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Well basically which do you think wil lcome out on top? Although the 360 looks like a great system I reckon the PS3 will pull through most. Each system has it's own ups and downs, 360 beats PS3 in some places and vice versa, the PS3 beats 360 in other places. In my opinion the Playstation 3 is overall better than the 360 and will pull through more. Release Dates: PS3 - 2006 XBOX 360 - 2005 Controller: PS3 - Bluetooth Wireless XBOX 360 - 2.4Gh Wireless Graphics core clock speed: PS3 - 550 MHz XBOX 360 - 500 MHz Graphics Processor: PS3 - RSX "Reality Synthesizer" XBOX 360 - Custom ATI Processor System memory: PS3 - 256Mb XDR XBOX 360 - 512 MB UMA (Shared with GPU) Video Memory: PS3 - 256Mb XBOX 360 - 512 MB UMA (Shared with CPU) Embedded Video Memory: PS3 - N/A XBOX 360 - 10MB eDRAM Resolution: PS3 - 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p XBOX 360 - 480p, 480i, 720p, 1080i Controller ports: PS3 - Supports up to 7 Bluetooth Controllers XBOX 360 - Supports up to 4 Controllers Digital Media Formats: PS3 - Compatible with CR-ROM, CDR+W, DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R XBOX 360 - DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD Game Media Format: PS3 - Blu-ray BD-ROM (see below) XBOX 360 - Dual-Layer DVD-ROM Integrated Communications: PS3 - 802.11 B/G Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.0 XBOX 360 - 802.11 A/B/G Wi-Fi ready, adapter not included Other I/O Connectors: PS3 - Ethernet (RJ45), 6 USB 2.0, CF Slot (Type I, II), SD Slot (Regular, Compact), Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo, 1 x Optical Audio XBOX 360 - 3 USB 2.0, 2 Memory Slots, Ethernet Port (RJ45) Plug and Play Storage: PS3 - 2.5in Removable Hard Drive (Unkown Size) XBOX 360 - 20GB Removable Hard Drive Standard AV Output Connectors: PS3 - 2 x HDMI, 1 x AV XBOX 360 - n/a L2 Cache: PS3 - 512KB L2 cache, 256KB per SPE XBOX 360 - 1MB Processor: PS3 - Cell Processor XBOX 360 - Custom IBM PowerPC CPU Processor Clock Speed: PS3 - 3.2 GHz XBOX 360 - 3.2 GHz Built-in Features: PS3 - Backward Compatible with PlayStation 2, Stands Vertically or Horizontally XBOX 360 - Backward Compatible with Xbox (limited), Stands Vertically or Horizontally, Interchangable Face Plates, Xbox Live Service, Media Center Extender Memory Bandwidth: PS3 - 25.6 GB/s main memory bandwidth, 22.4 GB/s video memory bandwidth XBOX 360 - 22.4 GB/s main memory bandwidth, 256 GB/s to eDRAM, 21.6 GB/s FSB Surround Sound: PS3 - Multichannel Output (software driven) XBOX 360 - Multichannel Output (software driven) There are the facts, make up your own mind.
Hardware wise they are pretty similar. I reckon it will be down to what console has the most diverse range of games. And since they have consoles prior to them there will be plenty of games for each. There wont be much difference in performance so the perofmance factor isn't a great issue.. I can't really decide as of yet. *NOTE: I love the specs on them. I may actually just get both consoles in the end :P*
xptek Note: Consoles suck.
Playstation 3. Quote: System memory: PS3 - 256Mb XDR XBOX 360 - 512 MB UMA (Shared with GPU) Video Memory: PS3 - 256Mb XBOX 360 - 512 MB UMA (Shared with CPU) Just a little addition... The PS3's system memory is XDR RAM @ 3.2GHZ (runs at the same speed as the processor), and it's video memory is GDDR3 RAM @ 700MHZ, while the Xbox 360's memory is only GDDR3 RAM @ 700MHZ. The PS3 will support/use Blu-Ray BD-ROMs, each with a capacity of about 50GB (double layered), as far as I've seen, the PS3 is the only one out of the two that will support a next generation media/disk.
I would say the PS3. This is because of the little things that the 360 skimp on, like the limited backward compatibility, the HDD (that shouldn't be an option), etc., and the face plates sound like a lame gimmick. And 7 controller "ports" for the PS3? SCHWING! No more buying multi-taps.
