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9-11 WTC Attack Fake! The buildings were blown up by explosives!! :-o
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050613-102755-6408 r.htm This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. Did this fuckstick not see the planes hit the buildings like the rest of us did? Somedumbass A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. LOL! WTF...seriously. Somedumbass Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. So let me get this straight...This guy thinks that "we" (the Govt, whoever), intentially blew up the WTC, killing thousands of people and causing millions of dollars of damage and rebuilding costs... Somedumbass Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling." Compelling...thats one word for it. If there was even a hint that the Govt did this "on purpose", my mind boggles at the prospect of what would happen. Somedumbass If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings." Wow...this guy really believes the bullshit he is shoveling. Really sad. How can someone even imagine, much less believe, that the Govt would kill thousands of people in a major city for...what reason? Let me guess "to go to war for oil". OMFG at least pick a conspiracy that makes sense!! Which reminds me, if we invaded Iraq to "steal oil", where is it? Why am I still telecommuting because gas is $2.75 a gallon?
Re: 9-11 WTC Attack Fake! The buildings were blown up by explosives!! :-o
Does this guy have an IQ of 10? I cannot fathom where the guy could have gotten his "information". I could understand that if it was an April Fool's joke except for the fact that it was released 3 days ago.
His hatred for our government and our president must have blinded him.
They added the planes on the videos with photoshop, now I see it all clear!
Blazer wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 01:52 http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050613-102755-6408 r.htm This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. Did this fuckstick not see the planes hit the buildings like the rest of us did? Somedumbass A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. LOL! WTF...seriously. Somedumbass Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. So let me get this straight...This guy thinks that "we" (the Govt, whoever), intentially blew up the WTC, killing thousands of people and causing millions of dollars of damage and rebuilding costs... Somedumbass Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling." Compelling...thats one word for it. If there was even a hint that the Govt did this "on purpose", my mind boggles at the prospect of what would happen. Somedumbass If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings." Wow...this guy really believes the bullshit he is shoveling. Really sad. How can someone even imagine, much less believe, that the Govt would kill thousands of people in a major city for...what reason? Let me guess "to go to war for oil". OMFG at least pick a conspiracy that makes sense!! Which reminds me, if we invaded Iraq to "steal oil", where is it? Why am I still telecommuting because gas is $2.75 a gallon? Who knows? Shit I think that it might be possible,I still find it hard to believe that 2 terrorist with box cutters hi-jacked a plane with 40 plus people on it. I do believe that our government know of the attack,but didn't take it seriuos enuff.
The government had known about a possible terrorist attack, but they didn't take it serious enough. However, that doesn't constitute the fact that this moron claims that the government was BEHIND the attacks themselves. The government knows that confidential information ALWAYS gets to the public eventually whether it via links or overwhelming suspicsion that leads to exposure. That's one major deterrant for them actually being behind the attacks. Another one would be the fact that it kills their own citizens. A government controlled by the people is not going to kill its people.
When have our government ever been controlled by the people. More like controlled by the president. Show me proof of the government being controlled by the people.
I think that if "professional demolition" was involved, the buildings wouldn't have burned for 30 mins before they finally collapsed due to structural failure. Though I suppose the airplanes could have been teleported away prior to passing behind the buildings, just to make it look like they hit... but I somehow think that isn't likely. Or they had time to put in the airplanes digitally, before showing it on the air, simply to coincide with the explosions. Oh, yes. And pay off all "witnesses" to the event.
Well I'm convinced. It disgusts me that the US Government would do that to thousands of people, not only their own people but people from all over the World. Those of you who voted Bush back in should be ashamed of yourselves. Though I do have to commend the US Government on how quickly they managed to make it look like a terrorist attack, confiscating all the video footage then doctoring it and then getting it back before anybody knows it's gone and paying all the witnesses, very clever of them. I bet Osama Bin Ladin never existed as well that's why we still haven't found him. And managing to link it all in to form an excuse for attacking Iraq for Oil, what a stroke of genius. All the pieces of the puzzle are falling into place now.
LMAO,LMAO, Tool you just opened up a big ass can of debate juice. I'm gonna go get me some jesus juice,this thread about to get good.
