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im loling at crimson. i post a topic about nothing. i 'could show u bypasses but i know what would happen' and i get banned from rg. GJ CRIMSON. unban me now.. it aint funny, u might think u r, but seriously, UR NOT. jesus i post a topic ot try to get tec unbanned and get banned myself. [09:48] Message from RenGuard: You have been banned by Crimson on 28.07.2005 08:39:46 for DeMoN#GW: "i have ... all the bypasses. i would show u but i thoguht what if something like this happened." guess what? It did.. Goodbye. SEE? ' I WOULD SHOW U' to be honest i cant even actually use he bypasses, i only have screenshots of others using them, i would show u who they were if u wudnt of banned me :/
to be honest, i am sorry 4 whareva i did but i dont see why u be so mean to ban me for that. basically its abuse of admin powers, i didnt do anything worthy of getting banned to be honest did i? i didnt use hax, cheats, try to bypass renguard, i went to join a server and i get banned well gj. tbh i think this is whats klling the amount of servers, ppl are just getting banned for no reason. me and tec r both banned now and why? dunno but plz unban me so i can play me games?
also, as much as i like anti cheating programs, this is going to make more ppl who get banned start cheating, if they cant use anti cheat...then ppl are gona start cheating, soon the tables will turn crimson, im telling you..ppl will take rg off their servers bcoz soon there are going to be more ppl not using rg than there are ppl using it..i wud like to be unbanned, and i am sorry for what i did. i dont cheat, use hacks etc, i just have a short temper, i am aware of that and sorry, please can u unban me and wipe the slate clean?
The standing rule is.. anyone that is withholding information about renguard's security breaches is getting a ban. You bragged about having bypasses, so the case is closed.
wait, i did not brag about having bypasses, and i wasnt with holding information about bypasses, if u would of asked me for the screenshots i would of sent u to them as fast as u can say pino colada. but u banned me? thats not really fair is it? coz now i cant play on rg servers and clan wars, and u dont get the info that could help u? if u would of just asked...but no u just ban me The reason i did not show u the screenshots is because of what happened to tecstacy, but at the end of the day, it did, and i could of/ and still will show u screens of how ppl bypass renguard even tho u banned me, jsut coz really u guys are trying to do a good job, and i got caught up in the wrong moment..
Always think before you speak...
Quote: i could show the renguard network lots of bypasses, i have screens in my documents with all the bypasses. i would show u but i thoguht what if something like this happened. You even admit that you could "show the renguard network lots of bypasses" but refused to show them (regardless of any unfounded "fear"). And so as mac stated: Quote: anyone that is withholding information about renguard's security breaches is getting a ban. You have the information, you never presented the information. That is called withholding.
uhuh...i cant show you 'how' to bypass renguard, thats why i njever posted it, i know WHo can bypass renguard is what i meant, ppl said tihnk b4 i speak, but u didnt take my bad english into account..plz can u just unban me?
We have a responsibility to the server owners of the community to keep cheaters off their servers if the server uses RenGuard. We do what we can to only allow legitimate players to use the network. If we have evidence (such as a confession) that a player is cheating while on the RenGuard network, then it's our responsibility to ban them from it until we can find and/or fix the exploit they're using. If you come in here and say "I have tons of bypasses" then you can't reasonably expect us to just LET you keep on doing it, can you?
but listen, i did not say i had tons of bypasses, i said i have screenshots of ppl using bypasses, i dont even no how to even install my new cooler for my cpu, my mates doing it...u really think i could hack rg if im that n00bish? gj, anyway, as i said i have screenshots of ppl using the bypasses on a cd, i dont no how the hell they did it but i was just saying...to let u no..plus i didnt take the screens, they were sent to me...they could of been done in photoedit or anything, plz unban me?
What exactly does your picture show, and why haven't you posted it here yet?
it just shows someone getting through renguard with bighead on,to be honest i didnt think it was a big deal until i got banned =/
if you knew of security breaches in RG you should have sent your concerns in a PM to an RG developer, so any potential exploiters of those holes would not see them. I think the answer to this whole topic is, as goztow said, think about how your post could be interpreted before you post it. EDIT: I have also seen an ss of someone using bh with rg on, but I suspect the ss was edited to look like someone had hacked RG, which was why I didnt forward it to the RG team.
