Command and Conquer: Renegade Official Forums - RDF feed
C&C: Renegade --> Dying since 2003™, resurrected in 2024!
If you heard of this... What do you yankees think about it?
Quote: What do you yankees think about it? Yeah I heard about it. North Korea said that it can still discuss with other countryes about peace. But North Korea has bad friedlyship with USA.
I think they are probably trying to get them. I'd agree with suspicions over N. Korea. Iran on the other hand, I don't believe are after nukes.
hmm.. with those nukes, perhaps he won't be so "ronery".
Isn't it more of a level playing field now? Why don't you try disarming first before telling others to?
If we disarm first then others dont have to. IF they just nuke us rather than getting rid of them, they can keep them! Boom, new world power. and no it isnt a level playing field because we wont ever use them, they're just there as a symbol of power, nothing more. We cant say the same for them, they could use them at any time.
My beliefe is apparently fact now. They do indeed have nukes. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050210/ap_on_re_as/nkorea_nuclear_21 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20050211/wl_nm/korea_north_talks_dc
DaveGMM Isn't it more of a level playing field now? How is it "more of a level playing field now", when we have almost 10,000 nuclear weapons, and they barely have a couple? DaveGMM Why don't you try disarming first before telling others to? Lol... That's like going up to a police officer/soldier and telling him he should throw his gun away if he wants the criminal/enemy soldier to do the same.
DaveGMM Why don't you try disarming first before telling others to? In never-never land this would work perfect. But im afraid we (well mabey not you) but most of us live in reality. That place were people are out to hurt us and we must defend ourselves. All the more reason that we must go into North Korea as soon as we have enough forces free from Afganistan and Iraq.
And get ourselves nuked? Hahaha... no offense but that would be a very large risk that we probably will not take.
not to mention China wont put up with that. And a war with them would cause another world war.
China is going to be crucial in this situation.
We might try to push Iran around...but I doubt we would want to mess with North Korea, especially since they have nukes and would likely use them.
=[DT =gbull=[L]=]and no it isnt a level playing field because we wont ever use them, they're just there as a symbol of power, nothing more. We cant say the same for them, they could use them at any time. Believe it or not... which country was the only country to ever use nuclear weapons on another nation? Am I supposed to not trust the North Koreans because they have a chance to use nuclear weapons, or not trust the Americans because they have and most likely will again use nuclear weapons? Is easy to only look at your side of the equation... If Japan had won World War II you guys would've been viewed as monsters.
The nuclear weapons used there probably saved lives believe it or not, because if we would have invaded Japan, it would have been D-Day every day. Also, why wouldnt you trust the US with weapons? If we wanted to use them by now, we would have
So basicly what you are saying, is you want to wait around until they get 50 or 60 nukes and then say its time to go instead of when they are at the begining of there program. Thats soooo smart.
cowmisfit DaveGMM Why don't you try disarming first before telling others to? In never-never land this would work perfect. But im afraid we (well mabey not you) but most of us live in reality. That place were people are out to hurt us and we must defend ourselves. All the more reason that we must go into North Korea as soon as we have enough forces free from Afganistan and Iraq. If a Korean said what you just said, you'd call it terrorism.
splnwezel Believe it or not... which country was the only country to ever use nuclear weapons on another nation? Am I supposed to not trust the North Koreans because they have a chance to use nuclear weapons, or not trust the Americans because they have and most likely will again use nuclear weapons? Is easy to only look at your side of the equation... If Japan had won World War II you guys would've been viewed as monsters. Have you ever studied or even payed attention to anything about World War II? Japan was not going to give up until they were all dead, or we knocked some sense into their heads. On the island of Saipan the WOMEN AND CHILDREN committed suicide rather than be under American control. Not to mention that the Japanese government trained women and children to fight against the Americans. They taught them how to use sharp sticks and such. Think of it this way, it was either drop the a-bomb or practically wipe out the Japanese population and lose hundreds of thousands of more men. Hmm...hard decision, eh? Not to mention that Japan was just about finished producing some more weapons for war like some newly designed planes, and they were sending submarines to the states when we dropped the a-bomb. Granted we didn't know about this at the time, but think of the outcome if we didn't drop the a-bomb and make them surrender.
j_ball430 Japan was not going to give up until they were all dead, or we knocked some sense into their heads. On the island of Saipan the WOMEN AND CHILDREN committed suicide rather than be under American control. And if an American soldier did such, what would that be in your eyes? Bravery? Defiance? j_ball430 Not to mention that the Japanese government trained women and children to fight against the Americans. They taught them how to use sharp sticks and such. frightening thought, sharp sticks vs a nuke j_ball430 Not to mention that Japan was just about finished producing some more weapons for war like some newly designed planes, and some sharp sticks, no doubt.
