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Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever.
It's so beautiful in its elegant complexity.
Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever.
LOL, ACK you always surprise me with some funny shit.
Explains the situation so even Pro-choicers can understand it!
0wned! [img=http://img98.echo.cx/img98/4820/embryo3copy0hv.th.jpg]
zgunner12 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 02:52 0wned! [img=http://img98.echo.cx/img98/4820/embryo3copy0hv.th.jpg] I see clearly now!
It would be better if destroying species through habitat destruction and overhunting were more comperable to choosing the right to not have children. Abortion will never lead to the extinction of the human race, FYI. But I guess that's just me. By the way, ACK, have you found any reason at all yet to believe that the Clintonites trashed the White House right before they left it to Bush Jr.?
You liberals sicken me. You're shown your hipocricy, but then you just look past it by your lame ass "photoshopping" and your bullshit excuses.
j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 09:36 Abortion will never lead to the extinction of the human race, FYI. But I guess that's just me. Missed the point. The comic is dependant on what is defined by "life". If something is still undeveloped as is the egg in the comic, and is not deemed to be human/animal/living/whatever, then it should be fine to eat the egg. If it is not, becaus ethe animal wil eventually develop into the animal (as the character suggests), then the same wrong can be placed with human embryos as well.
Not a liberal terrorist kinghigh, a Conservative freedom fighter
If this cartoon shows the hypocrisy (which, in my opinion, it does not) of pro-choicers, should it not also show the hypocrisy of pro-lifers? Unless you abortion-clinic bombing types refuse to eat eggs on moral grounds, or something.
warranto wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:18 Missed the point. The comic is dependant on what is defined by "life". If something is still undeveloped as is the egg in the comic, and is not deemed to be human/animal/living/whatever, then it should be fine to eat the egg. If it is not, becaus ethe animal wil eventually develop into the animal (as the character suggests), then the same wrong can be placed with human embryos as well. Well, that's what the comic is trying to say, but not what the real issue is. Environmentalists who protect species aren't interested in the moral issues of eating a developing embryo. It's about letting eggs develop to replenish the species. Which is not the issue of abortionists. Additionally, ACK, how do you know tree hugger pinko commies don't support pro-Life positions? Maybe they're a sect of liberalism that does endorse anti-abortion. Because such a thing does exist. Maybe you're generalizing a bit too much. Because you are.
That is the best comic ever Aircraftkiller. Just awesome.
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:52 warranto wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:18 Missed the point. The comic is dependant on what is defined by "life". If something is still undeveloped as is the egg in the comic, and is not deemed to be human/animal/living/whatever, then it should be fine to eat the egg. If it is not, becaus ethe animal wil eventually develop into the animal (as the character suggests), then the same wrong can be placed with human embryos as well. Well, that's what the comic is trying to say, but not what the real issue is. Environmentalists who protect species aren't interested in the moral issues of eating a developing embryo. It's about letting eggs develop to replenish the species. Which is not the issue of abortionists. Additionally, ACK, how do you know tree hugger pinko commies don't support pro-Life positions? Maybe they're a sect of liberalism that does endorse anti-abortion. Because such a thing does exist. Maybe you're generalizing a bit too much. Because you are. This has nothing to do with enviromentalists. It brings up the idea about "when life begins". Those eggs have the potential to become life (in this case, replenishing a near-extinct species), so the same could be said about any embryos, human or animal, endangered or not.
warranto wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:25 SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:52 warranto wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:18 Missed the point. The comic is dependant on what is defined by "life". If something is still undeveloped as is the egg in the comic, and is not deemed to be human/animal/living/whatever, then it should be fine to eat the egg. If it is not, becaus ethe animal wil eventually develop into the animal (as the character suggests), then the same wrong can be placed with human embryos as well. Well, that's what the comic is trying to say, but not what the real issue is. Environmentalists who protect species aren't interested in the moral issues of eating a developing embryo. It's about letting eggs develop to replenish the species. Which is not the issue of abortionists. Additionally, ACK, how do you know tree hugger pinko commies don't support pro-Life positions? Maybe they're a sect of liberalism that does endorse anti-abortion. Because such a thing does exist. Maybe you're generalizing a bit too much. Because you are. This has nothing to do with enviromentalists. It brings up the idea about "when life begins". Those eggs have the potential to become life (in this case, replenishing a near-extinct species), so the same could be said about any embryos, human or animal, endangered or not. LMAO,Proving somebody wrong again.
mrpirate wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:38 If this cartoon shows the hypocrisy (which, in my opinion, it does not) of pro-choicers, should it not also show the hypocrisy of pro-lifers? Unless you abortion-clinic bombing types refuse to eat eggs on moral grounds, or something. There's nobody but PETA trying to stop others from eating chicken eggs. Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice (unless you're a vegetarian) you probably eat chicken eggs. I do.
