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I restarted my computer this morning and firefox looked like this: I have NO idea what the fuck happend. I'm just going to reinstall it, but I am curious as to what happend here.
lol that's y i stick to IE, never had any problems like that. Hope you fix it.
Firefox sucks.
emperorz0 Firefox sucks. You would seriously choose IE/Opera over firefox?
wats wrong with opera?
I had the same last week. Could it be that this happened after an automatic update of "themes"? I would disable that...
Quote: You would seriously choose IE/Opera over firefox? I dont have to choose, because I already use IE. I dont have any problems with IE and it works fine.
I never had that problem with the long time I've used Firefox...
I've never had any problems with FireFox at all. Works like a charm =)
Sometimes when I open Hotmail, it gets loaded like that too.
Opera never corrupts like that program does... I bet you got hit with that latest Firefuck exploit that's been going around lately. Enjoy using an open source browser! You'll only get more of this as it becomes more popular.
Aircraftkiller Opera never corrupts like that program does... I bet you got hit with that latest Firefuck exploit that's been going around lately. Enjoy using an open source browser! You'll only get more of this as it becomes more popular. Any program can have a corruption. Any program can get a exploit. This looks like a file not getting loaded properly by Windows. Besides, what is this "latest Firefuck exploit that's been going around lately"? Do you even have proof that it does this?
j4S[p ]Any program can have a corruption. Any program can get a exploit. This looks like a file not getting loaded properly by Windows. People say IE is extremely exploitable yet FireFuck has at least as many exploits. And the more people use it, the more exploits will be found since there is no point to search for exploits in programs that barely anyone uses. It's the same with windows and linux: the majority uses windows, thus it's the better target for the use of exploits while linux has probably as much possible exploits.
ive heard of probs with FF when you have a system skining program AND THEN you skin FF aswell... battle of the themes and FF loses i guess... i dont use any themes for FF after i heard that.. i just stick to what my system theme makes it look like
Opalkilla I've never skinned firefox. Yeah, it would be inhumain
emperorz0 Firefox sucks.
All browsers seem to suck, but Firefox sucks the least.
I've had Firefox for months, and I literally have had no problems what-so-ever with it or sites while using it, no glitches, crashes, or anything else. (Compared to IE crashing every couple minutes.) Firefox is just much, much better then IE. It's also better then Opera because it does (or can do) everything that it does, and it's free. (And no, a program isn't free if it has any advertisements, or a restriction of some kind in the program that has to be bought for it to be removed.)
With that logic, websites with advertisements are not free to view either. Opera is free for the end-user, the only time something isn't free for you would be when you have to pay for its services.
Aircraftkiller With that logic, websites with advertisements are not free to view either. Opera is free for the end-user, the only time something isn't free for you would be when you have to pay for its services. Well, let me prove you wrong by removing the ads from my site. Sometime later on next year.
ive used firefox since firebird 0.2, no problems ever
Aircraftkiller With that logic, websites with advertisements are not free to view either. Opera is free for the end-user, the only time something isn't free for you would be when you have to pay for its services. Quote: (And no, a program isn't free if it has any advertisements, or a restriction of some kind in the program that has to be bought for it to be removed.) Normal sites don't quite apply here, sites that offer paid versions of the same site that remove advertisements/etc. would apply here, and aren't free. Also, if a normal site has advertisements of any kind it still isn't really free. (Notice I never said "free to view" anywhere in my posts.)
I updated Java that same day.
Advertisements aren't a restriction. A lot of Opera users like the advertisements and refuse to upgrade. It all depends on whether or not you want them to appear... It does not restrict any tools in the program at all. Buying it unlocks nothing, the program is fully featured in the free version. Opera is still free, the paid version is not.
meh, I don't care what I use (more or less), as long as it's not IE. Problems avoided by not using IE: Downloads don't randomly stall (much annoyance here when it stalls after downloading for a few hours, at 99% - seemingly for the reason that you moved the mouse). PDF files don't cause the computer to temporarily stall when downloading and being opened, which IE seems to do at the same time. Downloads can be resumed within the browser.
warranto Downloads don't randomly stall (much annoyance here when it stalls after downloading for a few hours, at 99% - seemingly for the reason that you moved the mouse). I've had that problem many times. IE has a very crappy download system.
Opalkilla I'm just going to reinstall it It worked.
You all Firecrap users must have crappy computers if you have so much problems with IE. IE may not work well with crappy computers.
emperorz0 You all Firecrap users must have crappy computers if you have so much problems with IE. IE may not work well with crappy computers. No, for a fucked up mind like yours it seems normal ^_^
emperorz0 You all Firecrap users must have crappy computers if you have so much problems with IE. IE may not work well with crappy computers. Nobody said Internet Explorer doesn't work right, my Internet Explorer works fine.. However, there are hundreds of exploits out there that target primarily Internet Explorer. We are worried about all the crap (spyware, trojans, viruses) out there targeting Internet Explorer. There are other websites that target Firefox, Opera, Netscape, etc. too. If you want shitloads of spyware on your computer, please continue to use Internet Explorer.