PS3 all the way for me. Although, I must admit that it's rather hilarious that Microsoft is putting a PowerPC chips in their gaming console. So much for any thought of backwards compatibility regarding previous XBOX games, eh?
ps3...so i can feel special and have all 3 of them
im not buyin any of the new consoles this time around if i was forced too.. i'd prolly swing towards xbox
hunteroo2 ps3...so i can feel special and have all 3 of them Yeah I feel the same way lol
Also, with the PS3, you can also plug in two HDTVs to a single PS3 (I've seen 30" HDTVs for about $800-900.). This would be awesome with offline multiplayer, you could play splitscreen without the splitscreen.
PS3 if I had to choose. I'd probably spend the money for one to upgrade my computer though.
All I can say is that finally consoles are coming out of the dark ages in the area of high performance hardware. (In comparison to PC's)
Both consoles sucks. I am going to get new parts to my computer in fall. And those parts makes my PC more faster than consoles.
I don't care as I won't be able to afford either one Besides, PC versions of games 0wn console versions.
Not always, and consoles generally have games that you can't play on a PC. The Ace Combat series that Namco makes for the Playstation line, for example.
I'm not such a big fan of consoles myself, but thats because I dont like controllers since I'm a fan of Shoot em up games, so I find controllers hard to shoot with when I'm trying to shoot someone and I'm aiming all around the ceiling and floor etc... I love my mouse ^_^
it's so easy to aim and shoot with a mouse as compared to a console controller, though. I don't think there's any achievement in being good at that, unless you are a 40 year old housewife who just got into games with no prior experience. The playstation series is more popular than the Xbox and has been since the original playstation (when Xbox didn't even exist) and the PS3 seems to boast more than the Xbox 360 here, apart from their system and video memory. I'm sure the console will make up for that though.
And the fact that the Xbox 360 controller looks like the gamecube controller... :crazy:
Smart move considering the gamecube controller was the best out of all the current generation consoles. I probably won't get either of these, I'd rather a new computer. After the new Zelda comes out for GC that's probably the end of consoles for me.
flyingfox The playstation series is more popular than the Xbox and has been since the original playstation (when Xbox didn't even exist) and the PS3 seems to boast more than the Xbox 360 here, apart from their system and video memory. I'm sure the console will make up for that though. From what I've seen, the PS3's system and video memory is better then what the Xbox 360 has.
if the xbox 360 controller is gonna be as huge as the xbox's controller then the Ps3 will own it hands down i have big hands and i had trouble using that thing they called a controller
Blazer PC versions of games 0wn console versions. Aircraftkiller Not always. I'm not a fan on consoles, personally... but I must agree with ACK here. Take a look at Halo: Combat Evolved, for the PC. It sucks ass. I mean, whomever thought that you should keep the vehicle driving in the same direction that the camera is facing should be shot on sight. It's horrible.
First off, the new xbox has 3 CPUs as far as I know. And who the fuck needs 7 controllers? Do you plan to play with 7 people splitscreen? lol.
Silent Kane First off, the new xbox has 3 CPUs as far as I know. And who the fuck needs 7 controllers? Do you plan to play with 7 people splitscreen? lol. No. I plan to play five players by myself using my left hand, right hand, left foot, right foot, and chin. And so what if the new XBOX has 3 CPUs? That doesn't mean it's going to be faster unless EVERY game makes use of multiprocessor technology. And let's face facts; even computer games are having trouble truly making use of multiprocessor technology, and computers have had multiple processors for a while now.
The Xbox 360 doesn't have 3 processors. It has a single processor, with three cores.
Quote: The Xbox 360 doesn't have 3 processors. It has a single processor, with three cores. I wouldnt want to say this but Xbox360 has technically 3 processors and it has actually 9.6Ghz. Although I wont buy Xbox360, Xbox360 will have better games, better online system and many other things that PS3 lacks.
Quote: I wouldnt want to say this but Xbox360 has technically 3 processors and actually 9.6Ghz. Lol, do you really want to try that over here too? It doesn't technically have 3 processors, it has a single processor, with 3 cores. It having 3 cores in no way tripples it's clock speed, it has 3.2GHZ, not 9.6GHZ. If that was true, then the PS3 would be about 22.4GHZ to 25.6GHZ.