Oh sorry, I figured that since this cartoon and aborting human babies were so obviously incongruous (i.e. how does trying to stop a species from going extinct, compared believing humans should be allowed to abort their pregnancies make someone a hypocrite?), my comment wouldn't have to make perfect sense either.
warranto wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 17:25 SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:52 warranto wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 16:18 Missed the point. The comic is dependant on what is defined by "life". If something is still undeveloped as is the egg in the comic, and is not deemed to be human/animal/living/whatever, then it should be fine to eat the egg. If it is not, becaus ethe animal wil eventually develop into the animal (as the character suggests), then the same wrong can be placed with human embryos as well. Well, that's what the comic is trying to say, but not what the real issue is. Environmentalists who protect species aren't interested in the moral issues of eating a developing embryo. It's about letting eggs develop to replenish the species. Which is not the issue of abortionists. Additionally, ACK, how do you know tree hugger pinko commies don't support pro-Life positions? Maybe they're a sect of liberalism that does endorse anti-abortion. Because such a thing does exist. Maybe you're generalizing a bit too much. Because you are. This has nothing to do with enviromentalists. It brings up the idea about "when life begins". Those eggs have the potential to become life (in this case, replenishing a near-extinct species), so the same could be said about any embryos, human or animal, endangered or not. When I said environmentalists, I meant species protecting people. And the cartoon wants to bring up the idea, but, as mrpirate says it, the two are "incongrous". Species aren't under ther endangered list because there are more ethical reasons against eating them rather than other animals. It's so the species can be rehabilitated from Republican hunters killing animals to the point of extinction. It's not an issue of when life begins there.
kinghigh1 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 14:34 j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die.
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 03:43 When I said environmentalists, I meant species protecting people. And the cartoon wants to bring up the idea, but, as mrpirate says it, the two are "incongrous". Species aren't under ther endangered list because there are more ethical reasons against eating them rather than other animals. It's so the species can be rehabilitated from Republican hunters killing animals to the point of extinction. It's not an issue of when life begins there. It's funny to watch you try to back up this bullshit argument even when it's been brutalized by Warranto. Keep kicking, Tool! It's entertaining watching you try to keep above water when you're in over your head!
"SFE" It's not an issue of when life begins there. Yes, yes I'm afraid it is. Its a "Political" cartoon, not an environmentalist cartoon. That means Its trying to spread a "Political" message. The cartoon goes on to say that the eggs are just an undeveloped clump of cells that don't breate, fly, or experience pain. This is what Pro-choice believers think is true of an Embryo. Stop trying to talk around the message intended please, its really pathetic. Btw, in case you don't know, being a Republican and Being a Poacher are two different things.
cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 09:53 And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die. Your avatar makes you look a lot smarter than you actually are. gbull Yes, yes I'm afraid it is. Its a "Political" cartoon, not an environmentalist cartoon. That means Its trying to spread a "Political" message. The cartoon goes on to say that the eggs are just an undeveloped clump of cells that don't breate, fly, or experience pain. This is what Pro-choice believers think is true of an Embryo. Stop trying to talk around the message intended please, its really pathetic. I believe eggs are an undeveloped clumo of cells that don't carry out real functions of organisms until right before egress from the egg. I'm quite pro-egg eating, since I don't believe it is murder. Neither do I believe abortions before a certain point are murder, either. But that's not the issue of species protection. I'm not trying to avoid the message, I'm trying to say, straight up, that the message is wrong. EDIT: Errors with quotation system.
The point of the cartoon is to show that liberals will protect the destruction of underdeveloped endangered species (which are illegal to kill/hunt/etc...), but will not try and stop women from the destruction of underdeveloped human beings (which are illegal to kill).
But wouldn't you agree that the destruction of entire species and the destruction of underdeveloped fetuses created by the person who chooses to not have a child are different things? By the way, in case you all don't know my stance on abortion, it is this: I believe abortions should be legal because in some cases children have no place growing up and would be deeply underpriveleged throughout their whole lives. I also believe abortions should be sparsely used, and as a last resort to failed contraception.
Almost forgot to post my own cartoon. EDIT: I had a better one, but the link broke.
Now that one was good. media could say anything and people would believe it. Like when they said success about the war, but clearly it was a failure.