Well since some retards couldent understand my last post and jsut flamed insted of lsitening. I ddi not brag abotu ti either and i offer to show you gusy and the same thnig happend hmmm
Yea its kinda sad that renegade has gotten to this point. That and it aitn hard to get yourself unbanned. Like seriously we try and help the game and we get treated like shit, told that we brag about ti after we give them all the info and get marked a cheater and then get flamed. Sad jsut sad you all need to leave your comp and face the real world i beat half of the ppl here harldy play ren anymore.
well, the ppl that actually still like playing ren like me, and you i think actually want to play ren without cheaters, and somehow we get banned, for 'witholding information i was willing to give if u just asked' and the cheaters still run around the public ren servers using the same bypasses day in day out...well all i can say is GJ?
demon|gw wrote on Sat, 30 July 2005 12:57 if u just asked We shouldnt have to. This isnt something that you can blackmail us about, you should always come up front with something you think is a cheat, and not withhold it. This is why you got banned, you withheld information.
Simply put, you didnt tell them quick enough, or thought you were caught so you were banned. Big deal go cry to somewhere who has sympathy for you cuz u aint findin it here.
wtf lijitsu or w.ever the hell ur name is....I DONT KNOW HOW TO BYPASS RENEGADE, HENCE I DID NOT MAKE A TOPIC OVER IT, GJ M8? what i said was i have screenshots of all the bypassers, and then u shud just say post them. GJ read the other posts b4 u start getting ur knickers in a twist kay?
demon|gw wrote on Sat, 30 July 2005 19:54 wtf lijitsu or w.ever the hell ur name is....I DONT KNOW HOW TO BYPASS RENEGADE, HENCE I DID NOT MAKE A TOPIC OVER IT, GJ M8? what i said was i have screenshots of all the bypassers, and then u shud just say post them. GJ read the other posts b4 u start getting ur knickers in a twist kay? Its Lijitsu with a capital "L" and you still with held information from the Black Hand Studios people. Also, on a side note, i go Commando.
How was it withholding information on my part sure i tryed it out in my own locked server then right after i had found out it worked i went to the irc channel. so how is that withholding?
What tec is saying is that he tried it on his server, and went to tell BHS about it so they could fix it in an update.
Yea basically thats the qist of it then i got banned for withholding info even thought after i amde sure it worked on my own locked full rg server to make sure i wouldent be wasting there time
Well i told you about the bypass and said the site on irc i dditn withhold and why should people be cooperative after we get treated like this.
lol tec ur right, i dont think many other will post info about bypassers etc now
Okay let me summarise this conversation: Mm klik w'tappend wz i gt som picz f ppl cheetn wiv rengard on n i mayd a fol omself b sayn tht i hd infomtin bt i didn lik n den yuo band me evn tho u i sed i hdnt lik gt ne bypass lik n den yu sed i was wivholdn infmayshun den i didnt say i ad lik som pics evn tho i did lik n den t'all wen rong n i gt bannd n stuf fr cheetin evn tho i dnt lik bt yu think i do so am lik wtf?
im not even going to try and read that lmao, but yea DJM does have a point
basically what he is asking if having pictures/knowledge of a bypass but not actully having the bypass would get you banned and yes it does it happend in demons cash alsoi would liek to nkow if im a cheater then why would i bring the bypass to the attention of rg?
Tecstasy wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 21:11 basically what he is asking if having pictures/knowledge of a bypass but not actully having the bypass would get you banned and yes it does it happend in demons cash alsoi would liek to nkow if im a cheater then why would i bring the bypass to the attention of rg? Because your an idiot. Though atleast your more intelligent than kinghigh1.
