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description: C&C: Renegade --> Dying since 2003™, resurrected in 2024!
items: CW revival
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CW revival
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description: In the last few months, the clanwars.cc league has been something close to dead. Only one or two clans would really play competitively each month. However, at the start of December, about four or five top clans who hadn't been playing for a while, all agreed to come back, play competitively and inject a bit of life into the league. I'm basically saying, if there was a good time to take a clan onto a competitive level, that time is now.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-04T13:32:09-00:00

CW revival
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description: Maybe not many people are joining it and useing that service is becuase it COSTS money! I would never sign up for that! $120 AMERICAN for a renegade serivce that a monkey and a blow up doll could do? No thanks.
creator: SuperMidget
date: 2004-12-06T15:09:10-00:00

CW revival
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description: Quote: Maybe not many people are joining it and useing that service is becuase it COSTS money! I would never sign up for that! $120 AMERICAN for a renegade serivce that a monkey and a blow up doll could do? No thanks. What the hell are you talking about? Spoony is saying that a lot more clans are playing for December, so now would be the best time for clans to start playing, cause there is a lot of competition. It doesn't cost 120 American to clanwar you idiot, just log on to Renegade, go in to chat, say 'wanna clanwar' and boom, your in a clanwar, free of charge!!!
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-06T18:36:35-00:00

CW revival
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description: And he was just saying that it costs money to join it and maybe that's why it's always slow.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-06T18:42:13-00:00

CW revival
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description: Renegade is an increasingly old game. I think there are enough teams, just not as many teams in the size and caliber it used to be because a lot of the veteren players who had the most skill have since quit renegade.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-06T20:31:35-00:00

CW revival
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description: j_ball430 And he was just saying that it costs money to join it and maybe that's why it's always slow. :rolleyes: gotwhisky is a spaz
creator: SuperMidget
date: 2004-12-07T13:21:29-00:00

CW revival
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description: j_ball430 And he was just saying that it costs money to join it and maybe that's why it's always slow. Are you saying Clanwars costs money? Clanwars = Free.... http://www.clanwars.cc
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-12-07T15:01:59-00:00

CW revival
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description: it says $99 start up fee + $20 a year or month, i forget
creator: SuperMidget
date: 2004-12-07T15:46:13-00:00

CW revival
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description: i'm hardly a spaz, its just sometimes people get on my nerves because of their stupidity!!! Now if you can show me anywhere on clanwars.cc where it talks about money, then i'll take back anything i've said. Moral of this thread - If your ever gonna clan, do it now. PS---> IT'S FREE
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-07T16:01:23-00:00

CW revival
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description: oh my bad, thats for starting your own clan ladder! lol don't have to go up in a rage though.. How does one sign up?
creator: SuperMidget
date: 2004-12-07T17:05:57-00:00

CW revival
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description: you don't have to sign up or anything, if you've been playing on WOL with your clan, your clan should already be on the list. If your clan isn't on the list, then you'll have to keep playing and playing and eventually your clan will show up.
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-07T17:40:47-00:00

CW revival
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description: SuperMidget oh my bad, thats for starting your own clan ladder! lol don't have to go up in a rage though.. How does one sign up? Now you made me look like an idiot...thanks.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-07T19:07:00-00:00

CW revival
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description: cowmisfit because a lot of the veteren players who had the most skill have since quit renegade. If a list was made of the best ten players of all time, I'd say about seven of them still play
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-08T00:33:07-00:00

CW revival
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description: SuperMidget it says $99 start up fee + $20 a year or month, i forget Where did you get that idea from? I'm curious to know.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-08T00:34:12-00:00

CW revival
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description: Hello... 1 . aeonelite ... 12889 2 . apocd2 ... 8329 3 . drkxfactr ... 6020 4 . clearsh0t ... 5183 5 . gtstefan ... 4758 6 . purepanic ... 4492 7 . blkst0rm ... 4351 8 . gtmarty ... 4348 9 . c0dynamic ... 3928 10 . bigpoolog ... 3762
creator: c0dynamic
date: 2004-12-08T06:19:50-00:00

CW revival
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description: c0dynamic Hello... 1 . aeonelite ... 12889 2 . apocd2 ... 8329 3 . drkxfactr ... 6020 4 . clearsh0t ... 5183 5 . gtstefan ... 4758 6 . purepanic ... 4492 7 . blkst0rm ... 4351 8 . gtmarty ... 4348 9 . c0dynamic ... 3928 10 . bigpoolog ... 3762 Aeonelite: wtf are you smoking Apoc: back in the day, definitely Drk: sure Clear: sure Stefan: wtf are you smoking Panic: wtf are you smoking St0rm: hmmm.... GTmarty: wtf are you smoking You: I've never seen you play so no comment Uded: sure
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-08T07:26:52-00:00