Me wonders if this demolition team also did the bombings in spain on 03/11 2004, almost exactly 2 and a half years after 9/11. Which I think was also claimed by al-quaida. Seriously this story is so wrong, it's almost funny, if not so many innocent people had died.
kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 12:47 LMAO,LMAO, Tool you just opened up a big ass can of debate juice. I'm gonna go get me some jesus juice,this thread about to get good. Apparently you don't understand the concept of sarcasm.
U927 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 13:24 kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 12:47 LMAO,LMAO, Tool you just opened up a big ass can of debate juice. I'm gonna go get me some jesus juice,this thread about to get good. Apparently you don't understand the concept of sarcasm. You think Tool was joking,I seem to think he was serious Two different opinions
Hah, you thought THAT was serious? I could see the sarcasm from Michigan.
kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 11:19 When have our government ever been controlled by the people. More like controlled by the president. Show me proof of the government being controlled by the people. Voting...? That was a stupid post.
j4S[p wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 14:34] kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 11:19 When have our government ever been controlled by the people. More like controlled by the president. Show me proof of the government being controlled by the people. Voting...? That was a stupid post. Thats it,,,,just Voting.Well I know hundreds of people who don't vote . I need more proof then that.
gbull wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 14:12 Hah, you thought THAT was serious? I could see the sarcasm from Michigan. Me too... good old (humid) Michigan. kinghigh, we VOTE the politicians into office. The ones who were behind the "demolition" wouldn't get elected again. The people (registered voters) control the fate of the politicians... they're not going to go and kill their own votes.
kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 14:36 U927 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 13:24 kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 12:47 LMAO,LMAO, Tool you just opened up a big ass can of debate juice. I'm gonna go get me some jesus juice,this thread about to get good. Apparently you don't understand the concept of sarcasm. You think Tool was joking,I seem to think he was serious Two different opinions Please tell me you're just acting stupid to get the attention you've obviously been deprived of by your parents.
Damn tool,I didn't think you had a funny bone. I thought you were serious like ALL your other post.
kinghigh1 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 19:03 Damn tool,I didn't think you had a funny bone. I thought you were serious like ALL your other post. Funny bone? What the fuck...
gbull wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 23:13 kinghigh, go away. *Sigh*, the woes of a dedicated defensive engineer... win little, lose lots. lol
This guy has it all wrong. Aliens destroyed the towers...ffs get it right.
Anybody got pics of the plane that hit the pentegon?
LOL I'm wif kinghigh on diss wun. I haf computer and ur mom is fat.
[on topic]I know that the planes hit the towers and the pentagon, but I can't seem to grasp how they hijacked planes with knives. Like did the hijackers kill the pilots and flew the planes into the towers themselves or did the pilots just unlikely comply with them?
They weren't knives, they were box cutters. Before 9/11 no one had done anything like it before. Staff were trained to comply with the hijackers' requests just like you're trained to when you work with money or dealing with the public. Just comply and give them whatever they want because money can be replaced. So, the flight attendants did whatever the terrorists wanted. They had no idea that their goal was to commit suicide and crash the plane into a building. At worst it was a hostage situation, but not certain death. However, what was to be the last plane to crash was better informed. Passengers found out through phone calls home to family that the hijacked planes were crashed into both towers and the Pentagon. They knew their plane was headed for certain doom as well. So they decided if they were going to die, they weren't going down without a fight. Of course we'll never know all the details, but they managed to take control of the plane enough to crash it into a field in Pennsylvania instead of its unknown intended target.
Oh, thanks Crimson for clearing that up for me.
Crimson wrote on Wed, 22 June 2005 19:45 They weren't knives, they were box cutters. Before 9/11 no one had done anything like it before. Staff were trained to comply with the hijackers' requests just like you're trained to when you work with money or dealing with the public. Just comply and give them whatever they want because money can be replaced. So, the flight attendants did whatever the terrorists wanted. They had no idea that their goal was to commit suicide and crash the plane into a building. At worst it was a hostage situation, but not certain death. However, what was to be the last plane to crash was better informed. Passengers found out through phone calls home to family that the hijacked planes were crashed into both towers and the Pentagon. They knew their plane was headed for certain doom as well. So they decided if they were going to die, they weren't going down without a fight. Of course we'll never know all the details, but they managed to take control of the plane enough to crash it into a field in Pennsylvania instead of its unknown intended target. I'm not American, but I think that the target was possibly Congress? And that stuff about bombs is bullshit. I may not agree with ANYTHING Bush does, but unless Al-Quieda (<-sp?) is an arabic demolition company, that is the biggest load of crap I have ever read. Though I still wonder... how did Bush go from Afganistan to Iraq?