Quote: Nobody said Internet Explorer doesn't work right, my Internet Explorer works fine.. However, there are hundreds of exploits out there that target primarily Internet Explorer. We are worried about all the crap (spyware, trojans, viruses) out there targeting Internet Explorer. There are other websites that target Firefox, Opera, Netscape, etc. too. If you want shitloads of spyware on your computer, please continue to use Internet Explorer. I know that every explorer has spyware, trojans, viruses. Some explorers has more of them and others less of them, but that is why there is FIRE WALL and ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM. If your computer internet security systems (fire wall,anti virus..) are out of date or they just suck, dont blame the explorer itself.
Don't blame the browser itself when it's not the only one prone to such vulnerabilities. Do blame the browser when it's not just the only one that's vulnerable, but it is specifically targetted for the vulnerabilities. If Firefox ever gets even close to as many vulnerabilities unique to itself as Internet Explorer does, then you can claim Firefox sucks. Until then, I'd hate to see what happens when that newest vulnerability hits your computer and your firewall and antivirus programs aren't yet patched for it. Firefox has so few instances of such that the likelihood of that occuring is negligable.
I use Firefox for the features, not the security. I have a great AV program that keeps everything, even spyware and adware, away from my PC.
emperorz0 Quote: Nobody said Internet Explorer doesn't work right, my Internet Explorer works fine.. However, there are hundreds of exploits out there that target primarily Internet Explorer. We are worried about all the crap (spyware, trojans, viruses) out there targeting Internet Explorer. There are other websites that target Firefox, Opera, Netscape, etc. too. If you want shitloads of spyware on your computer, please continue to use Internet Explorer. I know that every explorer has spyware, trojans, viruses. Some explorers has more of them and others less of them, but that is why there is FIRE WALL and ANTI VIRUS PROGRAM. If your computer internet security systems (fire wall,anti virus..) are out of date or they just suck, dont blame the explorer itself. So, why not use Firefox, which is almost exactly, if not better, than Internet Explorer instead? Why waste your precious time cleaning out viruses, trojans, and spyware when your browser could of protected you from it. Plus, what happens if your Antivirus software doesn't detect these things. Then what? Antivirus programs are meant for deleting stuff that you can't stop from entering your computer.
Quote: So, why not use Firefox, which is almost exactly, if not better, than Internet Explorer instead? Because I have always used IE and it is good explorer. Quote: Why waste your precious time cleaning out viruses, trojans, and spyware when your browser could of protected you from it. My IE works fine and I dont have any trojans, viruses... Quote: Plus, what happens if your Antivirus software doesn't detect these things. Then what? My antivirus program is very good. Same problem is with Firefox and other explorers as well. Quote: Antivirus programs are meant for deleting stuff that you can't stop from entering your computer. And that is why there is FIRE WALL. How many times I must repeat that. Do you even know, what FIRE WALL is?
Oh, so you must add extra bloat to fix some holes which should have never been there?
IE is alot more exploitable then Firefox because the ACTIVE-X shit. And people just press ''OK'' ore yes on every site. The Firefox exploit has to do with, installing a pluggin. Thats basicly what im just talking about INSTALL Pluggins and stuff only FROM THE REAL Firefox site and not some other site. Also not surfing to malicious site's and not updating your Windows and running a good firewall will save alot of trouble. Remember the programs get updated. But the people who make the most money for it the people who make the adaware spyware. Don't sit still. Oh,and i use FireFox and i dont have any problems with it. EDIT: and why do you think that MS has announced that they will release there Explorer 7 before Longhorn and there is like a Windows Update every 2 weeks? simple because they feel the hot breath of Firefox in there neck
emperorz0 My antivirus program is very good. Same problem is with Firefox and other explorers as well. Why do you keep calling them explorers? They're browsers, "Explorer" is Window's internet and file browser. ("Internet Explorer", "Windows Explorer")
Quote: Why do you keep calling them explorers? They're browsers, "Explorer" is Window's internet and file browser. ("Internet Explorer", "Windows Explorer") Sorry, I just forgot the right word. My first language is not english, so dont blame me.