Quote: If that was true, then the PS3 would be about 22.4GHZ to 25.6GHZ. And what makes you say that? PS3 has only 1 CORE, so PS3 processor powers are far from Xbox360.
Uh, no, it has 7, with the 8th one reserved for redundancy. They're "Synergistic Processing Elements", they're similar to cores in that each one can perform a sperate function/process at a time. To be more accurate, the Xbox 360 has 3 double threaded cores, meaning each one can do 2 things at once, making it 6 processess at once, versus the PS3 which can do 7 processes at once.
http://www.ps3land.com/ps3specs.php I think he's referring to the 7x SPE @ 3.2GHz. Wtf does 'SPE' stand for?
Quote: "Synergistic Processing Elements"
Chec this out and accept the truth. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html?fromint=1
Even *if* the XBOX 360 is more powerful than the PS3, it's a major milestone that they had to drop the processors that they've used for nearly every other of their projects: the Intel processors (eg, Pentiums and compatibles). They dropped those in favor of the same processors that their biggest rival, Apple uses for their biggest competing computers: Macintoshes. That's a big statement.
Quote: Make of it what you will, but be clear we know Microsoft has clearly slanted this info, and we're not endorsing it, just printing their version. There is a difference. Microsoft is on damage control. They're banking on those that lack common sense and who are extremely gullible (Lol, looks like it worked.). What you need to realize is, there is no way for Microsoft to actually know any of the comparisons and graphs in that article, they don't have the PS3 there with them, they can't run tests/comparisons with something they don't have. If Microsoft did have a (very early) PS3 there to test, there'd be bigger issues, like how they'd be sued to hell and back by Sony. Quote: accept the truth Which you still fail to do...
IGN is "offical" internet games magazine/page. It works with Gamespy, so I think that they dont publish any crap info. Quote: Which you still fail to do... It seems that it is just as hard to get you believe that Xbox360 processor is faster as trying to put cube trough circle looking hole.
emperorz0 IGN ... works with Gamespy, so I think that they dont publish any crap info. Hahaha!!!
emperorz0 IGN is "offical" internet games magazine/page. It works with Gamespy, so I think that they dont publish any crap info. Lol, they said it was 'crap info' in the beginning of that article. They just posted the e-mail they got from Microsoft, unedited, the entire first couple paragraphs of that article was a disclaimer stating that. Quote: It seems that it is just as hard to get you believe that Xbox360 processor is faster as trying to put cube trough circle looking hole. Why would I believe something that isn't true?
Quote: Lol, they said it was 'crap info' in the beginning of that article. They just posted the e-mail they got from Microsoft, unedited, the entire first couple paragraphs of that article was a disclaimer stating that. Let we wait then both consoles release and then we can compare them better than now. I still trust that Xbox360 will win.
Majiin Vegeta if the xbox 360 controller is gonna be as huge as the xbox's controller then the Ps3 will own it hands down i have big hands and i had trouble using that thing they called a controller
I could use this controller as boomerang. You could try to hunt some prey with that. And dont worry, you can also grill food inside PS3. I must say, this is a great multi-function machine.
I just want to play Oblivion. These console soap operas are so 5 years ago.
emperorz0 I could use this controller as boomerang. You could try to hunt some prey with that. And dont worry, you can also grill food inside PS3. I must say, this is a great multi-function machine. The handle is just longer, dumbass, unless you need to wrap your hands around the bottom as well as the sides of the controller you should stop your damn worrying. I believe that the PS3 is probably better, but who knows, maybe Mircrosoft can delay their release to make the Xbox 360 better.
It also has a sign labeled "Concept" beside it, so obviously it may not even be the final design. It's the same controller, just with longer grips, the parts of the controller that you're holding onto and reaching your fingers across, etc. are still the same size, as far as comfortability, ergonomics, etc. almost nothing has changed (for the worse). As far as design goes, the PS3 controller in those images looks much better then the fat obese looking Xbox 360 controller. The longer grips could be where the batteries and transmitter/receiver are stored, instead of sticking them in the middle making it fatter like the Xbox 360 controller.
emperorz0 - You're totally wrong. The PS3 is more powerful. Sir. P - You're totally right. Quote: IGN ... works with Gamespy, so I think that they dont publish any crap info. That's downright laughable. http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-12-5&res=l
There's also a rumor that the Revolution will sport four 2.5GHz PowerPC G5-class processors
Renx There's also a rumor that the Revolution will sport four 2.5GHz PowerPC G5-class processors splooge
im i like the only person that actually liked ps2/ps1 controllers?