Well, we were done with major combat operations in Afghanistan. The Taliban was overthrown and we were left with operations that need little manpower. We are still in Afghanistan, but not with the numbers that we had before. Specialized operations are being carried out and of course, hunting for Bin Laden. We went to Iraq to continue the war against Terror and overthrew Saddam in an attempt to further stabilize the Middle East and establish a non-dictator form of government that would be significantly less conducive to breeding terrorist cells.
Blazer wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 02:52 http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050613-102755-6408 r.htm This is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. Did this fuckstick not see the planes hit the buildings like the rest of us did? Somedumbass A former Bush team member during his first administration is now voicing serious doubts about the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9-11. LOL! WTF...seriously. Somedumbass Former chief economist for the Department of Labor during President George W. Bush's first term Morgan Reynolds comments that the official story about the collapse of the WTC is "bogus" and that it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7. So let me get this straight...This guy thinks that "we" (the Govt, whoever), intentially blew up the WTC, killing thousands of people and causing millions of dollars of damage and rebuilding costs... Somedumbass Reynolds, who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis in Dallas and is now professor emeritus at Texas A&M University said, "If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an 'inside job' and a government attack on America would be compelling." Compelling...thats one word for it. If there was even a hint that the Govt did this "on purpose", my mind boggles at the prospect of what would happen. Somedumbass If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government's collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings." Wow...this guy really believes the bullshit he is shoveling. Really sad. How can someone even imagine, much less believe, that the Govt would kill thousands of people in a major city for...what reason? Let me guess "to go to war for oil". OMFG at least pick a conspiracy that makes sense!! Which reminds me, if we invaded Iraq to "steal oil", where is it? Why am I still telecommuting because gas is $2.75 a gallon? I don't want to spark anything, in fact I'm not really continuing to watch this topic, I found the title intruiging... If they did go to Iraq for oil, it would have been a longer term thing. Investment.
I was AT new york when this happen, i seen the first attack hit, not the second. Why? well lets see, you see a plane smash into a skyscraper...you run...trust me.So i ran for cover then not to long later another, so no, the trade centers are NOT fakes, i have my own video recorder to prove that, ill post in on here if someone can tell me how to do it.
I saw a plane go right through one of the towers live on TV.
icedog90 wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 02:25 I saw a plane go right through one of the towers live on TV.
There you go, thats the proof everyones going on.
icedog90 wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 03:25 I saw a plane go right through one of the towers live on TV. But don't you know, man? The government had a live-action CGI anaimation team to make the plane, man!
my god...even if thats sarcasm, its not funny.
I wasn't supposed to be funny. The statement's intention was to argue how far people will go to "explain" that the terrorist attacks were fake.
The Government hired David Copperfield to make the World Trade Centers Disapeer! Go after David Copperfield! He's the one you want. Make him bring the towers back from the magical limbo they currently reside in!
I'm not saying I'm a believer of 9/11 being a hoax but... I want to know how the people on the flight that crashed in PA managed to have cell phone conversations on a plane that was above 1000 feet. Most cell phone providers would tell you that's very unlikley. Quote: "Once you get to a certain height, you are no longer in the range of the cellular network" because cell phone towers aren't built to project their signals that high, she said. The technology is "difficult now, but it's not something that can't happen in the future." -Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50320-2004Dec 9.html
I doubt terrorists abide by the rules of Aircraft school while their flying.
Why can we just not let the past go? We seem to keep digging it up, however all this past just causes more conflict between the government and the population. Also, the amount of funds that must be going into this must be phonominal, all from your taxes.