A quick search of my irc logs... RenGuard logs: [13:31:00] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [13:32:13] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [13:33:29] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has unknown files in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [13:35:08] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [13:36:56] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [13:37:57] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [13:39:01] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [14:20:38] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has unknown files in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [14:21:43] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [21:04:30] [KICK]_Tecstasy_OZ_ has been caught cheating on Smoker'sLounge1.037oz[RG] (game2.exe) [21:07:30] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). [21:07:31] _Tecstasy_OZ_ has a bad file in his renegade directory (game2.exe). #bhs_support logs: [15:40:10] [Tecstasy]: if you want to see what im talknig abou [15:40:15] [Tecstasy]: ** removed cheat site link ** --- [15:59:17] [Tecstasy]: not skins [15:59:19] [Tecstasy]: i used bh [15:59:21] [Tecstasy]: and kamakzie [15:59:25] [Tecstasy]: in a full rg server [15:59:31] [Tecstasy]: to see if it actualy worked --- [15:45:27] [Tecstasy]: Glad to see the rg team fixed the bypass [15:45:35] [Tecstasy]: to suposubbly was fixed a motnh ago [15:46:19] [Tecstasy]: Good work guys trying to keep it under wraps i nkow how you cant stand the fact that your shitty programers [15:46:24] ::: Part: (Tecstasy) (tecstasy.d@n00b-4C2B491C.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Wonder why he was banned yet?
I LOVE LOGS Some IP's would be nice too, to add to my banlist ...
Think he will shut up now...? Never mind, i knew the answer to that as soon as i said it.
hi guys, can one of u important ppl private message me, i have found a way to indefinitely get round rg, lots of ppl are using it and u need to fix it pm me asap!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont want to put how to do it here for obvious reasons..so pm me ________ DeMoN!
Just shut up, you were banned. It isn't the end of world.
wtf? im asking to tell the rg team about a bypass, why dont u stfu if u dont know whats going on, this is an A to B conversation, so C ur selfout. bye.
demon|gw wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 09:43 wtf? im asking to tell the rg team about a bypass, why dont u stfu if u dont know whats going on, this is an A to B conversation, so C ur selfout. bye. He is B, dipshit. Hes B, im C, DJM is D and AircaftKiller is E.
jesus, u guys are making a big issue over the fact that i need someone IMPORTANT to speak to me.
demon|gw wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 10:04 jesus, u guys are making a big issue over the fact that i need someone IMPORTANT to speak to me. I am important. Im very important. Im the only person currently posting comics on my clan's site. So HA!
C{I}A. Color{Initial}Animal. Works like this: My name is Purple{T}Magpie.
You don't need us to PM you... the system will let you PM one of us without receiving a message first.
post the chat longs very good still dosent get aroudn the fact that the bypass was never suppsoed to work in the firs tplace accoriding to you
Yes, that's right... I (who didn't code the app OR the master servers) thought that a file was scanned that wasn't being scanned properly. We did, in fact, fix the bug and no one has been able to use an altered game2.exe to connect to the network since. The "new" exploit that we are aware of and have duplicated, is similar, but NOT the same. It uses the same concept of the altered game2.exe but goes about kinda-sorta fooling the system differently. However, no one should EVER trust someone as not cheating when they are "Idle". EVER. It's only when you are listed on a server that your connection is protected to the maximum. Show me one app with this complexity that never had a bug or exploit and I'll give you $100. Otherwise, quit being an asshole.
Complexity shoudlent you have bene ontop of this already you guys said you were always trying to think of ways yourself thatbrg could be bypassed so you could fix them beforethey came out and if your sick of me psoting why havent you banned me from your fourms yet
I don't completely understand your broken english, but we did consider this particular exploit and we did intend to scan the file... it was merely a bug which has been fixed. They happen all the time on any software project. It's quite apparent you have never programmed anything, so you can't possibly understand. I haven't banned you because I am not a pussy who has to ban you because I can't win an argument. I'm not afraid of anything your ignorant fingers can attempt to type out, so I have no need to remove you.
Crimson wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 14:51 I don't completely understand your broken english, but we did consider this particular exploit and we did intend to scan the file... it was merely a bug which has been fixed. They happen all the time on any software project. It's quite apparent you have never programmed anything, so you can't possibly understand. I haven't banned you because I am not a pussy who has to ban you because I can't win an argument. I'm not afraid of anything your ignorant fingers can attempt to type out, so I have no need to remove you. ...Burn. Big burn... Bonfire burn.