Will I get lynched if I say I liked N64 the best of every controler with an analog stick thus far?
hunteroo2 im i like the only person that actually liked ps2/ps1 controllers? No, they are the best design I have ever seen by far, I hope they don't change them, they're really great for my hands.
uurmek Will I get lynched if I say I liked N64 the best of every controler with an analog stick thus far? Yeah, for those that grew and extra arm and hand.
Sir Phoenixx uurmek Will I get lynched if I say I liked N64 the best of every controler with an analog stick thus far? Yeah, for those that grew and extra arm and hand. Very few games used the D-pad anyway, and I liked it for the fact that it fit like a glove.
I agree with uurmek. The N64 controler was insanely leet. I really like the current PS2 controller. So sleek and sexy. And feels good. But the N64 controller was leet++;
Mindtzar I agree with uurmek. The N64 controler was insanely leet. I really like the current PS2 controller. So sleek and sexy. And feels good. But the N64 controller was leet++; Not really, I found them too clunky for my liking I mean, who the hell has three hands?
Agreed. I didn't really like the N64 controllers.
glyde51 Mindtzar I agree with uurmek. The N64 controler was insanely leet. I really like the current PS2 controller. So sleek and sexy. And feels good. But the N64 controller was leet++; Not really, I found them too clunky for my liking I mean, who the hell has three hands? You stupid faggot. It was designed so people could alternate the way the held it during different games/sections of games. And tooncy I dont suppose the PS3 or Xbox controlers are clunky. eh?
Hi, I am new to these forums. What kind of cummunity do you have running here? It looks big to me. Anyway, do any of you have pictures of the new consoles?
small as a gaming community, big enough as a forum. :tellme: sure, there are pictures of them. the companies always release pictures and news and the media gets them fast. there's even news about the XBOX on a PS3 site.. Try these searches on google: XBOX360, PS3.
PS3 > XBox 360 If full backwards compatibility were all the PS3 had going for it, that ALONE would be reason enough. That means that it will play every single PS and PS2 game ever made, which in turn means that people who buy it won't need all the systems to play all their games. The X360 might play SOME of the old XBox games, meaning that anyone who wants to keep playing their library of XBox games is going to have to hang on to that old piece of crap that calls itself a console. PS users, on the other hand, can sell off their older systems and use the cash from the sale to reduce the price of their new console. Plus, PS3 is releasing next year- that means Sony has more time to work out any kinks and bugs the thing might have. Remember kiddies, more QA testing = good. It is likely to be a higher quality product as a result.
Mindtzar And tooncy I dont suppose the PS3 or Xbox controlers are clunky. eh? The Xbox 2 controller looks pretty sleek, kinda like the Dreamcast controller. The original Xbox controller was a monster. That thing was WAYYYY too big, but the S controller is near perfect. The PS3 controller looks shitty, but that's what 3rd party devices are for.
Oh, so why's that? Because they're more powerful then your computer (Or almost anyone elses computer for about a year...) while at about 1/10th of the cost?
Sir Phoenixx Oh, so why's that? Because they're more powerful then your computer (Or almost anyone elses computer for about a year...) while at about 1/10th of the cost? So true, the PS3 is supposedly "nearly as powerful as the human brain." Nintendo Revolution: Playstation 3 and Controller: Xbox 360 and Controller: *End subliminal messanging and whoring*
That article about the PS3 and the brain and whatever, said it was about 1% as powerful as a human brain. I doubt it's anywhere near that, not even the worlds most powerful supercomputer can come anywhere close to the human brain.
Sir Phoenixx Oh, so why's that? Because they're more powerful then your computer (Or almost anyone elses computer for about a year...) while at about 1/10th of the cost? No.
Quote: Oh, so why's that? Because they're more powerful then your computer (Or almost anyone elses computer for about a year...) while at about 1/10th of the cost? Wtf, now you are totally wrong. New consoles has probably best parts that there are NOW, but when consoles are released, consoles parts are old then. PC has been always more powerful than consoles.