I don't think much funding is going into researching what happened on 9/11 anymore.
oh hell no, its in the past, they know most of it, and what they dont they make up, typical cover up.
my view on what happand is that yes it was done by terrorists but was funded or driven by elments of the us gov to meet their own ends... yes its a fact that 2 planes hit the towers. Everyone saw that happan. but what about the other two jets? the one that hit the pentagon...wheres the plane`? wheres the wings, tail end, body? landing gear, engines, human bodys? has anyone ever seen a list of the death from that jet? in all the photos I have seen of that crash, is ones of a hole in the walls of the building, but nothing elas..even the hole itself is not big enough why is there so many recordings of the jets crashing into the twin towers but none of the jet crashing into the pentagon which has cttv all around it, I heard of reports that all cttv tapes around the area was taken away by fbi/cia whatever, whys that? could these tapes prove that a jet didnt hit the building where in fact, a missile hit it instead? now the Pennsylvania Crash, airplaine crash expects have said that when a plane crashs, the wreckage is tighty together, and this is has been proven in crashs before. Now the expects have said that the wreakage is more of a plane been hit by a missile, as the wrackage is spred miles around, just like this crash. do you honestly belive that the us airfocce or GWBush is gonna come on live tv and say...yes we shot a plane down with over 300 lives`? of cause not..they lied about shooting it down. i saw from the first post saying that the us gov wouldnt kill their own people? you really belive that? when they have done it before... ever heard of the US spy ship Liberty`? look it up, you will find interesting reading.. sorry for any poor arse spelling.
actually, there was plane wreckage, you just have to see the pictures, the plane acted like a pressurized tube, so whe nit hit, it went farther in, the wings pretty much disintegrated, and the landing gear WAS outside the pentagon
feel free to post some pictures...cause they aint any. The two photographs in question 2 show the building just after the attack. We may observe that the aircraft only hit the ground floor. The four upper floors collapsed towards 10.10 am. The building is 26 yards high. Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building? lol whers the fucking hugh plane in any of them... http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en. htm << please have a look at this...rises a few Qs..
You, truly, are an idiot. Nobody, not even an insane president would orchestrate an attack on his own fucking country. I don't care how many lunatics say different, IT DID NOT HAPPEN. Common sense, people. That's all I ask. USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS FOR ONCE! I swear, people get more and more stupid each and every day.
my god kid, go to the right site, your not looking at the right pictures...
cheek show these "right" sites then...why havent you posted some? there are no photos of any parts of the plane outside or inside or anywhere close to that building. please prove me wrong. Jacob your just a other typical ignorant stupid american kid, jump bitch, jump when i say MP.
IWarriors wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 14:35 Jacob your just a other typical ignorant stupid american kid, jump bitch, jump when i say MP. Don't you dare call me by my first name. You don't know me, so don't act like you do. I'm just another typical ignorant stupid american kid? If you could come up with decent insults, maybe I'd be offended by that, but you fail. I'm not an idiot by any means. I have common sense, something you apparently lack. The US government isn't going to conspire to attack its own people. Why would we attack our own country? If you say it was to give us an excuse to go after oil, you're even more stupid than I thought. Our oil prices were not bad in 2000 or 2001. The attacks and the wars have hurt our economy, not made it stronger. The government isn't going to purposely hurt the economy. In fact, these wars are giving OPEC even more money, not taking it away from them. There'd be no other reason to attack our own country but for economic gain, and it certainly wouldn't/hasn't done that.
Have you ever seen a plane hit a concrete wall... It VAPORIZES... The wings since they are swooped back will break back towards the fusalage therefore creating a smaller hole.
I cant belive he was still reading the kid a book... i would of stop and done something. I seen on the news recently a tape between a USAF guy and a airport guy saying something like "should we scramble jets (USAF guy said that) and the airport guy said (this shocked me) i just dont know.
aww dont cry Jacob that I keep calling you by your first name lol. Just for note, I be calling you that from now on, so stfu. lol...so you all belive that the entire plane was vaporized soon as it hit the building? wow we are living in sci fi wacko world arnt we...things like that dont happan on in real life, so turn off star trek and try to learn. planes have been crashing for a long time and funny enough they dont get vaporized when they crash from 40.000 feet or whatever. facts are, there are no pictures, no recorded images, no plane hit the building, the building was hit by a missile, how many of you have seen buildings get hit by missiles? the damage done to the pentagon is the same as any other building which gets hit by a rocket/missile. Quote: The wings since they are swooped back will break back towards the fusalage therefore creating a smaller hole hmm so..wheres the wings again? where are the wings with a wingspan of 41.6 yards? wighting a few tons and fully leden with fual which when hit the building, would had totaly sent a fireball sky high just like twin towers, but we all seen flim of that terrorist attack, but yet none of the pentagon attack... and you all fully belive that what the gov tells you is true...lol am sure you all belive that jesus is going to be coming back to...the ignorance is sicking, none of you can post any facts or stats of anything. hey Jacob your so smart that you had to put 430 on the end of j_ball430 whats wrong...cant think of your own name without adding numbers to the end? i was reading your shity lil site you have...lol maybe you should spend less time here on the forums and more time at the gym you fat slug, you better go running now, burn them beef burgers and hotdogs off if you need any help with this, i can design a training progamme for you this is my last reply here, your all too ignorant and brainwashed.
