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FireOx | Opera
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description: Awhile back I remember there being a topic on which is better. I have been thinking of getting FireOx...BUT some people I have talked to told me to get opera. I have heard that Opera increases download speeds, but FireOx is faster surfing the web. So what would be the better choice?
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2005-06-17T21:26:06-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: deadfive wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 17:26 Awhile back I remember there being a topic on which is better. I have been thinking of getting FireOx...BUT some people I have talked to told me to get opera. I have heard that Opera increases download speeds, but FireOx is faster surfing the web. So what would be the better choice? What is FireOx?
creator: bandie63
date: 2005-06-17T21:40:24-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: It's Firefox, not FireOx.
creator: bigejoe14
date: 2005-06-17T21:43:42-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: bigjoe14 wrote: It's Firefox, not FireOx. Aircraftkillers twin.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2005-06-17T21:46:10-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/opera/firefox/ Check it out. Tests show Opera is better in almost every aspect.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-17T21:48:27-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Cool, thanks.
creator: Dave Anderson
date: 2005-06-17T21:48:55-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: firefox got nice extensions thats why i like it more then opera and opera got dumb banner
creator: Demolition man
date: 2005-06-17T22:56:08-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Did you make your latest signature in that cool new update for Paint that makes it retard friendly?
creator: Opalkilla
date: 2005-06-17T22:58:00-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Well I've always used Opera so whatever
creator: zgunner12
date: 2005-06-17T23:11:56-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Deadfive: Firefox > Opera I have both installed, Firefox in either case is > Opera.
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-18T00:02:23-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: deadfive wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 22:46 bigjoe14 wrote: It's Firefox, not FireOx. Aircraftkillers twin. kinghigh's twin.
creator: Dave Mason
date: 2005-06-18T00:36:06-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: At least support your position that Firefuck is better than Opera... Saying "<" as if it were some kind of mathematical equation makes you look as stupid as you appear to be. Use facts, not opinions. Demo doesn't know what he's going on about, because all the extensions you have in Firefox have to be added to get functionality like Opera already has upon installation.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-18T01:02:41-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: According to PC World, Firefox is the NUMBER 1 application of 2004. Opera is number 88...
creator: bandie63
date: 2005-06-18T01:26:44-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I agree with ack there. Opera is the best. Read the tests on the Internet. It's not because a program is famous that it is the best...
creator: Renardin6
date: 2005-06-18T02:29:25-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: It would appear, according to tests, the Opera is the faster browser in terms of app load times, page load times. But, you have to consider that Firefox can be tweaked to load faster, plus the MASSIVE amount of Extensions available for FireFox make it far superior to ANY other browser. Also, Firefox is AD-FREE and free to use. I've never had a single problem with Firefox, and all the extensions install automatically without having to download anything, then run it (you just click the installer link and it takes over from there).
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-18T02:37:50-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: This means war
creator: zgunner12
date: 2005-06-18T02:46:15-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Why should you have to install loads of plugins, tweak the program for higher speeds, and do a bunch of other inane tasks because the program comes out inferior? Opera already browses the Internet in the best way possible without having to install a bunch of plugins and "extensions", which makes it easier for people to use while reducing headaches and search times that could be spent doing something productive.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-18T02:58:12-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I say you should just get IE and a Pop-Up Blocker. Its not as "talented" as the others, but its worked fine for me for years.
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-06-18T03:02:05-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 22:58 Why should you have to install loads of plugins, tweak the program for higher speeds, and do a bunch of other inane tasks because the program comes out inferior? Opera already browses the Internet in the best way possible without having to install a bunch of plugins and "extensions", which makes it easier for people to use while reducing headaches and search times that could be spent doing something productive. Also it keeps all those pages in one(you know what I mean...) page so you don't have Firefox20^ or any of that
creator: zgunner12
date: 2005-06-18T03:02:38-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 22:28 Why should you have to install loads of plugins, tweak the program for higher speeds, and do a bunch of other inane tasks because the program comes out inferior? Opera already browses the Internet in the best way possible without having to install a bunch of plugins and "extensions", which makes it easier for people to use while reducing headaches and search times that could be spent doing something productive. good lord it takes all of 3 seconds to download any plugin you need. and the only ones ive really ever needed were the Flash 7 player and Shockwave.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-06-18T03:16:04-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: That's not the point. Why should you have to install added functionality that Opera natively supports?