That is irrelevant. English is not my first language as well and I can type perfectly. I don't want to be an ass, but I'm sick of reading this type of excuse.
emperorz0 Quote: So, why not use Firefox, which is almost exactly, if not better, than Internet Explorer instead? Because I have always used IE and it is good explorer. Quote: Why waste your precious time cleaning out viruses, trojans, and spyware when your browser could of protected you from it. My IE works fine and I dont have any trojans, viruses... Quote: Plus, what happens if your Antivirus software doesn't detect these things. Then what? My antivirus program is very good. Same problem is with Firefox and other explorers as well. Quote: Antivirus programs are meant for deleting stuff that you can't stop from entering your computer. And that is why there is FIRE WALL. How many times I must repeat that. Do you even know, what FIRE WALL is? A "FIRE WALL" does not block harmful or suspicious packets from entering your computer and leaving your computer, you fucktard. A firewall helps prevent people from accessing your computer and stealing information. Insane Technologies A firewall is a hardware device or software device which provide your computer with protection against would be hackers and viruses which attempt to directly connect to computers on the internet.
this is why i hate the fact that there ARE other browsers.. looks fine in the program IE - its normal FF - it goes to shit Opera i dont even get Text..... lol every page ive made works with IE-FF-Netscape - Opera can blow me.. i dunno wtf its problem is with sites.. (it doesnt support CSS?) all pages ive made work EXCEPT this one.. and its like i have no clue wtf ive done in this page that i havent dont in others other then its a form page.. but i have a credit app page.. and it looks normal in the above 3 browser too
another site ive noticed form problems.. http://www.cl-cj.com/content/credit.aspx in FF its all messed up.. in opera you dont even get the full page.. its just wack......... and IE is the worst browser? pfffff
GeTSm0keD another site ive noticed form problems.. http://www.cl-cj.com/content/credit.aspx in FF its all messed up.. in opera you dont even get the full page.. its just wack......... and IE is the worst browser? pfffff Well, if people learned how to CODE properly there wouldn't be any problems.
GeTSm0keD another site ive noticed form problems.. http://www.cl-cj.com/content/credit.aspx in FF its all messed up.. in opera you dont even get the full page.. its just wack......... and IE is the worst browser? pfffff What's wrong with that page in Firefox? As far as I can see, it loaded completely fine in my Firefox.
this is how i got it IE FF ya i know actully KNOWING code is prolly better.. but just lookin at the sorce for a page and thinking about typing ALL OF THAT BY HAND.. im straight with all of that lol ill wait for wysiwyg to get better.. *waits to see Golive cs2* or what ever adobe/macomedia comes out with when there fully combined
GeTSm0keD this is how i got it IE FF ya i know actully KNOWING code is prolly better.. but just lookin at the sorce for a page and thinking about typing ALL OF THAT BY HAND.. im straight with all of that lol ill wait for wysiwyg to get better.. *waits to see Golive cs2* or what ever adobe/macomedia comes out with when there fully combined OO, Photoshop for teh winz! It's not hard to make a website. I should know My website is fairly extensive, I guess... The hard part is making the design and making scripts, though I typically just find the scripts.
as far as making sites in wysiwyg editiors.. form pages are the only problem i have.. there just never right.. EXCEPT IN IE! then their normal, hah i havent had time to go back and fix up the rest of my lil BS sites.. i would like to know why Opera dont disply any of my sites lol..
GeTSm0keD as far as making sites in wysiwyg editiors.. form pages are the only problem i have.. there just never right.. EXCEPT IN IE! then their normal, hah i havent had time to go back and fix up the rest of my lil BS sites.. So... Don't use a WYSIWYG? If it doesn't work well at all cross-browser, it's not the browsers fault, it's obviously your fault. It is up to the HTML coder to make sure it works in all browsers PROPERLY, even if it might have a few cosmetic defects.
noooo its ALWAYS the browsers fault.. mmk.. and im way too cool to sit and learn web coding in any language its just how its gonna be on the real tho glyde.. whats the deal with opera not readin my CSS for fonts.. a:hover { color: #f00; text-decoration: none } .class { color: #666; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif } .pagenum { color: #666; font-size: 16pt; font-weight: 900 } a:link { color: #666 } .class1 { color: black; font-size: 10pt } thats all im using for this site and similar on my other ones is it me and my coding or is it something in opera?
GeTSm0keD noooo its ALWAYS the browsers fault.. mmk.. and im way too cool to sit and learn web coding in any language its just how its gonna be on the real tho glyde.. whats the deal with opera not readin my CSS for fonts.. a:hover { color: #f00; text-decoration: none } .class { color: #666; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif } .pagenum { color: #666; font-size: 16pt; font-weight: 900 } a:link { color: #666 } .class1 { color: black; font-size: 10pt } thats all im using for this site and similar on my other ones is it me and my coding or is it something in opera? buh wha? I don't like CSS Maybe you have your class tags wrong? I guess maybe Opera is just a fag
Opera loads that website without any problems.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/ it's the sites fault
GeTSm0keD on the real tho glyde.. whats the deal with opera not readin my CSS for fonts.. a:hover { color: #f00; text-decoration: none } .class { color: #666; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif } .pagenum { color: #666; font-size: 16pt; font-weight: 900 } a:link { color: #666 } .class1 { color: black; font-size: 10pt } The color codes are supposed to be 6 letters/numbers (RRGGBB), "#666666" not "#666".