Crimson wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 12:47 Yes, that's right... I (who didn't code the app OR the master servers) thought that a file was scanned that wasn't being scanned properly. We did, in fact, fix the bug and no one has been able to use an altered game2.exe to connect to the network since. The "new" exploit that we are aware of and have duplicated, is similar, but NOT the same. It uses the same concept of the altered game2.exe but goes about kinda-sorta fooling the system differently. However, no one should EVER trust someone as not cheating when they are "Idle". EVER. It's only when you are listed on a server that your connection is protected to the maximum. Show me one app with this complexity that never had a bug or exploit and I'll give you $100. Otherwise, quit being an asshole. um, was u callin me an asshole , ijust tried to post something useful :S
exactly i thought rg was supposed to be on top of this shit but i guess not as i know this has been going on for a long time and any claims usually get dismissed. Also with the game2 thing i was testing it on my own server to see if it worked
wow tec, perfectly readable english :D:D:D:D =P
It's so these "Smart" people can fully understand they can not read errors.
demon|gw wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 13:42 um, was u callin me an asshole , ijust tried to post something useful :S No, that was directed at Tecstasy. Thank you, Tecstasy for a more legible reply. Forgive me for not understanding what "Complexity shoudlent you have bene ontop of this already" means. Once again, you have absolutely no clue what we deal with, what we hear, and what we do all day with regards to RenGuard. 99% of what we hear is "omg he headshot me cheat0r ban him!" and just saying "I saw someone using FR in a full RenGuard server" isn't anywhere NEAR enough to even think about starting to find out how they did it. Now that we've been provided with a starting point, we are working actively on the problem. It all stems back to the fact that you are NOT a programmer and therefore you have no frame of reference in this at all. Just your desires as a gamer.
It is true: RG sucks! Yes, because they only achieved what noone else ever could before and they do what noone else is willing to do and they just pay for it out of their own pocket, which is completely normal! And i think more people like tectasy should come here and tell them how their work sucks because cheaters have found a way passed it, which will be fixed in some days but which the RG-people should have dreamed off before cheaters even thought of it ow and they should hire Madame Trudy with her magical future reading mental capabilities. Lucky we have people like Tectasy telling us this! Now to get to the point: if you ain't gonna say anything more useful... shut up, plz...
lol . crimson was the private message about the bypass any good or was it already fixed?
We already know about it... we weren't able to actually cheat with the exploit but we're going to do what we can to prevent the part of the exploit that someone has apparently figured out...
i think demon is still trying...although in vain...to get his ban lifted..I dont even kno why anyone wastes time on this idiot. Btw, learn english, every thing youve typed here has had multiple errors. How hard is it to take 5 seconds to spell check?
If he has done nothing wrong, it is his right to try to get an unban... I don't see how you should interfear with it. It's something between crimson and him.
I understand that but still...it just irratates me to see people bitch and moan alot. Why do they have to do it in a forum? cant they do it in PM? or email?
if you don't like the topic, don't reply in it.
lmao i just got told
cheekay77 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 05:56 i think demon is still trying...although in vain...to get his ban lifted..I dont even kno why anyone wastes time on this idiot. Btw, learn english, every thing youve typed here has had multiple errors. How hard is it to take 5 seconds to spell check? so what wud u do to try to get urself unbanned? flame at them? no, if u help thme out, maybe they can help u out. and tbh, IM ENGLISH. more english than ull ever be. gj _____________________ DeMoN#GW
Just because you are ENGLISH does not mean ure english is good. and no, i would never have to wry about that, i would never try to bypass or brag about bypassing to begin with gj
i didnt try to bypass/brag about bypassing, why u think im pissed off about being banned? trust me my english is better than urs,i got A in my english final exam, 2 marks away fomr a* gj.
form? oh yea, dunt wry i beleive your a "pro" in english. And yea u bragged about having SS of the bypassers.
No, hes a fool. But other then that, im done
Wow your still saying we braged about it how is it braging if you offerd to show them i did not make the bypass. I found it tested it out and it worked and went straight to there irc channel. I told them and thoese quotes about the cheats was because he said the bot was down when it wasnt i was testing its a shame you cant get past your egos.
cheekay77 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 10:14 Just because you are ENGLISH does not mean ure english is good. and no, i would never have to wry about that, i would never try to bypass or brag about bypassing to begin with gj Dude, you seriously couldnt tell him off about having good "english." Look at yours. Tectstasy, your getting better with your spelling and punctuation. Add in a few commas, and you shouldnt be flamed at all for grammar.
