of wining if u win by cheating? why would i continue to play renegade only for cheating...i mean ther's other's new games... i play for fun... for head shots... and for point whore... i like renegade. it's my game. i won't cheat in it. (ok ok eccept for the reticle...) wish u a good day. lot of children and and.... (how they say in walt disney...) a wonderfull life. ^^ the french guy, u like it or not.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T20:44:51-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: He is a bit bold at times, but I like that =P It means he's sure of who he is unlike a lot of people in this world. It also means I can just have him be brutally honest when me being nice and reasonable to people doesn't quite get the message across clearly. ^_- hehehe
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-29T20:50:17-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: i wanted an happy end for this story.... i got it. thx ... i know what it is to live with people like that... my girl is the same kind... but well... i think that's why i love her... u never get bored with someone like that lol... hope to see u some time on gsa. c ya.
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-29T20:58:50-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: No1. Chill out all its only a game. No2. He does not cheat. Thank You -Coolair-
creator: Coolair
date: 2005-08-29T21:48:40-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: What Coolair said. No reason to get so riled up about this.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-08-29T23:09:47-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Wow cool stuff there. Darkside see as me that you(CJ) always ignore the questions and bring other bullshits... I banned chrono, that's it. I warned him. He didn't listen. End of story. I don't hate him, I prefer him away of our project for some good reasons I don't need to explain. He knows why. Now he can dance, cry, bash, talk... I don't care as long it's away from the project I work on. (The main reason anyway: I don't like you)
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-08-30T00:01:06-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: He doesn't "cry" and "bash", he brings up good points. I am really getting tired of you belittling anyone who ever questions the artistic choices made for Reborn. It's not professional at all. Not only that, but you really can't make ad hominem attacks online and seem intelligent; you can't know someone deep enough to make attacks when all of your knowledge is limited. All of the things you know are based on forum posts which regard artistic choices made for Reborn, so attempting to personally attack someone will only make you seem arrogant in the end. It will make you look worse than the person you're trying to attack, not better.
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T00:22:26-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: You warned me not to post on Renforums (lol?!) after I already had posted here. 19 hours after I posted here, you warned me not to post here. And now you're using that as an excuse to ban me without the consent of the rest of your supposed team, of which are you are the texturer.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-30T00:25:51-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: A real man doesn't need a girlfriend for his defense. So honey CJ, I am more pro than what your GF thinks. It's because I am pro that I don't want to lose time with you or your stupid friends on our forum. Because of you or your stupid friends: - We had files leaked. - We had websites hacked. - We had personnal works exposed on the web without any permission from us. - We get and still have bashing with stupid arguments all the time. Read yourself and you will maybe understand. Now about you CJ, only you: - Your arguments are bullshit most of the time. - You never answer my questions or the questions of Darkside when you know you are not right. You change the main subject of the conversation and bring another silly argument. - You insult the work of Reborn. (see reborn forums, your own posts) I don't know a single mod team in the world that would allow such arrogance on their forum. We were too kind with you, now this time is over. You won't come back. - "Remove" le balai que t'as dans le cul et relativise mec! - Your stupid ideas (yeah most of those are stupid considering the Renegade engine) had no other purpose than delay our mod. - Ack is your friend. It tells us a lot. - You aren't welcome anymore on Reborn's place. - You aren't welcome anymore on Reborn's place. - You aren't welcome anymore on Reborn's place. - You aren't welcome anymore on Reborn's place. I don't hate you (I don't like you, hate is something different). I put you away because I don't want to read anymore crap. It's easier and I don't have to delete the posts like you and your friends do at renalert. KTHX (PS: Venompawz: I understand you defend your sweetheart and it's normal. But he has to learn to defend himself on another way than changing subject or hiding behind you.) Chronojam wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 20:25 You warned me not to post on Renforums (lol?!) after I already had posted here. 19 hours after I posted here, you warned me not to post here. And now you're using that as an excus…
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-08-30T00:43:10-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: This isn't the first time bannings were set by him for personal reasons. Renardin once banned me because I said "Renardin is being an asshole to my Chrono" or something very similar to that in #renalert. I then followed it with "You're all pricks", directed at nobody specifically. (I enjoy being random) Now Renardin, I'm not gonna hold a grudge or anything, I just am trying to help you be more professional so Reborn's staff looks better to the public. I know you're a good guy but there's been a lot of complaints from people about how you tend to use personal attacks. It makes them think you're not professional, which makes the mod lose some of it's appeal. =/ I also personally feel that I have to walk on eggshells when talking in a public place where you can see. You're not an emotional little kid, you're an adult, and I don't see why you would act like this, honestly. You're serious enough to take things personally, but laid-back enough to use insults. It confuses me.