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-18T03:34:24-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Opera has problem viewing certain pages doesnt it? I thought I remembered hearing one time that different browsers view pages horizontally and vertically different from others. Never used Opera so I don't really know much about it.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-06-18T04:39:42-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: For god sakes, if you're too fucking lazy to get the plug-in then why waste an hour working to pay for fucking Opera?
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-18T05:03:02-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: You have to pay for Opera?
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-06-18T06:02:01-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: No, you don't have to. Glyde is not the most reliable or intelligent person in here (More to the point he's dumb as hell) so he's doing that thing where he writes without backing up his posts with any facts. So lets see here... 1. Opera is not software you have to pay for. It is completely free, but to remove the small advertisement banner (No bigger than 140x35 or so) requires you to purchase it. There is no functionality difference between the free and paid versions other than the advertisement banner (which is completely customizable to what you want to see), so it doesn't matter if you buy it or not. 2. Again, you shouldn't have to download "extensions" to get the features of a program like Opera. What Opera has should be standard on all browsers including Internet Explorer. 3. All non-Internet Explorer browsers have trouble displaying certain pages. It's not just an Opera issue.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-18T06:17:39-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 02:17 3. All non-Internet Explorer browsers have trouble displaying certain pages. It's not just an Opera issue. Are you saying that IE doesnt have trouble loading certain pages? Because if so, then i think i might have a problem with IE.
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-06-18T06:51:58-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Fact is that Internet Explorer stays the n° 1 browser for the simple fact that nor Opera, nor Firefox, nor any other can handle about all pages online, as you stated correctly. Use div's and BAAAAAAAM your site is Iexplorer-only (for correct view). I can (not really but if I had teh knowledge) easely make faster browsers, just strip them from most functionnality and they will be fast... DUH So the question is not which is the best: ff or opera, it it which looses the less functionnality while gaining speed. And that's most probably FF.
creator: Goztow
date: 2005-06-18T07:40:15-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Opera is faster than Firefuck. Didn't you read this thread at all?
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-18T08:04:21-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: FireFox all the way. I dont know about IE7 though, it might be alot better, ore maybe not.
creator: JPNOD
date: 2005-06-18T08:27:40-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller Firefuck Did you think that one up all by yourself? Also, the very site that you linked to prove that Opera is faster, shows Firefox as being faster in everything but a Javascript benchmark. All the extra "abilities" that Opera has that you need plugins to use with Firefox are, frankly, pointless. Looking at his list, I can't see a single one that would be of any use to me at all. So, aside from your opinion, why is Opera better than Firefox?
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-18T08:54:05-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I like Firefox a lot, it has a whole load of 'extensions' and themes for whatever you need, and the tab feature helps a load, but I'm going to try Opera now to see. I can remember trying it before and not liking it very much though, from what I can remember the ad banner put me off. (That is, if I can actually download Opera, the site is taking ages to load, and the download is going at 3 KB/sec )
creator: Chrono945
date: 2005-06-18T10:16:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 01:02 Demo doesn't know what he's going on about, because all the extensions you have in Firefox have to be added to get functionality like Opera already has upon installation. Not all the extensions firefox has are in opera (for example: Adblock, GooglePreview, Linky, and the Web Developer toolbar). Also I only want extensions I use so Opera prolly has crap I don't even want to have. Opera also got an annoying banner.
creator: Demolition man
date: 2005-06-18T11:06:25-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 04:04 Opera is faster than Firefuck. Didn't you read this thread at all? It could be me, but if I look at the browser comparison scheme, Firefox seems faster. Startup time is 1 second faster, not that one second really is interesting, and CPU Time to load 20 pages is faster. I can't really see on what point it should be faster. It is better with javascipt tough.