Ah, its racist tendencies come out yet again. Not only does he support the party that has Senator Byrd, the former KKK member and avowed mean mean black person hater in it, he also likes reading Tom Tomorrow cartoons that featured Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell being referred to as "House Niggas" in a very demeaning way. Too bad it can't accept that the black people don't have to be confined to your little plantation to be your social slaves. When they escape from it, people like you find it prudent to bash them. Yes, that's a great strategy for you - bash the same minorities that you supposedly care about. You're filth, super fungal infection.
cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 08:53 kinghigh1 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 14:34 j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die. Fuck fighting him, I wanna do worst than just fight him. With all this shit going on "Bush" the one driving the bus toward the downfall. He kepping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor. If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free,just so they can work for minion wage.
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:35 But wouldn't you agree that the destruction of entire species and the destruction of underdeveloped fetuses created by the person who chooses to not have a child are different things? Nope. Life is life, regardless of whose life it is. If you are going to say that the "destruction of underdevelp[ed fetuses" is bad for one thing, then it applies to everything. There is no "life beings for animals at an eariler time than humans". If you are going to lable the eating of an endangered species as "killing" the animal, then the same thing applies to humans.
warranto wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:33 SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:35 But wouldn't you agree that the destruction of entire species and the destruction of underdeveloped fetuses created by the person who chooses to not have a child are different things? Nope. Life is life, regardless of whose life it is. If you are going to say that the "destruction of underdevelp[ed fetuses" is bad for one thing, then it applies to everything. There is no "life beings for animals at an eariler time than humans". If you are going to lable the eating of an endangered species as "killing" the animal, then the same thing applies to humans. Warranto ,you better at this then me, so I'll tell you and you type it out for me.
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 11:43 Almost forgot to post my own cartoon. EDIT: I had a better one, but the link broke. So typical of Democrat 'humor'... it's not funny at all, not subtle. Whereas the comic posted at the beginning of this thread was subtle and clever.
That cartoon had absolutely no grasp to reality.
Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 15:19 Ah, its racist tendencies come out yet again. Not only does he support the party that has Senator Byrd, the former KKK member and avowed mean mean black person hater in it, he also likes reading Tom Tomorrow cartoons that featured Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell being referred to as "House Niggas" in a very demeaning way. Too bad it can't accept that the black people don't have to be confined to your little plantation to be your social slaves. When they escape from it, people like you find it prudent to bash them. Yes, that's a great strategy for you - bash the same minorities that you supposedly care about. You're filth, super fungal infection. You certainly wouldn't mind showing where they're referred to in that way, would you? warranto Nope. Life is life, regardless of whose life it is. If you are going to say that the "destruction of underdevelp[ed fetuses" is bad for one thing, then it applies to everything. There is no "life beings for animals at an eariler time than humans". If you are going to lable the eating of an endangered species as "killing" the animal, then the same thing applies to humans. I'm not labelling it as killing the animal. I, personally, label it as killing the animal potentiate. Which is what needs to live to become an actual animal. That's the point of endangered species having protected eggs and such. Not because it's more ethical to not let them die. If that where the case, you couldn't buy chicken eggs at the store. But you can. Crimson So typical of Democrat 'humor'... it's not funny at all, not subtle. Whereas the comic posted at the beginning of this thread was subtle and clever. Oh, please. The cartoon that started this thread said exactly what it was referring to. The most it did subtly was link two dissimilar topics, which is no great feat. I personally believe no one can glean much humor from political cartoons unless you agree with what it's trying to say. The closest I've come is chuckling at one cartoon in the National Review.
Bush isn't the wisest leader ever, but he's on the right side. You liberals have managed to stall him so he's just riding out his term. During his first term he was kicking ass all over the place, but you just kept whining and whining and now he's just trying to maintain. I wish he would realize though that he's set. He can't get reelected anyhow, he should follow his morals and act.
Doitle wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 15:48 Bush isn't the wisest leader ever, but he's on the right side. You liberals have managed to stall him so he's just riding out his term. During his first term he was kicking ass all over the place, but you just kept whining and whining and now he's just trying to maintain. I wish he would realize though that he's set. He can't get reelected anyhow, he should follow his morals and act. Amen!
I find it funny that you are too stupid to realize you just insulted yourself with that comment. Tard.
kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 15:52 Doitle wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 15:48 Bush isn't the wisest leader ever, but he's on the right side. You liberals have managed to stall him so he's just riding out his term. During his first term he was kicking ass all over the place, but you just kept whining and whining and now he's just trying to maintain. I wish he would realize though that he's set. He can't get reelected anyhow, he should follow his morals and act. Amen! If i knew how to break this Quote shit down,I would have quoted the part about"He Can't get reelected."Bush isn't the wisest leader ever, " I'm trying to be nice
Of couse he can't get re-elected, you tardkart. This is his second term.
kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:52 cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 08:53 kinghigh1 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 14:34 j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die. Fuck fighting him, I wanna do worst than just fight him. With all this shit going on "Bush" the one driving the bus toward the downfall. He kepping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor. If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free,just so they can work for minion wage. I didn't think anyone could be a bigger idiot than the Tool, I guess I was wrong. After spending an hour trying to find out what language your speaking, I've come to the conclusion that you suck. "He keeping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor." Its not his fault if your rich or poor, get off your lazy ass and get a job. In America they're are no poor people, only lazy. You have all the doors open to you, try your best, work hard and you can have anything you want in our nation. "If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free" So you want to close the boarders, or put a price to get allowed into America and have freedom? Thats very anti-liberal of you. You just denied your own point, He lets the (we'll pick for this example) Mexicans into America for free and your against that? I thought you wanted people to be able to get out of poverty? They're looking for a better life, they're damn hard workers. He's allowing them to come here for free, and letting them make minimum wage when they get here (some cases this is broken and paid less, but this isn't a perfect world). Guess what, that minimum wage is a hell of a lot of money to them, its a start. From that leap, they can go on and do great things in our Nation they most likely could have never dreamed of in they're native nation. If thats not helping the poor I don't know what is. Now before you respond to this, please use the new little spell check feature its great, and lets not forget to see if our sentences are comprehend able too.
cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 17:21 Its not his fault if your rich or poor, get off your lazy ass and get a job. In America they're are no poor people, only lazy. You have all the doors open to you, try your best, work hard and you can have anything you want in our nation. This made me laugh. I suppose you're talking from your wealth of personal experience, eh?
Im not poor, and its due to my father not being lazy and me not being lazy. Probably the same for cowmisfit. If your lazy(and I see a lot of people who are) you won't go anywhere in life. America shouldnt have to feed you, feed yourself. Always been my motto.
If your family is extremely rich, you can be as lazy as you like and live a life of luxury, whereas if you're born into a poor family and can never afford to get an education it's going to be rather tough to make a lot of money.
mrpirate wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 17:47 If your family is extremely rich, you can be as lazy as you like and live a life of luxury, whereas if you're born into a poor family and can never afford to get an education it's going to be rather tough to make a lot of money. Do you have any idea how many different kinds of scholarships and ways to get the money to go to college there are? Just because it would be harder for you than another doesn't mean you shouldn't try.
Doitle wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 16:48 Bush isn't the wisest leader ever, but he's on the right side. You liberals have managed to stall him so he's just riding out his term. During his first term he was kicking ass all over the place, but you just kept whining and whining and now he's just trying to maintain. I wish he would realize though that he's set. He can't get reelected anyhow, he should follow his morals and act. You mean stalled by the 10 filibusters in both of Bush Jr.'s terms? cowmisfit Its not his fault if your rich or poor, get off your lazy ass and get a job. In America they're are no poor people, only lazy. You have all the doors open to you, try your best, work hard and you can have anything you want in our nation. Clinton proved that poor people aren't poor because they are poor, it's because there aren't any jobs for someone with an average intelligence. 90 IQ isn't much for the average person, and if there aren't enough easy store jobs open, they're not going to be able to get a job without a degree. Sure, some people are lazy, but very few. Try living on no money for a year and then tell me that you honestly believe all people without jobs are just lazy and don't want one. But I suppose I'm the stupid one for not believing Republican talking points where they alienate their own party. cowmisfit (some cases this is broken and paid less, but this isn't a perfect world) The whole point of Bush's immigration policy is that immigrants can come in and get paid less than the minimum wage so his big company farmer friends can have what amounts to slave labor, farmers who have no representation, don't really exist in the country, and can't leave their situation because of a lack of economic options. BTW: I saw the impossible today. A Republican Texas Represenative [Ron Paul] taking an anti-war stance on C-SPAN. Guess his mind drugs wore off.
Are you saying that for each child growing up poor in America, there is a scholarship? I never said anything about trying or not trying--if you don't have an education it is harder to get a good job.
SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 16:41 I'm not labelling it as killing the animal. I, personally, label it as killing the animal potentiate. Which is what needs to live to become an actual animal. That's the point of endangered species having protected eggs and such. Not because it's more ethical to not let them die. If that where the case, you couldn't buy chicken eggs at the store. But you can. And all I'm saying is that the exact same mentality applies to all potential living things, be them endangered or not. I'm not even talking about the ethics involved, or, as this thread revolves around, whether or not abortion is wrong. All I'm saying is that the same definition of life is to be applied to everything, and not changed based on how a particular group feels about a specific subject. That there is hypocricy at its finest. I'll restate what I previously said in a slightly different way, perhaps that will explain it better. If you are going say that destroying the egg of an endangered species is wrong because it stops the potential life of something, then the same mentality has to be applied to humans/chickens/whatever as far as what the definitaion of life is. Not whether it is right or wrong to do the act, but what "life" is defined as. Then, from that definition, it can be argued whether or not the act is something good or bad; be it human life, california condor life, or chicken life.