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T00:47:40-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: And no, he didn't tell me to "defend" him. I found this on my own and decided to post on my own. Although you might think females are just mindless objects to control, we're not. Thanks.
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T00:49:27-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Renardin6 wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 20:43 A real man doesn't need a girlfriend for his defense. So honey CJ, I am more pro than what your GF thinks. It's because I am pro that I don't want to lose time with you or your stupid friends on our forum. Because of you or your stupid friends: - We had files leaked. Your friends did that. - We had websites hacked. Your friends did that. - We had personnal works exposed on the web without any permission from us. Your friends gave it to AK. - We get and still have bashing with stupid arguments all the time. Read yourself and you will maybe understand. I tell you how to improve, everybody agrees, you ignore it. Now about you CJ, only you: - Your arguments are bullshit most of the time. Wrong. Prove it. - You never answer my questions or the questions of Darkside when you know you are not right. You change the main subject of the conversation and bring another silly argument. I didn't know what the fuck your friend was saying, he has the English skills of a first grader.I explained how he could improve this (write in French then translate) , but like you he ignored this helpful advice. I asked him to state his questions over, and answered those that he stated over more clearly. - You insult the work of Reborn. (see reborn forums, your own posts) I don't know a single mod team in the world that would allow such arrogance on their forum. We were too kind with you, now this time is over. You won't come back. Your work needs insulting sometimes. You don't get it otherwise and just dismiss things, unless somehow the thread draws massive attention so you can't just deny the changes need to be made. - "Remove" le balai que t'as dans le cul et relativise mec! Chingate? - Your stupid ideas (yeah most of those are stupid considering the Renegade engine) had no other purpose than delay our mod. You blamed me for leaks I wasn't around for. You blamed me for team members leaving. You claimed I brainwashed people. You now claim that I am …
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-30T00:54:53-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: Hell, it's not even how he treats you specifically, Chronojam. The problem is how he treats people in general. The way he acts towards everyone is rather rude, even when they go out of their way to be polite.
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T00:58:41-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: You both will make your night with that. Have a nice evening. Talk about how I am not a pro, I am an evil person, blah blah blah... It's still crap. No more to say. cya.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-08-30T01:07:22-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
type: item
description: renardin being my boyfriend? lol... sure..... i love him . nah really, isn't it a lame things to say? u'r out of argument again... man... 1) im not cheating, (didn't u download windows movie maker as u were asked?) 2) im not his boy friend. just a friend... what kind of fucking lame things to say is that????? i didn't ask for his help. he gave it to me that's different. but anyway how could someone like u understand such things as frienship....
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-30T01:09:32-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: You're not evil, and I said that in the post above. You just need to work a bit on lashing out, that's all. Everyone has something they need to work on. For example, I need to work on not letting people walk all over me when I'm nice. (Doitle and I actually have a similar thing we need to work on =P)
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T01:09:55-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: [Dead-6 DarKsidE... wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 21:09]renardin being my boyfriend? lol... sure..... i love him . nah really, isn't it a lame things to say? u'r out of argument again... man... 1) im not cheating, (didn't u download windows movie maker as u were asked?) 2) im not his boy friend. just a friend... what kind of fucking lame things to say is that????? i didn't ask for his help. he gave it to me that's different. but anyway how could someone like u understand such things as frienship.... You'd be surprised. =P Chronojam, if anyone, knows a LOT about friendship. That's how we've been together for four years (long distance, even) and are eachothers first loves. Silly... ^_^
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T01:11:45-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Heh, I remember when Renardin IMed me and asked for us to stop hating each other... I agreed, but when I was no longer on SWMOD, I saw him comment on the news about that and he was putting me down. Yeah, thanks, that's mature.
creator: icedog90
date: 2005-08-30T01:14:54-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: im not talking about love/friendship with oposite sex im talking about friendship with another person of the same sex. whatever u give such argument but u'r boyfriend say the contrary wtf is that? who's the silly one? "You'd be surprised. =P Chronojam, if anyone, knows a LOT about friendship" then why he says things like that " Renardin, you need to not defend your cheating boyfriend by warning me not to post 19 hours after I posted and " ??? u should talk together... i think about how lame the situation is getting right here...