creator: Weirdo
date: 2005-06-18T14:32:35-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 02:17 No, you don't have to. Glyde is not the most reliable or intelligent person in here (More to the point he's dumb as hell) so he's doing that thing where he writes without backing up his posts with any facts. So lets see here... 1. Opera is not software you have to pay for. It is completely free, but to remove the small advertisement banner (No bigger than 140x35 or so) requires you to purchase it. There is no functionality difference between the free and paid versions other than the advertisement banner (which is completely customizable to what you want to see), so it doesn't matter if you buy it or not. 2. Again, you shouldn't have to download "extensions" to get the features of a program like Opera. What Opera has should be standard on all browsers including Internet Explorer. 3. All non-Internet Explorer browsers have trouble displaying certain pages. It's not just an Opera issue. Do you have your microphone enabled, because I get the feeling that the only thing that likes to listen to you is Opera. Advertisments suck. It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay to keep them on. While there's a free version of Opera, why use that when you can get Firefox, which has more extensions than anyone will ever need?
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-18T14:41:24-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: After using firefox for 1 year, I have yet to find a website that doesn't load. IE has serious security issues because of the simple fact that it is the most popular browser therefore more people try to find exploits.
creator: Dave Mason
date: 2005-06-18T14:42:48-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: ACK, that site you posted makes me want to use Fox even more. Who cares how much memory it takes, as long as its faster.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-06-18T15:19:01-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Meh,I have used Opera 2 years and I haven't found any pages that don't load so I dunno.
creator: zgunner12
date: 2005-06-18T16:08:23-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I use Opera for the speed. It's even faster than Safari. And for christ's sake, just crack it and stop complaining about the ads.
creator: Fabian
date: 2005-06-18T16:38:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: zgunner12 wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 23:02 Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 22:58 Why should you have to install loads of plugins, tweak the program for higher speeds, and do a bunch of other inane tasks because the program comes out inferior? Opera already browses the Internet in the best way possible without having to install a bunch of plugins and "extensions", which makes it easier for people to use while reducing headaches and search times that could be spent doing something productive. Also it keeps all those pages in one(you know what I mean...) page so you don't have Firefox20^ or any of that And I'm sure that Firefox doesn't do the same thing? Both browsers have tabbed browsing.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2005-06-18T16:44:32-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Opera has that by default. You need to press Ctrl-T in Firefox in order to do that.
creator: bigejoe14
date: 2005-06-18T16:59:01-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: The horror!
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-18T17:29:15-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: bigejoe14 wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 12:59 Opera has that by default. You need to press Ctrl-T in Firefox in order to do that. What do you mean? Firefox has tabbed browsing by default... Ctrl+T just opens a new tab.
creator: Sir Phoenixx
date: 2005-06-18T17:32:28-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Or middle-clicking a link. Or ctrl-clicking it.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-18T17:33:14-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: http://www.avantbrowser.com/ This is my current web browser. Has everything that was mentioned for Firefox and Opera. I'm not going to go into a whole argument about which is better, but just try out Avant, and then choose which is best.
creator: U927
date: 2005-06-18T18:03:25-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Doesn't that use IE...? I have Netscape, Deepnet, Firefox, Opera (paid), and IE... so..
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-18T18:38:42-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Quote: FireOx
creator: prox
date: 2005-06-18T18:50:54-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 04:04 Opera is faster than Firefuck. Didn't you read this thread at all? I read the thread but u didn't seem to have read my post.
creator: Goztow
date: 2005-06-18T19:50:48-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Quote: Advertisments suck. It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay to keep them on. While there's a free version of Opera, why use that when you can get Firefox, which has more extensions than anyone will ever need? Advertisements are what keeps the Internet running free for the most part. Without advertisements, everything would be a paid service and you'd be unable to see much of anything unless you shelled out $5+ per website just to view its content, in addition to your ISP rates. Extensions do not a browser make. Opera already has what Firefuck needed to begin with. It loads websites faster, and doesn't have memory problems like Firefuck does... The whole "minimize it and it unloads all memory, just to take a while to reload again" problem. Quote: Who cares how much memory it takes, as long as its faster. Uhh... Generally when something requires more memory, it's not going to allow your computer to operate as fast as it should.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-18T22:32:33-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 18:32 Uhh... Generally when something requires more memory, it's not going to allow your computer to operate as fast as it should. X Wrong answer, ditchwitch. Generally, when something requires more memory, it means it's a larger program, that's about it. About the only time it would cause any type of performance issue is if you had 1MB of available memory left and the extra two FireFox used would throw you out to the page file.. If that were the case, FF is the least of your problems. You're still a retard, generally speaking of course.