IWarriors wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 17:27 aww dont cry Jacob that I keep calling you by your first name lol. Just for note, I be calling you that from now on, so stfu. lol...so you all belive that the entire plane was vaporized soon as it hit the building? wow we are living in sci fi wacko world arnt we...things like that dont happan on in real life, so turn off star trek and try to learn. planes have been crashing for a long time and funny enough they dont get vaporized when they crash from 40.000 feet or whatever. facts are, there are no pictures, no recorded images, no plane hit the building, the building was hit by a missile, how many of you have seen buildings get hit by missiles? the damage done to the pentagon is the same as any other building which gets hit by a rocket/missile. Quote: The wings since they are swooped back will break back towards the fusalage therefore creating a smaller hole hmm so..wheres the wings again? where are the wings with a wingspan of 41.6 yards? wighting a few tons and fully leden with fual which when hit the building, would had totaly sent a fireball sky high just like twin towers, but we all seen flim of that terrorist attack, but yet none of the pentagon attack... and you all fully belive that what the gov tells you is true...lol am sure you all belive that jesus is going to be coming back to...the ignorance is sicking, none of you can post any facts or stats of anything. hey Jacob your so smart that you had to put 430 on the end of j_ball430 whats wrong...cant think of your own name without adding numbers to the end? i was reading your shity lil site you have...lol maybe you should spend less time here on the forums and more time at the gym you fat slug, you better go running now, burn them beef burgers and hotdogs off if you need any help with this, i can design a training progamme for you this is my last reply here, your all too ignorant and brainwashed. and now we have Scythar wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 18:13 http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm Rofl, IronWarrior just got fucking owned ^_____^
You know, insulting people is hardly a way to support your argument. All it does is make everyone think you are immature, irrational, stupid, pinheaded, and seven different forms of fucking moronic. Nobody likes a troll. But since you apparently couldn't give less of a shit, here goes: You, sir, are a fucking moron. You obviously lack any knowledge of physics, aerospace and structural engineering, basic chemistry, common sense, and above all, reality. You are the type of retard who goes around wearing tinfoil hats to keep out the evil government mind control rays. You call these people ignorant and brainwashed? Bloody hell, you fool, listen to YOURSELF! "War for oil!" "Bush killed everyone so he could go to war for oil!" "Conspiracy! Conspiracy oh NOES!!!" I'm not even going to bother writing a rational reply. Know why? Because there's a better chance of pigs landing on the moon than you listening to reality. Emphasis on this bit: YOU ARE MIND-FUCKINGLY STUPID.] But for the rest of you, who actually live in the real world... Would anyone, by any chance, happen to have a link to that concrete wall test video? The one where an F-4 was launched into a concrete wall at high subsonic speed to test the strength of the wall? That would be an excellent vid to show here...because the plane became little more than a stain on the damn wall. There was hardly any wreckage at all; in the slow-motion footage, you can actually see the aircraft vaporize. It looks as if it were going through a portal- there was hardly any crumpling or deforming, it just impacted and POOF, it was gone. A 757 is a lot bigger than an F-4- but it is also a lot more fragile. As for the wings...well, that's where most of the fuel is in an airliner. You can't expect wreckage from the wings; they would have been burned to ash by the time the fire (which started, primarily, where the fuel was, which was in the wings) was put out. Because the wing root is the strongest part of the wing, it would make sense that they didn't just fall off- if they could just fall off, the damn things would never get off the ground. Evidence tends to support the wings being crushed backwards against the body and burned up with the rest of the plane.