This computer is like 4 years older than the X-Box and over twice as powerful.
emperorz0 Quote: Oh, so why's that? Because they're more powerful then your computer (Or almost anyone elses computer for about a year...) while at about 1/10th of the cost? Wtf, now you are totally wrong. New consoles has probably best parts that there are NOW, but when consoles are released, consoles parts are old then. PC has been always more powerful than consoles. Quote: (Or almost anyone elses computer for about a year...) That's what I said. Maybe you should try reading before you reply to something? Now, unless you can show me how almost everyone here has a more powerful computer then one of the new consoles, for under about $400-$500, then what I said was correct.
Dan wrote on Thu, 26 May 2005 06:07 I'm not such a big fan of consoles myself, but thats because I dont like controllers since I'm a fan of Shoot em up games, so I find controllers hard to shoot with when I'm trying to shoot someone and I'm aiming all around the ceiling and floor etc... I love my mouse ^_^ Same for me. When I played XIII and Halo, I found it difficult to aim properly. I wonder how are they going to fix that. Maybe they Should make it so that you can switch functions of the buttons, so the X O /\ [] buttons could be used for movement, and the arrow butons would do the actions. That way, you could hold the controller in your left hand, mouse in right hand, and be able to play almost like on computer. THIS would improve experience of FPS games on PS3/XboX a LOT. I know it sounds crazy, and that it will probably never be implemented, but if it would, it would be so P.S.: You would not have less buttons(maybe only one, the right analog stick button(R3)), because on a regular controller, everithing you do with left hand could/can be done with a mouse.
If I'm not mistaken you can get a keyboard and mouse for PS2 so obviously there will be a keyboard and mouse for PS3. I think the USB slots on the PS2 is for keyboard/mouse but I'm not sure as I've never tried it.
DJM wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 19:54 If I'm not mistaken you can get a keyboard and mouse for PS2 so obviously there will be a keyboard and mouse for PC. I think you wanted to say "...you can get keyboard and mouse for PC, so obviously there will be a keyboard and mouse for PS2" Anyway, it would be good if they did it the way I sayd, so that the keyboard is not mandatory(because PS3 will/is not a computer) for playing video games.
The PS3 will have better specs, but the Xbox 360 will more than likely be more popular. I heard that it will be compatible with the newer, more popular Xbox games, like Halo 2 and Fable. Personally, i like the Xbox 360 better. Ive got one on Layaway/Preorder right now, that i still need to pay off despite my lack of money. I heard/saw on G4TV's coverage of E3, that the Xbox 360 controller will be wireless. On a side note, whats with the literal opposite coloration of the Xboxes? Xbox is black and the Xbox 360 is white... To quote many people: "FTW?"
Lijitsu wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 18:20 I heard that it will be compatible with the newer, more popular Xbox games, like Halo 2 and Fable. PS3 is compatible with PS2 and PS1 games whereas xbox 360 is only compatible with some older games. PS3 - 1 360 - 0 Lijitsu wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 18:20 i like the Xbox 360 better How come?
Its probobly because, after only having a PSX, PS2 and PC for the longest time, you get to loathe Sony when your computer is taken/off/fried. When i first played on the Xbox, i played Ghost Recon. I loved it. The graphics werent what they are now, but i absolutely loved the change of controller and everything. Since the Xbox 360 is going to have better graphics capability than then Xbox, im putting my money on the Xbox 360 for a purchase. Another possible reason, is the graphics. Like a said before, i used to only have the PSX, the PS2, and a PC. The PC had semi-decent Video Card(ATI Radeon 7000.), but overall, the graphics on all three werent to great.
This old gem again? From what I understand the X360 is going to be a more flexible system for developers which means we can expect to see more games. And that’s what it comes down to, the games. Sony has been known for their pack of lies (PS2 will have graphical capabilities of Toy Story. PS2's power blows Dreamcast out of the water. Blah, blah blah). I just can't believe some people still think the tech demos from the Sony E3 presentation were shown in real time. I don't want to be seen with the Bananarang controller for the sake of my sexual orientation.
8words: starcraft ghost is coming out for the 360.