creator: msgtpain
date: 2005-06-18T23:14:36-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 18:32 Quote: Advertisments suck. It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay to keep them on. While there's a free version of Opera, why use that when you can get Firefox, which has more extensions than anyone will ever need? Advertisements are what keeps the Internet running free for the most part. Without advertisements, everything would be a paid service and you'd be unable to see much of anything unless you shelled out $5+ per website just to view its content, in addition to your ISP rates. Extensions do not a browser make. Opera already has what Firefuck needed to begin with. It loads websites faster, and doesn't have memory problems like Firefuck does... The whole "minimize it and it unloads all memory, just to take a while to reload again" problem. Quote: Who cares how much memory it takes, as long as its faster. Uhh... Generally when something requires more memory, it's not going to allow your computer to operate as fast as it should. We get enough advertisments on the Internet. We don't need them in our browsers.
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-18T23:17:54-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: OK, Opera natively has the current weather and radar images, my Google Adsense earnings, my winamp status and controls, an eyedroppeer for getting color codes from webpages, and a Web Developer toolbar as robust as the one in Firefox? And I assume Opera will also me to set all new windows to new tabs and middle-click links to open in a new tab? Furthermore, are the new tabs opened in the background so I can look at them when I'm good and ready? And Opera also natively lets me right-click in a textarea and do "paste as quote" to automatically put bbcode's [ quote] and [ /quote] markers around something I paste? Oh wait, Opera also lets me right-click any page and automatically open the WHOIS information for the domain I'm visiting in its own tab? If so, then I'll switch. If not, I'll stay with Firefox.
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-19T02:38:54-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I don't know about the weather and color parts, but I do know this for certain: Quote: And I assume Opera will also me to set all new windows to new tabs and middle-click links to open in a new tab? That's standard in Opera. I didn't have to install anything for it to operate that way. Quote: Furthermore, are the new tabs opened in the background so I can look at them when I'm good and ready? Yes, that's what happens when I use the mouse wheel to click any URL.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-19T04:33:59-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Exactly the same way that Firefox does it too. Remarkable.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-19T05:41:00-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Remarkable considering Firefox is less suited to browsing the Internet than Opera is. I'm not even certain of what 8.0 can do because I still have 7.50 installed. Might as well go upgrade to 8 and find out.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-19T05:42:53-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: As long as you acknowledge that that's only your opinion, and not anything based on actual fact (as the comparison you linked comes out in favour of Firefox over Opera)
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-19T05:51:28-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: http://www.n00bstories.com/image.view.php?id=1011107433
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-19T06:10:33-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: http://www.lintacious.com/opera/compare.php http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/10/1626233
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-19T07:03:22-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Again, personal preferences. I'm quite happy to accept that, in your opinion, Opera is a better browser than Firefox. However, trotting out links that just show one person's comparison of features (and neither of your two links there show anything definitively anyway) doesn't exactly constitute imperical evidence. The one site you linked that actually used facts and any kind of quantitative comparison came out in favour of Firefox. Presenting opinion as fact tends not to fly.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-19T07:29:43-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Save the snobbish attitude for later on, that site I linked you to didn't exactly give Firefuck the "better than Opera" point of view that you're bitching about.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-19T08:11:56-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: It's not a "snobbish attitude" - I'm just not subscribing to your "I prefer A over B, therefore A is better" viewpoint. The one that you always use. I'm sure I shouldn't need to point this out to you, but at no point have I stated or attempted to state that Firefox is the "better" browser. I've just disputed your claims that Opera is "better" than Firefox. All your claims are entirely and utterly subjective. So, nice attempt at pointing out my "bitching", but it falls at the first hurdle. As I previously stated, if you prefer Opera over Firefox then I'm very happy for you. However, that doesn't mean it's automatically superior to any alternative. The links you provided are completely subjective, and don't actually prove anything at all. That, coupled with your apparent need to rename things you dislike in some derogatory fashion (something my 4-year old son currently does, by the way, albeit without resorting to swearing) just takes away any credence that you might have had. Maybe I should call your browser of choice "Crapera"! That way, I can look as intelligent and well-informed as you do!