NukeIt15 wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 18:34 You know, insulting people is hardly a way to support your argument. All it does is make everyone think you are immature, irrational, stupid, pinheaded, and seven different forms of fucking moronic. Nobody likes a troll. But since you apparently couldn't give less of a shit, here goes: You, sir, are a fucking moron. You obviously lack any knowledge of physics, aerospace and structural engineering, basic chemistry, common sense, and above all, reality. You are the type of retard who goes around wearing tinfoil hats to keep out the evil government mind control rays. You call these people ignorant and brainwashed? Bloody hell, you fool, listen to YOURSELF! "War for oil!" "Bush killed everyone so he could go to war for oil!" "Conspiracy! Conspiracy oh NOES!!!" I'm not even going to bother writing a rational reply. Know why? Because there's a better chance of pigs landing on the moon than you listening to reality. Emphasis on this bit: YOU ARE MIND-FUCKINGLY STUPID.] But for the rest of you, who actually live in the real world... Would anyone, by any chance, happen to have a link to that concrete wall test video? The one where an F-4 was launched into a concrete wall at high subsonic speed to test the strength of the wall? That would be an excellent vid to show here...because the plane became little more than a stain on the damn wall. There was hardly any wreckage at all; in the slow-motion footage, you can actually see the aircraft vaporize. It looks as if it were going through a portal- there was hardly any crumpling or deforming, it just impacted and POOF, it was gone. A 757 is a lot bigger than an F-4- but it is also a lot more fragile. As for the wings...well, that's where most of the fuel is in an airliner. You can't expect wreckage from the wings; they would have been burned to ash by the time the fire (which started, primarily, where the fuel was, which was in the wings) was put out. Because the wing root is the strongest part of the wing, it would make sense that they didn't just fall off- if they could just fall off, the damn things would never get off the ground. Evidence tends to support the wings being crushed backwards against the body and burned up with the rest of the plane. I have to say you summed it up nicely. It's heat-warming when forum based justice is handed out in such large helpings <3
Wow, I can see you're grasping at straws, IronWarrior. Because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you keep spamming the same bullshit over and over again like you're proving a point. Guess what? YOU'RE NOT! I'm a Christian, so what? We can all believe what we choose to believe. At least I have made it a point to actually believe in something. If you choose not to, whatever, but don't you dare bash my beliefs because you're too insecure about your own. I put 430 at the end of my username because it's my fucking birthday, you moron. Not because I couldn't come up with an original name. For fucks sake, are you TRYING to act stupid? Hey, at least I have a site. The site isn't supposed to look awesome or anything, it's purely for me to toss out thoughts and shit. You're going to insult me becuase I'm overweight? Wow, that takes a lot of talent. What are you, 8? Get the fuck off the internet, kid. You're wasting valuable bandwidth that could be better used by a dancing monkey movie.
IWarriors wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 17:27 am sure you all belive that jesus is going to be coming back to...the ignorance is sicking, none of you can post any facts or stats of anything. Careful, you are treading on very dangerous ground there. Though I'm not surprised you decide to attack a religion as part of your personal attack. I have a very serious question here. Do you have any friends? Because it's been demonstrated here that you do not possess trust for any person in existence. After all, you seem to think that the belief in the unknown is wrong, and I highly doubt that you have a 100% knowledge that the person you call a friend will always be trustworthy. Anything less than absolute certainty is simply a belief that what you think is true, is true. Edit: hmmm, I just noticed something. I have a request for you Ironwarrior, please remove that "courage and honour" from your sig. It's obvious that you have none. It's a cowardly move to attack someone personally, simply because of their weight and choice of religion. It's also highly dishonourable.
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/concreteplane.html Anyone care to watch a plane atomize on impact of a concrete wall.
IWarriors wrote on Thu, 18 August 2005 23:29 feel free to post some pictures...cause they aint any. Here you go: About the hole not being big enough for an airliner to fit in: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_e vidence.html Quote: Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building. Look at the nose-on view of a 757 - you can see the body is slightly less than 1/3 the size of the height of the aircraft. The tail certainly isn't going to punch a hole through a reinforced concrete wall; that is why there is no 40 foot hole in the front of the Pentagon in any photos. A 40 foot object didn't hit it, a 13 foot object did.