If Americans committed suicide, I'd pity them for such stupidity. The end result of killing yourself is much worse than being under another nation's control. The fact is, they were training the women and children to fight Americans. Can't think of anything else to nitpick, so you're dwelling on your last point still?
j_ball430 If Americans committed suicide, I'd pity them for such stupidity. The end result of killing yourself is much worse than being under another nation's control. And what if they were going to get tortured?
Coming from a relgious standpoint, it's still not as bad as committing suicide. I can see it *being* more justified, but I still think it'd be a stupid idea. Plus, it's not like the Americans would have tortured them anyways. At least, for the most part. I can't say for sure because I havn't come across any information on torturing in WW2, but, then again, I havn't tried either.
j_ball430 Plus, it's not like the Americans would have tortured them anyways. I daresay if your country had just been nuked, you wouldn't have such a clear certainty of how you'd be treated had you been taken prisoner of war.
I'm talking BEFORE we dropped the bomb. It's kind of hard to take POWs when you're no longer fighting a war.
j_ball430 Have you ever studied or even payed attention to anything about World War II? Japan was not going to give up until they were all dead, or we knocked some sense into their heads. On the island of Saipan the WOMEN AND CHILDREN committed suicide rather than be under American control. Not to mention that the Japanese government trained women and children to fight against the Americans. They taught them how to use sharp sticks and such. I think the best way to describe the situation is in fact to play through a game of Battlefield Veitnam and listen to the propaganda machine. In Japan, just about everything was controlled by the military up and including through the Pacific Campaign. Quote: During the 1930s, the military established almost complete control over the government. Many political enemies were assassinated, and communists persecuted. Indoctrination and censorship in education and media were further intensified. Navy and army officers soon occupied most of the important offices, including the one of the prime minister. I would highly doubt that even a large minority would know that "Americans are generally nice people and won't torture you". It's similar to the situation we have in Communist China now. The people "behind the wall" are told by their government that China donates millions of dollars worth of foreign aid to America under some pretense to put the Chinese government on a high pedistal that no one can dethrone because... well, they're communists, aren't they?
Eh that's true. I didn't really consider propaganda from the government as a factor.
j_ball430 Have you ever studied or even payed attention to anything about World War II? Ha, I think I could give you a run for your money... If what you think is true, then shouldn't the question be: Why not just nuke Iraq? Forget about them not surrendering. Is easier to nuke the place and forget about resistance. Heck, nuke Afghanistan so we can bring our troops back... Blind patriotism... had the Japanese launched nukes onto American soil via submarines (if they had the technology), could you feel the same way?
splnwezel If what you think is true, then shouldn't the question be: Why not just nuke Iraq? Forget about them not surrendering. Is easier to nuke the place and forget about resistance. Heck, nuke Afghanistan so we can bring our troops back... That is a completely different situation here. Why would we want to nuke those who we're liberating? We weren't liberating Japan. It's a completely different situation if they would have attacked us. No, not because I'm American, but rather because of the way that Americans operate. Our government wouldn't train the women and children to attack the enemy or feel that we're dishonoring the president by surrendering. Let's say, hypothetically, that America was in the same mindset as Japan was. Of course, I wouldn't like the idea of an atom bomb being dropped on us, but from a military standpoint, it was the smartest thing they could do. The point of a war is not to die for your country, but make the enemy die for his (Yeah, I got it off of a quote).
If N. Korea use nukes on the US, then China is gonna screw them over for attacking one of their major trading partners. I hope this incident causes a change in leadership.
i think that to be true as well IRON, they only have false threats. Its best to just ignore them at this point I think, because them attacking us would be their own downfall.
North Korea shouldn't have nukes (Kim Jong Il says, "thanks, Mr. Clinton!") because he would actually use them. The U.S. should have nukes because it is the #1 target on any nation's "Who to nuke first" list; it has always been the policy of the United States since the beginning of the Cold War that nuclear weapons are to be used for defense in extreme circumstances. To think we'd be the first ones to push the launch button simply to start a war is just ludicrous.