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-19T08:31:30-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Then don't? I see no reason to subscribe to your "Whine because I think my way is better" viewpoint. Opera is faster, and that is a fact. Most tests done so far, if not all, have shown this to be true. As for the whole security thing, Firefuck is more vulnerable to exploits than Opera is according to secunia.com. Mozilla Firefox 1.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Moderately critical This is based on the most severe Secunia advisory, which is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database. Go to Unpatched/Patched list below for details. Currently, 5 out of 18 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database. The Secunia database currently contains 0 Secunia advisories marked as "Unpatched", which affects Opera 8.x. This is based on the most severe Secunia advisory, which is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database. Go to Unpatched/Patched list below for details. Currently, 0 out of 4 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-19T08:50:10-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: You keep on saying that it's faster and that its a fact. But your first article never says it is faster. It actually shows at certain points the opposite. It might use more memory, but the amount of RAM used does not mean it's slower.
creator: Weirdo
date: 2005-06-19T08:58:35-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: First of all, it's not a FACT that Opera is faster. I'm sure that if it was, you'd have gone to great lengths to prove it, rather than the link you did provide that showed the opposite. Perspective. It's a wonderful thing. Imagine this hypothetical scenario - Firefox takes 0.5 seconds to download and render a page. Opera (the elite uberbrowser!) does the same page in 0.25 seconds. Therefore, it's twice as fast! and how much does that enhance your life? Is your brain sat there freewheeling, waiting desperately for the page to load so your hungry eyes can devour the content? If you loaded 1000 pages in the course of a day with those hypothetical speeds (and assuming a hypothetical consistency of speed), then you would have saved a total of 500 seconds. That's a whole 8 and a half minutes over the course of a day! Just imagine what you can achieve in the time you've saved by not using such an inferior browser! Of course, this does tend to assume that Opera is always faster than Firefox and that Opera is always faster than Firefox by that margin. As for security, yes, Firefox has more current vulnerabilites than Opera. Bigger targets always get hit more (which is why IE has the most vulnerabilities). All this is irrelevant, however. There is no arbiter of browser quality. There is no definitive "best browser". Whichever one you prefer is the one that's best for you. If you're unable to back up your assertions, then you shouldn't be making them.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-19T09:17:32-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: IE works better than Firefox, because it is faster. And also, my friend said some time ago that Opera works faster than Firefox and I believe him.
creator: emperorz0
date: 2005-06-19T12:46:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: IE is faster than a snail with a limp, and nothing else.
creator: Fabian
date: 2005-06-19T15:07:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: What's firefuck?
creator: Homey
date: 2005-06-19T16:44:01-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Here's a novel concept: As long as it isn't Internet Exploder, it doesn't matter! Opera, Firefox, etc... all of them are better than IE. Why should anyone give half a cow fuck whether or not someone else is using a faster browser, or one with more features, or whatever the hell else? My preference is for Firefox. I have had no problems with it since I started using it, and until I do, I see no reason to change browsers again. I don't need most of the features that are available for browsers and I don't care how many milliseconds difference there is in page load time (we aren't talking about crippling differences in speed here). It works, it is more secure than IE, and it takes up very little space on my hard drive. That's really all I need from a browser.
creator: NukeIt15
date: 2005-06-19T18:41:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: NukeIt15 wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 14:41 Here's a novel concept: As long as it isn't Internet Exploder, it doesn't matter! Opera, Firefox, etc... all of them are better than IE. Why should anyone give half a cow fuck whether or not someone else is using a faster browser, or one with more features, or whatever the hell else? My preference is for Firefox. I have had no problems with it since I started using it, and until I do, I see no reason to change browsers again. I don't need most of the features that are available for browsers and I don't care how many milliseconds difference there is in page load time (we aren't talking about crippling differences in speed here). It works, it is more secure than IE, and it takes up very little space on my hard drive. That's really all I need from a browser. Couldn't have said it better myself.