Quote: I don't want to be seen with the Bananarang controller for the sake of my sexual orientation. It's just a concept, it isn't final. Quote: Sony has been known for their pack of lies (PS2 will have graphical capabilities of Toy Story. PS2's power blows Dreamcast out of the water. Blah, blah blah). What are you talking about? The PS2 is more powerful (in almost all areas) then the Dreamcast was. http://hardware.gamespot.com/Sony-PlayStation-2-9398-S-4-5 http://hardware.gamespot.com/Sega-Dreamcast-9395-S-4-5 Dreamcast Processor: Clock Speed - 200MHZ L1 Cache - Instruction 8KB, Data 16KB Main Memory: 16MB SDRAM Video: Clock Speed - 100MHz Memory - 8MB SDRAM Playstation 2 Processor: Clock Speed - 300MHz L1 Cache - Instruction 16KB, Data 8KB, 16K SPRAM Main Memory: 32MB RDRAM Video: Clock Speed - 150MHZ Memory - 4MB Embedded DRAM and 4MB VRAM (Specs highlighted in red is the better out of the two, or something the other doesn't have.)
The PS2's power over the Dreamcast didn't live up to the hype Sony gave it. I never said the Dreamcast was more powerful.
O.K let us change the subject. I would like to say what would I want from the PS3: 1. Ability to change function of every button to the way you want to. 2. Free on-line gaming 3. More First Person Shooters that allow mouse 4. Ability to open the DVD-rom either from the top (PS1) or from side (PS2) (I know this will not be implemented, but it would be cool) 5. Ability to browse web 6. Ability to play American as well as European DVD movies (not games) I can't think of anything else right now
Terminator 101 wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 01:06 O.K let us change the subject. I would like to say what would I want from the PS3: 1. Ability to change function of every button to the way you want to. Most modern games allow you to do this anyway right? 2. Free on-line gaming No Chance 3. More First Person Shooters that allow mouse Likely but who knows? 4. Ability to open the DVD-rom either from the top (PS1) or from side (PS2) (I know this will not be implemented, but it would be cool) Again, No chance 5. Ability to browse web Why? Every man and his dog has the internet already. 6. Ability to play American as well as European DVD movies (not games) This wouldn't really appeal to me as I don't watch many movies. I suppose it would benefit somewhat. I can't think of anything else right now
I hate playstation with a passion. IF I were going to spend money on a console system it would be xbox.
Why is that? Because you're an xbox fanboy?
Hmm... I don't know? Maybe because he got so many disc read errors with his PS2 that he had to buy another. But hey, it's just a guess.
1. Ability to change function of every button to the way you want to. Quote: Most modern games allow you to do this anyway right? Not exactly. Many games do not allow this. For example GTA does not allow this(not sure about San Andreas). On PC, at least 90% of games allow you to change controls to any way you want to 2. Free on-line gaming Quote: No Chance You sure? PS2 has free on-line gaming so why shouldn't PS3 have it free too? 3. More First Person Shooters that allow mouse Quote: Likely but who knows? I think that EVERY First Person Shooter (or third person) should allow the use of mouse. I just don't understand why GTA Vice City, Or Ghost Recon does not allow use of mouse (I have not tried these games with mouse, but they are not on list of games that allow mouse) 5. Ability to browse web Quote: Why? Every man and his dog has the internet already. I guess you are right, but it would still be cool. O.K never mind that 6. Ability to play american as well as European DVD movies (not games) Quote: This wouldn't really appeal to me as I don't watch many movies. I suppose it would benefit somewhat. Yeah it would be good. Through this point, I also wanted to say that I understand why they made it so that you can't play European PS games on American PS and vice versa, but I think that Europe and America should not use different DVDs for movies. O.K I have few new points to add: 7. More RTS games! (you can almost count number of true RTS games for PS2 on both hands) 8. More games that would have ALL of this: - AI (enemy/friendly)players/bots in multiplayer - (at least)4 player split screen - (at least 2 player)co-op with friendly bots included(this is rare right now). VERY few games right now have all of these things. 9. Games that would allow the USB head set to be used instead of some buttons (ex.: In Need for Speed if you say "go" the car will start(you get the idea)) That is it for now.
Ability to play american as well as European DVD movies (not games) I think your TV would have to support both NTSC and PAL video to be able to do that, unless of course the console can convert it for you
I think it would be better if the console could convert it. But this is not very important. One more thing, the TV does not have to support NTSC/PAL, only the DVD player. This point was put there just for fun, so I am not going to discuss it any more(there are more interesting points to discuss).