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-30T01:21:40-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Quote: vitaminous1: SO HONEY CJ vitaminous1: HELLO CARL JOHNSON ChronoJam: Post that ChronoJam: Sooooo post that vitaminous1: I like how he told you how to get rid of the supposedly broom you have up your ass. ChronoJam: I must have filtered that part out as I read, I don't remember seeing it vitaminous1: IN FRENCH, BECAUSE INSULTING PEOPLE IN A LANGUAGE THEY DON'T USUALLY SPEAK IS TEH ROXORZ vitaminous1: OH NOES FILES LEAKED vitaminous1: IMGS IN PUBLIC FOLDERS = LEAKAGE vitaminous1: Personnal work? PERSONNAL WORK!?! vitaminous1: OH SHIT WE'RE GETTING HACKED IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT ChronoJam: LOL vitaminous1: Silly arguments from Chronojam? SILLY ARGUMENTS? OGM SAYS ANGEL_OF_THE_ANUS JUNIOR vitaminous1: LOLOL STUPID IDEAS, HE COMES UP WITH STUFF TOO INTELLIGENT FOR ME TO COMPREHEND TO IT'S DEFINITELY STUPID. vitaminous1: YOU DON'T HATE HIM, HOPE NOT, BECAUSE YOU'D BE HAVING ISSUES IF YOU HATED SOMEONE FOR SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE ON THE INTERWEB!!!!! ChronoJam: He is so fuuuuuuuucking painfully stupid vitaminous1: "ARROGANCE", GOOD JOB AT COPYING VENOM'S VOCABULARY. vitaminous1: Ack, who the fuck is he? vitaminous1: Reborn doesn't work, nor do you, you just shit over a PSD and turn it into a DDS file. vitaminous1: Nigga ur mamagirl is takin ur defense vitaminous1: U NOT WELCOME CUZ U 2 SMAERT 4 US Now now, Retardin, don't start insulting me in French, you know how it hurts me. :'(
creator: Aprime
date: 2005-08-30T01:23:54-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Venom and Chrono are quite lucky that they have the same interests. Anyway. Ren, I really dont want to seem like a two-faced fucker, But I have to agree with Chronojam. People post suggestions at the Reborn forums, and they just seem ignored by the team's apathy. I can understand that they want to release the mod sometime before Renegade is dead forever, But, Christ. It'd be nice if SOMEBODY acknowledged suggestions. ie:Remove the extras, Remove the laser from the Nod pistol. And I hope the Cyborg is going to be redone. A LOT of people at PPM were disgusted by it. You guys got skills. use them.
creator: EatMyCar
date: 2005-08-30T01:24:01-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Satire, sarcasm, parody, English, sentences, parallelism... all are lost on you I'll assume from this point on, and shy away from using them near you. Edit: To DarkSidE
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-30T01:25:02-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: Reborn amounts to failure. Yep, nothing's changed.
creator: Ryan3k
date: 2005-08-30T01:34:11-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: [Dead-6 DarKsidE... wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 21:21]im not talking about love/friendship with oposite sex im talking about friendship with another person of the same sex. whatever It's not a "romantic" friendship, it's the kind of friendship best friends have. The second you have "romantic" friendship with a girl, you know your relationship isn't going to last long. Like I said in #renalert: "(15:05:56) (@Venompawz) The second you think a relationship is all about the romance, your relationship will start to fail from that point" You need a strong solid friendship in order to stick together. I sure hope you don't think me playing Tiberian Sun with Chronojam is less valid than you playing with Renardin, or even dismiss me killing Chronojam using a Volkov in RenAlert just because I am gonna marry him. I'd rather you dismiss it purely for the fact that I have a lot more armor than him and can get my life back slowly over time. =P Please don't think less of me because I have ovaries. I like being one of the boys when it comes to friendship. u give such argument but u'r boyfriend say the contrary wtf is that? who's the silly one? Chronojam hasn't said anything opposing my posts, all of them have been in regards to Renardin acting oddly hostile. Silly isn't a bad thing to be called, either, silly. =P It's more like a friendly thing. "You'd be surprised. =P Chronojam, if anyone, knows a LOT about friendship" then why he says things like that " Renardin, you need to not defend your cheating boyfriend by warning me not to post 19 hours after I posted and " What does him talking about Renardin have to do with friendship when obviously Renardin doesn't want a friendship of any kind with Chronojam? I know you don't speak English well, so I will explain what Chronojam meant: He basically was mocking Renardin for defending you, his best friend, about cheating and telling me not to defend Chronojam, my best friend. I wasn't even defending him, I was questioning the hostility to…
creator: Venom Pawz