Remember, guys: IWarriors wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 16:27 this is my last reply here, your all too ignorant and brainwashed. We're too ignorant and brainwashed.
j_ball430 wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 22:49 Remember, guys: IWarriors wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 16:27 this is my last reply here, your all too ignorant and brainwashed. We're too ignorant and brainwashed. Wait, lemme get this straight, this guys callin us ignorant, but he doesnt even stay to learn the truth? LMAO whos the ignorant one now? And BTW, i was too lazt too look for those pics.
I can assure you it was indeed an airliner that hit the Pentagon. How do I know? I was an eyewitness, and watched the plane roar by my condo. I even have my own footage taken with my own video camera of the Pentagon on fire. So you see, I am not ignorant or brainwashed...I was fucking THERE. Unless you were there as well, I suggest you take the time to read the facts instead of believing everything the fear mongers say.
Blazer wrote on Wed, 24 August 2005 23:25 I can assure you it was indeed an airliner that hit the Pentagon. How do I know? I was an eyewitness, and watched the plane roar by my condo. I even have my own footage taken with my own video camera of the Pentagon on fire. So you see, I am not ignorant or brainwashed...I was fucking THERE. Unless you were there as well, I suggest you take the time to read the facts instead of believing everything the fear mongers say. Thank you! Finally someone with sanity.
I Think Bush Ordered Bin Laden to Attack the WTC and Pentagon. Terrorists are Under US Control, Plain and Simple! Carlyle Group's "THE PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY" was a Praecursor to Sept 11 2001 which contain Red Flags. My View: America is destroying it's own self. Theres an Uprising Evangelical Movement that wants to Assimilate all of America like the Borg in Star Trek. America in my view has become unstable and unmanagaeble. Theres Division in the Republicans and Democrats. By Centurys End or so America will be Shatterd in Micro Countries. States Really don't benefit from the Union cause they nolonger value it's Traditions and History. Washington DC never really Reconizes its own States anymore it's really sad. Thank God I Live in the Dominion of Canada. God Save the Queen!
You fail. Go back to watching your soap operas.
I'm a a Political Researcher and Political Machine. I'm Proud Member of the Liberal Party of Canada and British Columbia. I'm Proud of Canada's Advances: Clarity Act Gun Registry Civil Marriage Rights Charter of Rights and Freedoms etc... Thanks
Hah, it only took Canada almost 200 years to guarentee the rights that are in OUR Constitution. They sure are on top of things!
Gun registry is an advance? That's news to me. Last I checked, it was a giant step backward. This is a thread about a tragedy that happened in the US...you can go on about Canadian politics if you really want to, but that belongs in another thread, not here. And you seriously need to take a reality check and impact your skull with a large, blunt object at high velocity if you believe any of this tinfoil-hat conspiracy-mongering CRAP.
XtremeGaming69 wrote on Wed, 31 August 2005 19:34 Hah, it only took Canada almost 200 years to guarentee the rights that are in OUR Constitution. They sure are on top of things! Not quite. We had them long before America. The only thing that would suggest otherwise is that Canada did not FULLY separate from Britain until 1982. This is when the Queen approved the Canada Act (included is the Charter of Rights and Freedoms)which severed the remaining constitutional and legislative ties with Britain. Prior to that, we were still under the British Common Law system, and the rights of Canadians were declared there.
Gun Registry... hardly an advancement, just a move forward to having your Government and UN take all your guns.
The gun registry is a multi million / billion dollar waste of tax payer money. Why? All it does is punish the people who are good citizens and want to have protection and hunt game and whatnot. Guns are availible on the street and you don't need to 'register' them, so where are the criminals going to buy their guns? As a matter of fact a couple weeks back there was a large bust involving many ilegal weapons. The gun registry didn't really help did it? HIJACK!!!!! =O
It really made me mad when a man in England was charged with attempted murder for protecting his house with a gun. The man was robbed and beaten by a group of teenagers at his house a few months earlier and decided to get a gun to protect his wife and childern. He was robbed again but this time he shot one of the assailants that was approching him with a weapon. Since he owned the gun illegally he was charged with attempted murder and the assailant sued him. Ain't it great, protect the robbers, fuck the home owners. England's regular police don't even usually carry guns... oh yeah I would feel real safe in that country.
The world has it's share of problems everywhere
Have a gun and a knife beside my bed. Glad I've never had to use either. But I'd rather have one and not need it. Than need it, and not have it.