Aircraftkiller Opera loads that website without any problems. [img/]http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-7-1116286309.jpg[/img] What version do you have? It doesn't load properly in mine. There should be much more to that page... It doesn't look like in that screenshot anyway it loaded properly...
YSLMuffins Aircraftkiller Opera loads that website without any problems. [img/]http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/uploads/post-7-1116286309.jpg[/img] What version do you have? It doesn't load properly in mine. There should be much more to that page... It doesn't look like in that screenshot anyway it loaded properly... Okay, bump? Anyways, the RenAlert site doens't load properly in the newest Opera, which I downloaded to test my own site on. Firefox it's screwed up too. Internet Exploder, perfect. You should fix that HTML on the buttons. In Firefox they have borders, and in Opera the tables are messed.
WYSIWYG > Notepad for the simple fact that, Time is Money. When you have no job and live in a basement you can spend all your awake time plodding away in Notepad lining things up and making your website. If you, maybe have a deadline, and perhaps have other things to do, a wife, kids, a boss who didn't just hire you to play around in singleplayer IRC all day. Making a website in Notepad takes some HTML knowledge. WYSIWYG however isn't a walk in the park either. Sure anyone can do it, but it won't look good. It takes just as much skill to make a professional and streamlined website in a WYSIWYG editor as it is to do it in Notepad. Wether making a table means dragging that little tool at the top to say, 4x4, or typing . If the table doesn't look good it doesn't look good, in Notepad or WYSIWYG. You have to have the knowhow and the feel for design to make sure the website is astetically pleasing and serves its purpose.
i'd have to aggree.. i cant belive that the pro's that get paid grands to put put together professinol sites for companys are using notpad lol dreamweaver with cold fusion, flash and photoshop is my pick for pro site building - learning them all is another thing lol inless you know how to code with asp/php.. and have some other style of database goin like sql
Notepad isn't hard, if you can't type fast there is a problem... Really, it's all a matter of knowing where the tables will end up, and how to use Photoshop
GeTSm0keD dreamweaver with cold fusion, flash and photoshop is my pick for pro site building - learning them all is another thing lol I'm not sure what cold fusion is, not being a web developer, but I can tell you that I dislike most sites that make even a small bit of use of Flash ... it requires the use of a plugin, and I don't particularly like installing plugins. I especially don't like company websites that are completely flash-based. It's quite unprofessional in my opinion. I guess you could say I hate Flash in general.
I like to use dreamweaver so you can see what you do but i do type the code in there. Don't use the dumb gfx interface toa dd buttons etc lol Also since i need to make websites that are good for handicapped ppl i found out that 95% off the websites really sux.
yeah most sites don't have the handicapped in mind. I use Firefox & have never had any problems. IE is slower on my comp & I have everything updated. I love the extensions that you can install into Firefox. I especially like the adblock feature. I used it to block all of those nasty Gamespy & other advertisements on PlanetCNC & other sites. & the popup blocker works pretty good as well. With the right combo of regularly updated apps you can keep your system totally safe. I haven't had a single spyware or virus on my computer since January.
I use Firefox also because of it's features. I'm addicted to tabbed browsing, Adblock, the SomethingAwful Last Read extension, minimalistic interface, and so on. Extra security is a plus, but not really necessary for me.
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=blog/8168 Quote: At c|net.com: IE vs. the world: six Web browsers compared Posted by Pasta2000 on Fri, 05/20/2005 - 13:18 :: Personal | About FF | Seen Online | Spreading Firefox At c|net.com, in the Reviews area, they have an article titled: IE vs. the world: six Web browsers compared. This article compares the following six web browsers and tells which is the best (Editors' Choice) and which are the worst. Ranked Number 1 and Editors' Choice - Firefox CNET rating of 8 Coming in tied at 2nd - Netscape 8 and Safari RSS CNET rating of 7.7 3-way tie for last place - Internet Explorer (with Windows XP SP2), Deepnet Explorer, and Opera 8 CNET rating of 7.0 Click on the browser name for the full review for each web browser. The bottom line and the most important thing to remember is that the people who work at c|net.com do reviews at a professional level and they picked Firefox as the best web browser. CNET also has a very nice expanded view comparison chart of the six web browsers in the article. I also posted this at my blog, Blogs for Firefox.
FF hits my sites the most.. 2 times more then IE