ANY person who isn't mentally retarded (not meaning as an insult) has the capacity to be successful, and at the very least, support themselves. My upbringing was shitty at best. My parents could barely afford school clothes, and I had to deal with physical and emotional abuse from both of my parents. But I decided I wasn't going to let that affect me once I was 18. If I can do it, anyone can. And I didn't work this hard only to have to support the slobs who made wrong decisions in their lives.
Quote: Are you saying that for each child growing up poor in America, there is a scholarship? I never said anything about trying or not trying--if you don't have an education it is harder to get a good job. You don't need a college deegree to get a decent job and High School is free. So, there you go.
cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 16:21 kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:52 cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 08:53 kinghigh1 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 14:34 j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die. Fuck fighting him, I wanna do worst than just fight him. With all this shit going on "Bush" the one driving the bus toward the downfall. He kepping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor. If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free,just so they can work for minion wage. I didn't think anyone could be a bigger idiot than the Tool, I guess I was wrong. After spending an hour trying to find out what language your speaking, I've come to the conclusion that you suck. "He keeping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor." Its not his fault if your rich or poor, get off your lazy ass and get a job. In America they're are no poor people, only lazy. You have all the doors open to you, try your best, work hard and you can have anything you want in our nation. "If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free" So you want to close the boarders, or put a price to get allowed into America and have freedom? Thats very anti-liberal of you. You just denied your own point, He lets the (we'll pick for this example) Mexicans into America for free and your against that? I thought you wanted people to be able to get out of poverty? They're looking for a better life, they're damn hard workers. He's allowing them to come here for free, and letting them make minimum wage when they get here (some cases this is broken and paid less, but this isn't a perfect world). Guess what, that minimum wage is a hell of a lot of money to them, its a start. From that leap, they can go on and do great things in our Nation they most likely could have never dreamed of in they're native nation. If thats not helping the poor I don't know what is. Now before you respond to this, please use the new little spell check feature its great, and lets not forget to see if our sentences are comprehend able too. All that,you think you right? huh You gotta have money to pay people to cut your lawn, otherwise you would cut it yourself.So instead of paying someone with lawn expirence 40 dollars to cut the lawn.You pay a illegal immigrant to cut it for 10 dollars.thats keeping the rich ,rich and keeping the poor with expirence , poor. FYI Comprehendable is one word not two!
House niggas cartoon.
...What makes that a Tom Tomorrow cartoon? I can't read anything "Tom Tomorrow" on the margins of the panels, and it's not illustrated like a Tom Tomorrow comic, either.
kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 19:07 cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 16:21 kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:52 cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 08:53 kinghigh1 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 14:34 j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die. Fuck fighting him, I wanna do worst than just fight him. With all this shit going on "Bush" the one driving the bus toward the downfall. He kepping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor. If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free,just so they can work for minion wage. I didn't think anyone could be a bigger idiot than the Tool, I guess I was wrong. After spending an hour trying to find out what language your speaking, I've come to the conclusion that you suck. "He keeping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor." Its not his fault if your rich or poor, get off your lazy ass and get a job. In America they're are no poor people, only lazy. You have all the doors open to you, try your best, work hard and you can have anything you want in our nation. "If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free" So you want to close the boarders, or put a price to get allowed into America and have freedom? Thats very anti-liberal of you. You just denied your own point, He lets the (we'll pick for this example) Mexicans into America for free and your against that? I thought you wanted people to be able to get out of poverty? They're looking for a better life, they're damn hard workers. He's allowing them to come here for free, and letting them make minimum wage when they get here (some cases this is broken and paid less, but this isn't a perfect world). Guess what, that minimum wage is a hell of a lot of money to them, its a start. From that leap, they can go on and do great things in our Nation they most likely could have never dreamed of in they're native nation. If thats not helping the poor I don't know what is. Now before you respond to this, please use the new little spell check feature its great, and lets not forget to see if our sentences are comprehend able too. All that,you think you right? huh You gotta have money to pay people to cut your lawn, otherwise you would cut it yourself.So instead of paying someone with lawn expirence 40 dollars to cut the lawn.You pay a illegal immigrant to cut it for 10 dollars.thats keeping the rich ,rich and keeping the poor with expirence , poor. FYI Comprehendable is one word not two! What the fuck, write that in english and I'll get back to ya.
prox wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 18:56 Quote: Are you saying that for each child growing up poor in America, there is a scholarship? I never said anything about trying or not trying--if you don't have an education it is harder to get a good job. You don't need a college deegree to get a decent job and High School is free. So, there you go. ^^^^ has a point. I go to PUBLIC high school, By the time I'm out I'll have my CCNA cisco cert (Next year will be my final year of this course, then i go take test), A+ cert (done with course, just gotta go take test) and Windows Applications certifications(I begin this class next year), aka I can get a pretty damn job with out college, but I'm gonna go anyway.