CW revival
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description: c0dynamic Hello... 1 . aeonelite ... 12889 2 . apocd2 ... 8329 3 . drkxfactr ... 6020 << ROFL NO 4 . clearsh0t ... 5183 5 . gtstefan ... 4758 6 . purepanic ... 4492 7 . blkst0rm ... 4351 < NO 8 . gtmarty ... 4348 9 . c0dynamic ... 3928 10 . bigpoolog ... 3762 < NO The other ones i havn't played with enough to say, but those 3 are not the best of all time.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-08T11:57:32-00:00

CW revival
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description: I can guarantee that you have never played BiGPooLoG (aka Uded6) when he's playing for real. Maybe mucking around in a public but not when he actually tries. I have played against him when he plays for real, and at times, it's fucking scary. I can think of only one person I would rate as actually better than him (mysteriously absent from that list)
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-08T18:33:00-00:00

CW revival
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description: :rolleyes: When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-08T20:46:48-00:00

CW revival
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description: Quote: When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that. wtf?
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-08T20:56:52-00:00

CW revival
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description: cowmisfit When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that. I hardly think being good at one aspect of renegade qualifies a player to be one of the "best ever".
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-08T22:01:04-00:00

CW revival
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description: cowmisfit :rolleyes: When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that. Maybe the players you think are good only play in a little snipe server with you and you think you own them so you>everyone?
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-08T22:38:25-00:00

CW revival
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description: BiGPooLoG. cowmisfit :rolleyes: When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that. Maybe the players you think are good only play in a little snipe server with you and you think you own them so you>everyone? :rolleyes: Maybey not?? A) I don't play renegade anymore, too easy B) I don't play in a "little" snipe server, i played in Crimson79 , [EoE]. FNfall, [FoD] (when it was around) , dont' even try to pull that "OMG LIK YOU PLAY WITH THE NUBS" bullshit. CW has lots of good players, i know that, im not putting down CW, but the thing is half of them i've played with are just plain assholes, they have shit for attutide and CW isn't a community worth being apart of with all of them in it.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-08T22:51:35-00:00

CW revival
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description: gotwhiskey i'm hardly a spaz, its just sometimes people get on my nerves because of their stupidity!!! Now if you can show me anywhere on clanwars.cc where it talks about money, then i'll take back anything i've said. Moral of this thread - If your ever gonna clan, do it now. PS---> IT'S FREE You got on my nerves with your stupidity when you litteraly helped The Trielite look bad. As if it's not bad enough that we're hardly known, you go into our recruiting thread and start shooting accusations (that were not true) about our clan when, if you had done your research, may have left us some recruiting luck. You said we didn't have members, except for me. Here's your stupidity (can you count?) [list]Sypn0s1s Jamesmvb6 Xosmosis Monstrboy Gunrboy57 Zeph66 Glyde51 Joseley2 XBadX1234 (DarkSonjc) Hornet750[/list:u] Let's count... 1... 2... 3.. 4... 5... 6... 7... 8... 9... 10! I guess now I'm teh spaz...
creator: glyde51
date: 2004-12-08T23:07:42-00:00

CW revival
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description: cowmisfit BiGPooLoG. cowmisfit :rolleyes: When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that. Maybe the players you think are good only play in a little snipe server with you and you think you own them so you>everyone? :rolleyes: Maybey not?? A) I don't play renegade anymore, too easy B) I don't play in a "little" snipe server, i played in Crimson79 , [EoE]. FNfall, [FoD] (when it was around) , dont' even try to pull that "OMG LIK YOU PLAY WITH THE NUBS" bullshit. CW has lots of good players, i know that, im not putting down CW, but the thing is half of them i've played with are just plain assholes, they have shit for attutide and CW isn't a community worth being apart of with all of them in it. If it was so easy why didn't you make a clan and play clanwars? :rolleyes:
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T00:28:00-00:00