Did Clinton give North Korea nuclear devices? Please, do tell.
Yes, but why exactly is the US #1 on every country's "To Nuke List"?
splnwezel Yes, but why exactly is the US #1 on every country's "To Nuke List"? Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. And the fact that 3/4's of them are ungreatful bastards.
Keep telling yourself that, maybe it'll come true some day. Not today though.
simple jealousy and/or difference in opinions are the reason why we are on the #1 to nuke list.
It's not jealousy in the slightest. Those terrorists don't like the way you run a population-- not because some of those within the population have a big screen TV.
gbull and/or difference in opinions
cowmisfit splnwezel Yes, but why exactly is the US #1 on every country's "To Nuke List"? Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. wow...
Quote: Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. And the fact that 3/4's of them are ungreatful bastards. LOL Yes you are #1 on the to nuke list because of something as trivial as that. What a joke. I'm gonna tell my friends that one. Quote: CENSUS OF THE WORLD Please check one: ARE YOU AN UNGRATEFUL BASTARD? [ ] No, I love America [ ] Yes. That is all.
I hate you dumb fucks that take shit and turn it into something its not. (will explain in second when i get out of the shower.)
cowmisfit Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. And the fact that 3/4's of them are ungreatful bastards. Looks pretty straight forward to me. Maybe you meant something you didn't say-- again.
Infering from iron-fart's post he said that Either you are not an ungreatful bastard and love america and if you don't no matter what your a ungreatful bastard. Which is something i didn't say. I said theres quite a few countries who are currently anti-america that should be anything but. Take France for example, we saved them in WWI and WWII from being extermenated by Hitler, now look how they treat us only 50 some odd years after the fact. (Don't you even bring up the revolution, we've backed them up so many times and repaied for that its not even funny and has no relevince since it was over 100 years ago.)
France isn't anti-American. They are against your war. In case you've forgotten, and this is at least the 2nd time I've reminded you, but France is an ally. You basing your accusation on the assumption that French people in France run around burning American flags. Canada doesn't care much for your war either, but does that mean Canada is anti-American? Hardly. These countries hold stinct differences in opinion and will go to point out the fallacy in your methodologies. If you think that means they are anti-American, well, there is nothing that anyone can do for you. Oh, but don't get me wrong. There are definately anti-American people in those countries. There are in EVERY country-- even America. And no, they're not called democrats or liberals. They are those who have a disdain for America has a whole.
and i am against those in america too. I think anyone who is living in America and hates it so bad can get the fuck out. I'd pay for them to leave if they promised to move to iraq and never come back.
Javacx You basing your accusation on the assumption that French people in France run around burning American flags. They have
cowmisfit I said theres quite a few countries who are currently anti-america that should be anything but. Take France for example, we saved them in WWI and WWII from being extermenated by Hitler, now look how they treat us only 50 some odd years after the fact. wow, you stupid, stupid fuck
Javaxcx I should rephrase... ALL French people. In all of the TV News, News Articals and things on the net i've read / heard, i've never heard one good comment come out of someone from france about the US.
Have you ever thought that maybe the media likes to report negative things rather than the good?
cowmisfit In all of the TV News, News Articals and things on the net i've read / heard, i've never heard one good comment come out of someone from france about the US. If you were to watch French TV and news, you'd see the same thing from the opposite direction.
cowmisfit Javaxcx I should rephrase... ALL French people. In all of the TV News, News Articals and things on the net i've read / heard, i've never heard one good comment come out of someone from france about the US. Is this like your wonderful take on the BBC, you know, the one where you act extremely knowledgeable but can't present the tiniest shred of evidence to back it up?
I'd like to see you prove the "fact" that 3/4ths of "them" country to be ungrateful bastards. Quote: I said theres quite a few countries who are currently anti-america that should be anything but. Take France for example, we saved them in WWI and WWII from being extermenated by Hitler, now look how they treat us only 50 some odd years after the fact. (Don't you even bring up the revolution, we've backed them up so many times and repaied for that its not even funny and has no relevince since it was over 100 years ago.) LOL If I had a peso for every time I heard this old argument, I'd have anough to buy 6800's for me and my family. France is not anti american. They are still your allies. The only reason you hate them is because they didn't support your war, and your government got sore over that.