Oh, sorry. I got Ted Rall and Tom Tomorrow mixed up since they both make the same kind of crappy jokes and poorly drawn cartoons. Either way Tom Tomorrow's cartoons are bland, uninteresting, and predictable. They always have the same message behind them. You can read any TT cartoon and know exactly what he'll say next. It's offensive, disgusting, and meant for people like you who can't think for themselves.
But you gotta give it credit for not referring to people as house niggas.
prox wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 19:26 You don't need a college deegree to get a decent job and High School is free. So, there you go. That's if you consider flipping meat on a shit-burner a "decent job".
It does pay a lot better than other jobs do. At least, that's what I hear, so I guess it'd be considered a decent job.
Quote: That's if you consider flipping meat on a shit-burner a "decent job". Just a couple of things you can do with a High School Diploma: If you're bilingual: A translator at a court. I forget how much it pays, but its way more than what the average teacher gets paid in New York City, and it's only a five hour or so a day job. For everyone: Programmer. I know, it's boring to most people. But guess what? It pays good and you don't need a college deegree. This applies to most areas of computer related stuff too. As long as you know how to do it, you don't need a college deegree. Also, being a garbage man is a "shitty" decent job. Not that I would consider it but, $60,000 a year for picking garbage here and there isn't something a "poor" person would pass up, and it sure beats the hell out of burgerking. There are endless careers one can consider with only a High School diploma, but I'm not listing every one of them. EDIT: And if you're talented well um...yeah.
I just realized that those crazy Texans who want to shut down the internet would be putting thousands of people out of jobs. Web designers, internet-based buisnesses such as NewEgg, TigerDirect, ServerMatrix, ThePlanet, etc...
cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 19:44 kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 19:07 cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 16:21 kinghigh1 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 14:52 cowmisfit wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 08:53 kinghigh1 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 14:34 j_ball430 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 11:04 You liberals sicken me. This guy anti-liberal terrorist And your an enemy of America. Your fighting against your President in a time of War. If J_Ball is an terrorist because he hates liberal ideas that are leading to the downfall of America then your a murderer for supporting liberal causes that spread propaganda and get our Soilders killed. Die. Fuck fighting him, I wanna do worst than just fight him. With all this shit going on "Bush" the one driving the bus toward the downfall. He kepping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor. If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free,just so they can work for minion wage. I didn't think anyone could be a bigger idiot than the Tool, I guess I was wrong. After spending an hour trying to find out what language your speaking, I've come to the conclusion that you suck. "He keeping the rich, Rich and keeping the Poor, poor." Its not his fault if your rich or poor, get off your lazy ass and get a job. In America they're are no poor people, only lazy. You have all the doors open to you, try your best, work hard and you can have anything you want in our nation. "If he wanted to help the poor, he wouldn't have let all them illegal immigrants in for free" So you want to close the boarders, or put a price to get allowed into America and have freedom? Thats very anti-liberal of you. You just denied your own point, He lets the (we'll pick for this example) Mexicans into America for free and your against that? I thought you wanted people to be able to get out of poverty? They're looking for a better life, they're damn hard workers. He's allowing them to come here for free, and letting them make minimum wage when they get here (some cases this is broken and paid less, but this isn't a perfect world). Guess what, that minimum wage is a hell of a lot of money to them, its a start. From that leap, they can go on and do great things in our Nation they most likely could have never dreamed of in they're native nation. If thats not helping the poor I don't know what is. Now before you respond to this, please use the new little spell check feature its great, and lets not forget to see if our sentences are comprehend able too. All that,you think you right? huh You gotta have money to pay people to cut your lawn, otherwise you would cut it yourself.So instead of paying someone with lawn expirence 40 dollars to cut the lawn.You pay a illegal immigrant to cut it for 10 dollars.thats keeping the rich ,rich and keeping the poor with expirence , poor. FYI Comprehendable is one word not two! What the fuck, write that in english and I'll get back to ya. lol You Owned!
Or... maybe he's saying that you can't type a coherent sentence that he won't dignify your gibberish with a response until you type where he doesn't have to strain (what few brain cells he has ) to read it.
j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 14 June 2005 21:19 Or... maybe he's saying that you can't type a coherent sentence that he won't dignify your gibberish with a response until you type where he doesn't have to strain (what few brain cells he has ) to read it. How much you make for Jocking his balls? I see were you get the name j ball.