creator: Homey
date: 2005-06-19T19:57:38-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Homey wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 20:57 NukeIt15 wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 14:41 Here's a novel concept: As long as it isn't Internet Exploder, it doesn't matter! Opera, Firefox, etc... all of them are better than IE. Why should anyone give half a cow fuck whether or not someone else is using a faster browser, or one with more features, or whatever the hell else? My preference is for Firefox. I have had no problems with it since I started using it, and until I do, I see no reason to change browsers again. I don't need most of the features that are available for browsers and I don't care how many milliseconds difference there is in page load time (we aren't talking about crippling differences in speed here). It works, it is more secure than IE, and it takes up very little space on my hard drive. That's really all I need from a browser. Couldn't have said it better myself. Agreed. It's like my mobile. Everybody I know is going for the fancy new phones with cool ringtones. Who gives a fuck? As long as I can use SMS, have a phone book and ring people I don't care.
creator: Dave Mason
date: 2005-06-19T20:07:21-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I hate polyphonic ringtones... Nothing like the good old ringtones which you can actually HEAR! I dont know if my ringtone just sucks, but I can hear the vibrating more than I can the actual ringtone. I should find myself a beeping one. As for browsers, I think that the extenstions in FireFox helps to keep out useless functions which you would probably never use if they were standard. I have 3 extensions on FireFox, one of which I'm not sure what it does, its there anyway, the second makes it so that I dont get a blank browser window when I'm downloading a binary file, and the last adds media player buttons in the status bar so I can change my song without having to switch back to WMP.
creator: Dan
date: 2005-06-19T20:32:14-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I would like to point out IE is ad-free.
creator: Doitle
date: 2005-06-19T22:22:04-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Firefox is also ad-free. The Open Source community is just damn amazing.
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-20T00:06:17-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Especially when it comes to the amount of exploits in Firefuck, which is astounding compared to none found in Opera.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-20T00:11:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: MY E-PENIS IS SO COOL! Firefox is great for lots of extensions and customization. Opera is great if you are Aircraftkiller.
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-20T00:12:35-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: You can customize Opera, and it has more than just 24 themes. There's something like over 500 different "skins" for Opera including the ability to change many things in the program. Please stop being stupid, it's not good for your health.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-20T00:15:13-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 20:15 You can customize Opera, and it has more than just 24 themes. There's something like over 500 different "skins" for Opera including the ability to change many things in the program. Please stop being stupid, it's not good for your health. www.mozdev.org Look around there. Maybe you can expand onto your vocabulary!
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-20T00:18:26-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I'd rather not, Mozilla is a plague upon mankind.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-20T00:19:36-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: It has many plug-ins and such that work with Firefox. Many many more than your Opera. I think you can use a hug. Go around town in your white van again!
creator: glyde51
date: 2005-06-20T00:20:28-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: And why would I need "Plugin to tell me when to scratch my balls" and other ludicrous items?
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-20T00:29:04-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: You have absolutely no idea what Open Source has produced. Go check out Sourceforge and Freshmeat sometime. And then there's that small thing where, uh, PHP and MYSQL are Open Source/free products. So get a clue before you start bashing open source.
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-20T00:32:04-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: And just for the record, I would find a plugin to tell me when to scratch my balls far more useful than a stupid "skin".
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-20T00:33:05-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Quote: You can customize Opera, and it has more than just 24 themes. 24? Lol, that comparison site must be quite old. Firefox has almost 100 themes (and over 500 extentions) listed on its site alone.
creator: Sir Phoenixx
date: 2005-06-20T00:38:20-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 20:11 Especially when it comes to the amount of exploits in Firefuck, which is astounding compared to none found in Opera. Still, what's Firefuck?
creator: Homey
date: 2005-06-20T02:15:52-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Impressive. You've gone from making baseless claims (that you've been repeatedly unable to back up) about Opera's superiority to the opposite end of the scale - Mozilla is now apparently a "plague upon mankind". Have you ever considered a career in politics?