IRON-FART I'd like to see you prove the "fact" that 3/4ths of "them" country to be ungrateful bastards. Quote: I said theres quite a few countries who are currently anti-america that should be anything but. Take France for example, we saved them in WWI and WWII from being extermenated by Hitler, now look how they treat us only 50 some odd years after the fact. (Don't you even bring up the revolution, we've backed them up so many times and repaied for that its not even funny and has no relevince since it was over 100 years ago.) LOL If I had a peso for every time I heard this old argument, I'd have anough to buy 6800's for me and my family. France is not anti american. They are still your allies. The only reason you hate them is because they didn't support your war, and your government got sore over that. I haven't liked France for a while, it started long before that.
Love/hate relationships do exist, you know.
NodBugger I haven't liked France for a while, it started long before that.
Just curious... When/why did that start?
Doesn't matter. Shameless bigotry against the French nation is perfectly acceptable, but legitimate criticism of anything American is reviled.
You can't dispute that America is too cool. I mean this country is P.I.M.P.
Spoony Doesn't matter. Shameless bigotry against the French nation is perfectly acceptable, but legitimate criticism of anything American is reviled. I can dislike any country I want. It doesn't make me a bigot. If you consider disliking a country biggotry, then the whole world was full of bigots from 1945-1989.
what are you talking about J_ball, like 3/4 of the world are bigots now! at least I heard that was the estimated ratio of people that hate the U.S. According to Spoony's false definition anyway. according to this definition, we are all bigots, every one of us. Dictionary.com One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
I love humans. Aren't they cool? Guess I should be dragged through the streets for being a biggoted hateful creature. I bet PETA would love you.
=[DT =gbull=[L]=]what are you talking about J_ball, like 3/4 of the world are bigots now! at least I heard that was the estimated ratio of people that hate the U.S. According to Spoony's false definition anyway. False? read any single post by Cowmisfit and tell me he isn't bigoted.
As far as France and Iraq go lets take a good look at why the French where antiwar. Lets see here companys in france makeing money from sadam runing things I wont go into details on this point unless I need to. Hum no other good reasons here they cant used the excuse of giveing diplomacy time to work 12 years is more than enough time for that. Cant use the excuse that he was a Great and good leader that was misunderstood He used chemical weapons on his own people for god sakes. In the end other than either money or the fact that most of Eroupe are becomeing peacemongers are the big top why dont we use force to solve the problem reasons. Dont get me wrong Im all for peace but sometimes you have to use force to make a point. And for those that dont know a peacemonger is someone that wants what they call peace at all cost includeing the cost of people being tortured raped and killed for no good reason. What they fail to understand is as long as stuf like that happens there can never realy be peace.
It all comes down to economics... and that is a war in itself. I'm sure I could hijack this topic, but I'll simply state that the war on Iraq was more about oil than it was WMDs... Other nations don't like the US meddling in their foreign affairs because it interferes with their trading with other nations. Especially when the commodity is oil.
splnwezel Other nations don't like the US meddling in their foreign affairs because it interferes with their trading with other nations. Especially when the commodity is oil. Ya, the UN hates us huh Spoony False? read any single post by Cowmisfit and tell me he isn't bigoted. He may be a bigot, but so are you, and so am I for that matter. We all are: dictionary.com One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Ryan3k Just curious... When/why did that start? Well I wasn't born yet, but when I started learning things and I found out that they withdrew from the military portion of NATO.
knight1b As far as France and Iraq go lets take a good look at why the French where antiwar. Lets see here companys in france makeing money from sadam runing things I wont go into details on this point unless I need to. Please, go into detail. I'd like to see some evidence of this. The US will make money once "sadam" isn't in charge, so by your own arguments, that is the sole reason for everything.
splnwezel It all comes down to economics... and that is a war in itself. I'm sure I could hijack this topic, but I'll simply state that the war on Iraq was more about oil than it was WMDs... Other nations don't like the US meddling in their foreign affairs because it interferes with their trading with other nations. Especially when the commodity is oil. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE FUCKING OIL. K? K.
It is ignorance to say that oil was not a factor in the war plan. I guess America just DONATED 200 billion dollars of money to Iraq and expected nothing in return? Now, that isn't to say that the main reason for the war was oil, because it wasn't. It was to disarm Saddam. That is all the president spoke about in his justification for the war. Now, TODAY, that is a different story, but in March of '03, it is as I stated.
Spoony =[DT =gbull=[L]=]what are you talking about J_ball, like 3/4 of the world are bigots now! at least I heard that was the estimated ratio of people that hate the U.S. According to Spoony's false definition anyway. False? read any single post by Cowmisfit and tell me he isn't bigoted.