Instead of dignifying that with a response, I'll attack your contradiction once again. You keep claiming you're going to be the bigger man, but yet you keep coming back with these (lame) insults. Which road are you going to take? The high road, which you *claim* you're going to take, or the road that you've been taking since the day you got here? Pick one, no u-turns.
Only replying to your so called insults,I never said anything until you came out the side of your neck.shit don't reply shit about me or concerning me. you get it now lets see who insult first
kighhigh, every time you post I lose a brain cell. Only 2 million more posts until they start to look intelligent to me.
How did I even insult you in that one post? All I did was explain as to why he posted what he did. I did insult someone in that post, but it wasn't you, it was cowmisfit. Keep continuing with your incoherent posts, this is fun.
lol, gbull this fun, I know already otherwise people wouldn't reply.
The only difference between rich people and poor people is also the only similarity: The rich keep doing the things that make them rich; the poor keep doing the things that make them poor.
No, the rich do the things that make them richer and the poor poorer. Since Reagan, the rich have been screwing Americans.
That's a great statement, asshole; now substantiate it with maybe something other than a completely meaningless graph you sucked out of Ted Kennedy's cock to try to intimidate us. "Oooo, look at my chart! My statement is legitimate! Be intimidated by my superior knowledge!" That crap may work among people your age and who lack any ability to think for themselves (like you), SuperFlyingLiberalTool, but it doesn't hold any water when you try to debate with adults (some young) who can think for themselves. After you make your feeble attempt to explain your completely illogical position, you can crawl back into Clinton's asshole, SuperFlyingLiberalTool.
I didn't go to college and I make MORE than enough money not to have to suck on the taxpayers' teats. All my education was free, and all I had to do was show up.
Hydra wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 00:35 That's a great statement, asshole; now substantiate it with maybe something other than a completely meaningless graph you sucked out of Ted Kennedy's cock to try to intimidate us. "Oooo, look at my chart! My statement is legitimate! Be intimidated by my superior knowledge!" That crap may work among people your age and who lack any ability to think for themselves (like you), SuperFlyingLiberalTool, but it doesn't hold any water when you try to debate with adults (some young) who can think for themselves. After you make your feeble attempt to explain your completely illogical position, you can crawl back into Clinton's asshole, SuperFlyingLiberalTool. Are you going to attack him endlessly or- gee I don't know- actually contribute something important to the flow of the thread? Wait, don't answer, let me write your response in advance for you. Thank me later. Hydra, sometime in the future Prox, you fucking stupid braindead liberal scum. You must be a braindead liberal since you are defending one therefore I'll just assume. Shut the fuck up and fucking go suck on fucking Clinton's cock some more. ************** Yeah, there are some people out there with just High School diplomas that make even more than people with college deegrees, so you don't need college for a kickass job. That was my point.
lol,The movie 8 miles comes to mind.
Yeah, hydra, I almost decided to respond to you.... but then I thought better of it. So you know, you used to actually be worthwhile to talk to, with genuine political ideas and... not as many slanders. But I'm afraid you went off your cranky old man pills. Come back once you've found them again.
Hes mad all the time because you follow liberals so close you can see Ted Kennedy's rectum. And his rectum blinds you from everything else around you.
kinghigh1 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 08:38 lol,The movie 8 miles comes to mind. How the hell does some low life piece of crap like Emeinem and his crappy movie come into play here?
cowmisfit wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 14:41 kinghigh1 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 08:38 lol,The movie 8 miles comes to mind. How the hell does some low life piece of crap like Emeinem and his crappy movie come into play here? I mean that Prox left hydra with no comeback. And to think you were a your a skaterboy,8 miles one of ya'll cult classics right
What the hell, do you ever read what you type? I mean seriously, I'm no one to comment on spelling before the spell check, but your sentences sound like you just graduated from 2nd grade. 8 Mile a cult classic ? 8 Mile is a classic piece of garbage and classic showing that America is going down the hill because of Rap Music, just look at how many kids even wanted to learn about some disgrace of a human being like Marshal Mather's.
cowmisfit wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 16:57 What the hell, do you ever read what you type? I mean seriously, I'm no one to comment on spelling before the spell check, but your sentences sound like you just graduated from 2nd grade. 8 Mile a cult classic ? 8 Mile is a classic piece of garbage and classic showing that America is going down the hill because of Rap Music, just look at how many kids even wanted to learn about some disgrace of a human being like Marshal Mather's. you right,
lol, how in the hell do you connect rap and skating??? Most skaters I know like rock songs like me.
gbull wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 20:23 lol, how in the hell do you connect rap and skating??? Most skaters I know like rock songs like me. Because he's a misinformed 14 year old who only knows skateboarding from Tony Hawk's Pro skater , That sk8r Boi song and MTV. I fucking hate my generation.