Pretty sad that the only thing they can flame me on is grammer and not the actual subject.
I wasnt flaming tec. but half of the things Demon says are spelled incorrectly and its sometimes make me wonder whut he meant.
btw, whuts wrong with my english, i explained this that i use abbreviations and "different" words on the internet.
cheekay77 wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 18:57 btw, whuts wrong with my english, i explained this that i use abbreviations and "different" words on the internet. why do you do it? is saying "whut" any easier than "what"? Or do you just want to be like everyone else and do whatever they do. Aside the point... If you're going to make-fun of someone elses writing you should at the very least make yours correct. It's like teacher teaching something wrong. "You're typing this wrong. But using abbreviations and using non-words as substitutes for real words is right" They're both fucking wrong. Also, can we like.. get this guy banned for spamming? dude posts in every topic every day and i don't think there's a time where i don't see him somewhere on the front page. Not to mention bringing back 5 year old topics
Hey i know your right about the english, but spamming? Come on, i leave this page open, so yea i post im topics, but thats whut they here for even if they are older. Theres no rule that says "dont bring up old posts" Besides the ones i bring up, i only reply to them if someone has said something in the past few days.
You bumped a topic today that the last message (before you bumped it) was on Fri, 15 July 2005 19:51 and now it's August 3rd. And by the way. There is no rule on not typing correctly either. Does that give you any the more reason to harp on other people's english (even if yours is bad, too?) No there is no rules on it, but it doesn't make it any the more better
a topic that is 2-3 weeks old can not be considered old if the problem hasnt been solved, and ok fine, ill stop bitching about the english.
you said: "you know kinghigh no one here likes you"(when he was already banned anyways) I guess that solved the "problem" Just to let you know there actually is a rule about posting to get a new rank. You registered like June and you already have 160 or something posts. and yes i call them spam because right after you said "you know kinghigh no one here likes you" someone told you he was already banned. and then you replied "o i didn't know" Well of course you didn't know - why would you need a post implying that you didn't know when we could tell you didn't know?
Would it make you feel better if i told you that YOU ALREADY WON THIS ARGUEMENT? Like hell, im not even going to fight this anymore.
Sniper_De7 wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 10:58 you said: "you know kinghigh no one here likes you"(when he was already banned anyways) I guess that solved the "problem" Just to let you know there actually is a rule about posting to get a new rank. You registered like June and you already have 160 or something posts. and yes i call them spam because right after you said "you know kinghigh no one here likes you" someone told you he was already banned. and then you replied "o i didn't know" Well of course you didn't know - why would you need a post implying that you didn't know when we could tell you didn't know? Have you looked at my Post Count & Join Date? Ive got over 300 and i joined THIS YEAR. Edit: 400 not 300.
Lijitsu wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 11:08 Have you looked at my Post Count & Join Date? Ive got over 300 and i joined THIS YEAR. Edit: 400 not 300. Stop spamming plzkthx.
I dont spam, but once in awhile. Most of my posts are opinions and such.
Wow I thought I posted too much but you have got half as many posts in a year less.
Which means that you also could be considered a spammer
Actually, since DJM has been here over a year, his post count is about right. However, since ive been since April, which is only about 5 months back, mines just a tad off. Ive got over 400 posts, and ive only been here for five months. I didnt even post a whole lot when i first joined, maybe about 10 in the first month.
ive got like 1600 and I joined a year ago i believe. But thats just because I spam. Much like this post
gbull wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 05:15 ive got like 1600 and I joined a year ago i believe. But thats just because I spam. Much like this post I just got a new spam picture. Well alot of them, actually, but this ones pretty good.
So I hear Demon|gw got banned from renguard!
really...imagine that....
Imagine the spam that shouldn't be here and took away from the actual topic.
Tecstasy wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 21:18 Imagine the spam that shouldn't be here and took away from the actual topic.
DJM wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 12:22 So I hear Demon|gw got banned from renguard! it took u 4 pages of writing to realise? wow. _______________ DeMoN#GW
Quote: You Sir, are an idiot
thanx crimson, u can delet this and my other topic if u want? bye thanx all ur help guys ^.^
Assuming this aint sarcasm, you actually got unbanned? (i know someones gunna say something about this post...) *cough*DJM*cough*