OK, Aircraftkiller, explain logically why I am supposedly a bigot.
Quote: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. Gbull, not everyone falls under that.
Spoony trying to say that America should disarm before anyone else would be an act of suicide. Also, we have a system of checks an balances that your stupid ass doesn't understand that keeps us from firing a nuke for no reason. If the wacko dictator in N. Korea wants to launch a nuke no one will question his reasoning they will just do it. As far as you even thinking that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified you are just plain wrong. You are like that professor that is trying to call the people that died in the 9/11 attacks Nazis.
Javaxcx It is ignorance to say that oil was not a factor in the war plan. Yes, this war and every other war that has ever accured economics are a part of the war plan and reason going to war. You just make a big deal out of this one because your an idiot, and thats okay, just stop sharing with us.
Cow, you aren't in a position to call people idiots. Certainly not Java. But as we've seen before, making personal insults to people is a trademark of yours. Quote: Spoony trying to say that America should disarm before anyone else would be an act of suicide. America would be vulnerable if they can't compete on the same level as other countries if they disarmed with no guarantee they countries like N. Korea will too. Although I think that many countries should disarm to some extent.
Its simple really... MAKE nukes with long rang capabilities and the USA won't mess with you. So ya, Its for defense purposes
nukes don't scare me, it is the people in control of them.
a crazy man with a gun is worse than a crazy man. same applies to countries, take thier toys away and they won't be able to play.
cowmisfit Yes, this war and every other war that has ever accured economics are a part of the war plan and reason going to war. You just make a big deal out of this one because your an idiot, and thats okay, just stop sharing with us. There is a difference between making a big deal out of something and stating facts. Facts that YOU apparently agree with. I do not believe, nor had ever believed the war for primarily for oil. I believe oil was calculated into the war plan (just like you) as a way to pay for it, and possibly in the future make a profit, but I do not peg your President as that kind of greedy fool. Please stop making typical assumptions when you have no frame of reference OR evidence to back up your claims.
DarkDemin Spoony trying to say that America should disarm before anyone else would be an act of suicide. When did I say America should do that? Oh wait... I didn't. DarkDemin As far as you even thinking that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified you are just plain wrong. Again, another quote which has not even the slightest relation to anything I've said. All in all, an excellent job.
Quote: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. IRON-FART Gbull, not everyone falls under that. to some degree, we all are. Whos to say what "Strongly" is? Even you, are partial more towards the left than to the right, and I respect that, but at the same time I am intolerable of that. Does that make sense?
Not one bit gbull but then again what dose make sense?
Then could someone please explain to me the primary reason for going to war with Iraq? Was it because of the potential of WMDs existing in an anti-American country? No, I think there were more probable targets (ie: North Korea). Was it because their leader treated the people like garbage? Again, other countries more targetable. For terrorists? Why not attack Saudi Arabia? How about because their leader tried to kill daddy? LOL... quite possibly. But in my eyes, the Americans would've never tackled this project unless there was something to gain financially - without the support of the UN (duh, the Russians and French are loving this trade relationship with Iraq) and whilst still in the middle of the Afghanistan campaign. But back to the topic at hand, I do believe that the North Koreans pose more of a threat to their Asian neighbours, and that a full scale assault on the US is highly improbable. And forget about America disarming. They would never give up that tactical edge under their own power. DarkDemin As far as you even thinking that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified you are just plain wrong. You are like that professor that is trying to call the people that died in the 9/11 attacks Nazis. I'm sorry... I am not sure I understand... perhaps you think murdering civilians is right? I'm sure you'd also be making the same choice to Agent Orange all of Vietnam as your American military did. Please explain so that I can see if you have a point to any of this.
1. WMD concerns, which were proven valid with finding nerve gas in artillery shells. I've also heard reports that Iraqi soldiers were dumping chemical weapons into the Euphrates river before US forces arrived. 2. Terrorism links. Remember that Al Qaeda is not the end all of terrorism. There are more terrorist organizations than that one. 3. UN security resolution violations, 12 in all. 4. Humanitarian concerns. You honestly find something wrong with getting something in return for the side-effect of liberating a country from a dictator? If we want oil from there afterward, I see no reason why it would be a problem. War is always fought for resources, land, politics, or a combination of those reasons. As for the "tried to kill daddy" remark... Don't be a holier-than-thou asshole please. Attempting assassination of a US president, sitting or former, is something we as a nation are not very fond of. Assassination of leaders is also considered an act of war, is it not? Why is it invalid, or even able to be mocked?