cowmisfit wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 20:44 gbull wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 20:23 lol, how in the hell do you connect rap and skating??? Most skaters I know like rock songs like me. Because he's a misinformed 14 year old who only knows skateboarding from Tony Hawk's Pro skater , That sk8r Boi song and MTV. I fucking hate my generation. You getting better.
prox wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 07:47 Are you going to attack him endlessly or- gee I don't know- actually contribute something important to the flow of the thread? I'll stop once he starts demonstrating that he has the ability to think for himself and stops spewing bullshit like "Rich people screw over the poor!" Check my post previous to the one you're referring to--is that not "contributing something important to the flow of the thread"? Besides, when has the Tool EVER "contributed something important to the flow of the thread" that wasn't just another reycled argument he found on democraticunderground.com?
So you know, I've literally read democraticunderground.com once, and that was to spite Aurora.
I've always found it a bit ironic that people always accuse those who take a different view point than their own as being "unable to think for themselves."
A different view from mine? no. But when ALL of your views follow that of a political party you it becomes plain obvious you don't think for yourself. I consider myself conservative but I don't agree with everything Republicans do. For instance: I don't like the Bush Administration's policy on Illegal Immigrants. Instead of letting them all in we should have more security along the American Mexican Border, like a god damn electric fence that goes 15 foot high and 10 foot deep.
gbull wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 08:20 A different view from mine? no. But when ALL of your views follow that of a political party you it becomes plain obvious you don't think for yourself. I consider myself conservative but I don't agree with everything Republicans do. For instance: I don't like the Bush Administration's policy on Illegal Immigrants. Instead of letting them all in we should have more security along the American Mexican Border, like a god damn electric fence that goes 15 foot high and 10 foot deep. Speak on,I'm with you on that.
I wasn't talking about Engi specifically, in fact I've seen him say it as well. And, gbull, if what you say is true, a number of the conservatives on this forum, as well as the liberal(s?) would incapable of thinking for themselves.
Just so I know do american's see Liberalism as kind of the same as Communism? Because I've notices the "Republicans" use it in the same kind of tone I use Communism, ie scum.
I still say the 4th comment was the best...
Toolstyle wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 20:01 Just so I know do american's see Liberalism as kind of the same as Communism? Because I've notices the "Republicans" use it in the same kind of tone I use Communism, ie scum. Well, Republicans, namely the smear tactic kind, like to make believe a lot, specifically, make believe into thinking that liberalism is bad and awful and endorses baby eating and is led by Osama, etc. etc. To answer your question, no, only a few do.
Wait a minute SFE! Your graphic on percent change of income. What evil magic is being perpetrated here! The Rich with money, are making MORE money? Hmm... HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE. Oh wait... Never mind. Invest 100$ and then Invest 1,000,000$ SFE. You tell me which makes more in interest.
It's how much their after-tax income changed, Doitle. Namely, the rich make twice as much now as they did back in the day, and the poor make like 10% more. Not sure whether it's adjusted for inflation, though.
Uh-huh, so everyone is making more money... and you see that as a bad thing? Excuse me, how are rich people screwing the poor again? Oh, right, because all rich people achieved their positions in life because of the poor people they stepped on to get there, right? EDIT: What the hell does the rich screwing the poor have to do with the political cartoon, anyway?
Toolstyle wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 19:31 Just so I know do american's see Liberalism as kind of the same as Communism? Because I've notices the "Republicans" use it in the same kind of tone I use Communism, ie scum. Actually most Conservatives in this forum think for themselves. Take j_ball430 for example, just look at his sig and you can obviously see he doesnt follow Republicans blindly.
As much as I would like to agree that conservatives are smarter, nicer, more attractive, and smell better than their liberal counter parts... "Doitle" Again you are straying far from Conservative mantra. WARNING: Independent thought detected. Before you all get mad at me here I'm not entirely serious. But until one begins to form one's opinions completely independently of any input from the outside world, it would seem unreasonable to say someone cannot think for themselves because they see things differently.
Hydra wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 00:14 Uh-huh, so everyone is making more money... and you see that as a bad thing? Excuse me, how are rich people screwing the poor again? Oh, right, because all rich people achieved their positions in life because of the poor people they stepped on to get there, right? Because the richest of the rich are taking all the new money in the country. There was a better chart in the Times, but that was about a month ago and I don't have the copy anymore.
So far, you've recycled the same statement four times in this thread alone; you keep saying WHAT the "rich" are doing to "screw over" the "poor," but you never explain HOW they are doing it. C'mon, Tool, I really want to see your explanation of how rich people screw over poor people. EDIT: Let's continue this discussion here.