date: 2005-08-30T01:37:47-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: whatever would u do any better in french? what's wrong with trying to speak english... at leat i try to answer u'r question (unlike u) and make my self understable even if it's hard sometime... i see u'r talking about sarcasm... just read my previous post if u'r not blind u'll might see some... i don't despise girl or anything don't use that as an argument, it was just an example... trying to make me say i think girls and boy are not equal? (remember when i said girl are more mature than boy???) i don't thinks ther's something wrong in defending u'r boyfriend... (by the way u'r doing great, maybe better than him) each time i justify my self... ok ok if u want it i hate girls especialy when they are like u. just folowing "boys" and "being a tool" like u said previously... ho yeah i said that cause he used the word "boyfirend" i don't know much about english but i surely know what a boyfriend is... chrono that's the 3rd time u use "my english" that as an argument... who the fuck care... u'r the only one complaining about that again...is my english reallly the problem? lol... don't think so... i'll end by saying this :Renardin and the team listen to the people comments. It's not because someone comes with an idea that they have to follow it. They make their mod and they decide the stuff. They do it for nothing and use a lot of their time... by the way renardin is banned from red alert forum for more than 1 year...and he really... really don't care... tried something to get him back on the renalert forum?? mmm... i guess no... what ever u'll say have a nice night (i hope u'll stil have some power left to be horny after saying all those craps...)
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-30T01:58:37-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: For the fifth fucking time: WRITE IT IN FRENCH TRANSLATE IT ONLINE Not so hard.
creator: Chronojam
date: 2005-08-30T01:59:41-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: lol... here his the exact translation of what i think about u at the moment : "Shut the fuck up" i tried to make no mistake only for u.... lol by the way... u'r again and again... the only one complaining about it....it's so easy to say that... nah really.. (ask some friend to complain about it too!! wud be great!!) and for the "shut the fuck up" i really translated it. but i prefer it in french... "ferme ta gueule"... now u get it??? (i hope)
creator: [Dead-6]DarKsidE...
date: 2005-08-30T02:12:41-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: I removed all bans from Reborn forum. ALL. I think I will just care about my tasks: Modding. What can be more pro than that? I don't know. Have fun.
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-08-30T03:16:24-00:00

Re: Cheater makes a video to prove he doesn't cheat-- heh
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description: [Dead-6 DarKsidE... wrote on Mon, 29 August 2005 22:12]u'r again and again... the only one complaining about it....it's so easy to say that... nah really.. (ask some friend to complain about it too!! wud be great!!) He didnt ask me, but you need to learn this language. I know you French fuckers arent intelligent enough to do anything except cower in fear when someone invades your country, but this language aint that fucking hard, so get off your ass and learn it. Dont try to turn this language into a bitch language like most people and those white mean mean black persons do, either learn it, or take Chrono's advice and translate from a site. I cant understand most of what comes from fuckin posts. French bastard. Now that ive gotten that out of my system for this post... Renardin6 I removed all bans from Reborn forum. ALL. I think I will just care about my tasks: Modding. What can be more pro than that? I don't know. Have fun. Oh, we will. We will indeed. For years to come, were gonna make fun of you for basically giving up the argument, and admitting your wrong. See, by removing all the bans from the Reborn forums, and posting that your gonna just care about your Modding, youve just basically told us that you care what we think, and want us to think your a good person. Guess what? Your not. Your an idiot. Your Modding skills are a hell of alot better than mine, but then again, i dont have enough money to learn any coding, or anything. You think that your Mod is the shit, and that all should bow before your godlike skills because you created it, and blah blah blah, yap yap yap, nobody cares. If you think your so high and mighty, why dont you fucking prove it? I can tell by the way you carry yourself that you think that, so dont deny it. Once you back down from an argument or a fight, you show weakness. If you really had any point to argue, you wouldnt have. If you were smart, you wouldnt admitted that Chrono was correct, and that you werent. Instead you argued like f…
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-08-30T04:22:45-00:00