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-20T05:03:39-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Ack's never been able to argue outside of his own dillusional opinions and personal attacks, what's new?
creator: msgtpain
date: 2005-06-20T05:25:31-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: ACK is stubborn, he won't change his mind about anything, so quit trying.
creator: Jecht
date: 2005-06-20T06:00:10-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Crimson wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 19:33 And just for the record, I would find a plugin to tell me when to scratch my balls far more useful than a stupid "skin". Lmao, well said
creator: csskiller
date: 2005-06-20T06:10:29-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: gbull wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 02:00 ACK is stubborn, he won't change his mind about anything, so quit trying. I'm not trying to change his mind about anything. I'm just pointing out how weak his argument is.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-20T06:41:57-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Spot the ad banner that you must suffer through to keep opera free! http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1397874640 I prefer Opera because my computer has a habit of crashing often (both programs and the computer itself). The fact that Opera lets you start where you left off in the even of such an occurance is a big time-saving bonus for me. Though the download "manager" is a nice feature as well, if only because it means I don't have to pray my Internet Explorer-based download doesn't stall. (side note: ignore the "stem cell research" page, I had just finished replying to another topic here.)
creator: warranto
date: 2005-06-20T06:44:15-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Hey, you even got my edited Nod Light Tank in the picture! Yeah, the Downloader for IE is horrible, but atleast it works. Then again, i dont think an unworking Downloader would be called that. I like your signature, Warranto. Loosely fits me, though im normally a Defensive Sniper. Fun to kill those Havoc Campers with just a Black Hand Sniper. I love it when they ask where im at. I either dont answer, or just tell them "Snipers Secret!"
creator: Lijitsu
date: 2005-06-20T07:07:26-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: warranto wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 06:44 Spot the ad banner that you must suffer through to keep opera free! http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1397874640 I prefer Opera because my computer has a habit of crashing often (both programs and the computer itself). The fact that Opera lets you start where you left off in the even of such an occurance is a big time-saving bonus for me. Though the download "manager" is a nice feature as well, if only because it means I don't have to pray my Internet Explorer-based download doesn't stall. (side note: ignore the "stem cell research" page, I had just finished replying to another topic here.) https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=436 http://dmextension.mozdev.org/
creator: Demolition man
date: 2005-06-20T08:13:27-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Damn, look at all the problems with that listed... Yet Opera does it flawlessly.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2005-06-20T08:15:33-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I suppose that's useful if your browser crashes a lot...
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-20T08:34:49-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: PiMuRho wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 04:34 I suppose that's useful if your browser crashes a lot... Maybe you should check WHY the browser crashes a lot then? Spyware? virusses? Or just plain old windows that needs a reinstall after turning for about 1 year on that computer? www.thekoss.tk check if opera can show this page properly. It uses div's and i know FF fucks up over it...
creator: Goztow
date: 2005-06-20T08:38:18-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: I didn't say that my browser crashes a lot. Truth be told, I don't recall the last time it crashed.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-20T08:54:46-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Demolition man wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 01:13 https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=436 Wow... it took you a couple years but you finally posted something useful again. I was told that extension existed but I hadn't yet found it. A 2 second download and a Firefox restart later, and I have it.
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-20T09:41:25-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: By the way, for those of you who don't hang out in #n00bstories IRC, this discussion took place there as well, and Aircraftkiller has also revealed that "open source is garbage".
creator: Crimson
date: 2005-06-20T09:45:11-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Some people enjoy wallowing in ignorance.
creator: PiMuRho
date: 2005-06-20T10:48:33-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Another great extention is the one that automatically puts the url tags around anything that doesnt already have url tags around it and begins with www. and ends in .com/.net/.org, etc. Great for people who forget their URL tags!
creator: bandie63
date: 2005-06-20T10:54:34-00:00

Re: FireOx | Opera
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description: Open source programs can be MUCH better than closed-source ones. For example, say someone found an exploit in FireFox and its the beginning of a weekend/bank holiday. If an exploit was found in opera, that means that the developers would be at home with their feet up, and the expoit would most likely be around all weekend until the developers get back, and depending on the severity, it could take another day or two for them to fix and release a patch. Now say FireFox had an exploit found. There are many more people with knowledge of the FireFox source which could easily come up with a patch in near to no time and release it for people to download.
creator: Dan
date: 2005-06-20T11:21:41-00:00