1. WMD concerns, which were proven valid with finding nerve gas in artillery shells. I've also heard reports that Iraqi soldiers were dumping chemical weapons into the Euphrates river before US forces arrived. GOM GOM GOM! Add Eco terrorism to that list ;P. How can you liberals oppose the war NOW!? IRAQ THREATENED THE ECO SYSTEM OF THE REGAL... EUPHRATES WATER MITE! Also, what side effect? The gas is STILL as expensive as before the war. We didn't get any extra oil out of this. We just got another thing to brag about.
AirCraftKiller 1. WMD concerns, which were proven valid with finding nerve gas in artillery shells. I've also heard reports that Iraqi soldiers were dumping chemical weapons into the Euphrates river before US forces arrived. 2. Terrorism links. Remember that Al Qaeda is not the end all of terrorism. There are more terrorist organizations than that one. 3. UN security resolution violations, 12 in all. 4. Humanitarian concerns. You honestly find something wrong with getting something in return for the side-effect of liberating a country from a dictator? If we want oil from there afterward, I see no reason why it would be a problem. War is always fought for resources, land, politics, or a combination of those reasons. As for the "tried to kill daddy" remark... Don't be a holier-than-thou asshole please. Attempting assassination of a US president, sitting or former, is something we as a nation are very fond of. Assassination of leaders is also considered an act of war, is it not? Why is it invalid, or even able to be mocked? ^^^
I agree with ACK. Wow, its great forgetting about your topic then coming back couple days later to then have to read four pages of posts!
splnwezel I'm sorry... I am not sure I understand... perhaps you think murdering civilians is right? I'm sure you'd also be making the same choice to Agent Orange all of Vietnam as your American military did. Please explain so that I can see if you have a point to any of this. Sure, just ignore everything I said. As long as you're happy because as we all know, ignorance is bliss.
Quote: to some degree, we all are. Whos to say what "Strongly" is? Even you, are partial more towards the left than to the right, and I respect that, but at the same time I am intolerable of that. Does that make sense? I'm not strongly partial to anything...At least not anything that relates to this topic. But I am tolerant of others.
didnt say you were strongly partial, and I also didnt say you werent intolerant of others. But even if you were to reply to someones post disagreeing with it, there is a certain level of intolerance albeit very small. The point I am trying to make is that there isnt a clear definition for what Strongly is, nor is there one for intolerance as both are expressed differently by different people, and something that is Strong for some people, may be a weak statement to others. Im not trying to prove anyone wrong or accuse anyone of anything, Im just making a statement.
Good points ACK... but I still think there are more dangerous countries posing a threat to the US right now than Iraq... terrorists included, because they come from countries we consider ourselves allies with, and I hardly doubt that terrorist activity has decreased in Iraq since US occupation.
yes but with their support and the anti-american sentiment going around, it would be difficult to bring support with us to stop such countries as Saudi Arabia. Because if we waged war through Mecca, ALL of the Islamic Nations would be uber pissed, and We cannot fight them all at once. Best to spread freedom in baby steps.
Operation Iraqi Liberation :rolleyes:
I got to get into this. First off, with the China thing, they will not get involved. their economy relies to much on the USA to do much of anything but shove a few rifles through their backdoor to north korea. Second, we have nothing to worry about yet, the korean delivery system sucks, when the rockets to not blow up on the launching pad, they cannot get very far, they are not close to even reaching our coast, as of yet. then, if we disarm, we still have more working proven missles then anyone else, it's called submarines. We can put a missle in the air with less then 5 minutes travel time into korea. that is an advantage that one does not get up. Depending on where the submarine is. When we detect them launching missles, then you can bet that north korea has around 10-12 minutes to say good bye to their loved ones, if they actually launched a missle, then we would take care of them once and for all and be damned with the results. We are the bully of the world at this moment in time, and are picking fights with everyone. north korea is going to find out the hard way that you do not f$$k with the USofA
i wouldnt say bully....but you got a point with the subs
We just need to drop pamphlets. Get the fuck out of N. Korea. Go anywhere but here. And then completely sink that entire isthmus and make S. Korea an island. I'm talking nothing left, blow the fuck out of every acre and be done with all this dicking around. Saves time and money and gets results.
Amen, Doitle!