CW revival
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description: BiGPooLoG. cowmisfit BiGPooLoG. cowmisfit :rolleyes: When i played renegade, i played perhaps 10 - 15 snipers in the almost 3 years or w/e since its release that were "better" than me, none of them are on that. Maybe the players you think are good only play in a little snipe server with you and you think you own them so you>everyone? :rolleyes: Maybey not?? A) I don't play renegade anymore, too easy B) I don't play in a "little" snipe server, i played in Crimson79 , [EoE]. FNfall, [FoD] (when it was around) , dont' even try to pull that "OMG LIK YOU PLAY WITH THE NUBS" bullshit. CW has lots of good players, i know that, im not putting down CW, but the thing is half of them i've played with are just plain assholes, they have shit for attutide and CW isn't a community worth being apart of with all of them in it. If it was so easy why didn't you make a clan and play clanwars? :rolleyes: If you were not a moron you'd know who i am and that my clans have played on CW, [FoD] Forces of Diversion, [EoE] End of Evolution the main two. Its so easy because everyone on there sucks, when i can go in any server on the game and get best k/d and most kills every game and get top 5 just sniping in AOW (Deadeye Blackhand) Its fucking sad, or when i go in a server and can get 20 MVP's in a row. It gets old after a while, i played from the release, the fun ran out for me, too many nubs who accuse of cheating , it makes it no fun.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-09T00:36:24-00:00

CW revival
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description: I could get a 5.0 kd and 20 mvps in a server without trying aswell, and I'm not talking about a clan that played maybe 10-15 clanwars in a year, I'm talking about a "competitive" clan that isn't in a clan just to have a tag next to their name in chat.
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T01:39:00-00:00

CW revival
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description: And if I was a moron? Why the fuck would I care who the hell fod or any of those other clans were?
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T01:39:44-00:00

HiImGrn
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description: oHhh
creator: [FsF]GrnFusion
date: 2004-12-09T01:45:35-00:00

CW revival
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description: ah
creator: [FsF]GrnFusion
date: 2004-12-09T01:46:50-00:00

CW revival
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description: BiGPooLoG. I could get a 5.0 kd and 20 mvps in a server without trying aswell, and I'm not talking about a clan that played maybe 10-15 clanwars in a year, I'm talking about a "competitive" clan that isn't in a clan just to have a tag next to their name in chat. Why the fuck do you newbies come up in here and start attacking the forum veterans? It doesn't make any fucking sense at all. You can't possibly win when you do.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T01:52:49-00:00

CW revival
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description: BiGPooLoG. I could get a 5.0 kd and 20 mvps in a server without trying aswell, and I'm not talking about a clan that played maybe 10-15 clanwars in a year, I'm talking about a "competitive" clan that isn't in a clan just to have a tag next to their name in chat. Did you perhaps even look at how many clanners we've played??? Never said you had to care, but i'd figure if you have been in the community longer than a month you'd know at least who [FoD] was, o wait your one of those kids who's been playin for a few months and thinks he's the shit aint ya. I don't even have to make this kid look like a moron, he's doin a mighty fine job of that himself lol.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-09T01:55:54-00:00

CW revival
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description: cowmisfit BiGPooLoG. I could get a 5.0 kd and 20 mvps in a server without trying aswell, and I'm not talking about a clan that played maybe 10-15 clanwars in a year, I'm talking about a "competitive" clan that isn't in a clan just to have a tag next to their name in chat. Did you perhaps even look at how many clanners we've played??? Never said you had to care, but i'd figure if you have been in the community longer than a month you'd know at least who [FoD] was, o wait your one of those kids who's been playin for a few months and thinks he's the shit aint ya. I don't even have to make this kid look like a moron, he's doin a mighty fine job of that himself lol. I think I'm the shit huh? Would you like to set-up a game to settle this or you gonna pull a "I dont play anymore" "I dont do clanners" excuse. If any of you want a game, please ask.
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T02:18:54-00:00

CW revival
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description: j_ball430 Why the fuck do you newbies come up in here and start attacking the forum veterans? It doesn't make any fucking sense at all. You can't possibly win when you do.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T02:20:29-00:00

CW revival
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description: Well...First of all what you have to understand is that no matter how many public games you play. That doesn't make you any better at all. That just means that you know the right spots to camp and make points (I don't know if that's your case, if it's not then good for you). I'm not going to get in any side here even though Clanwars is where i am most active on. I have played Clanwars against and with the best warriors that this game has seen. I don't feel like mentioning anyone, but For those that don't know me take my word that I have been here for years and when I started playing this game I was just p0intwh0ring the WOL ladder and I thought the same of Clanwars, that they were easy and pointless, but after my first month playing clanwars. I realized that It is 1000% harder than I thought. It's not the same thing playing on a 40 players server with 5-6 mixed good people that are good than playing a 3vs3 or more on a clanwar. It's just not the same thing because when you play a clanwar. Most of the times you are playing with people with as good or better skills than you, Organized game and most important on Teamspeak. If you just don't believe me Cowsmisfit, you can go ahead and ask Boink or kil4fun which are the ones that I have played Clanwars against when the real [DOM] was around which I was once part of. (irelevant, but I just thought it would be worth mentioning). Clanwars is the only thing that I have fun with anymore on this game. If you are getting bored of this game you should try it too. It is a lot of fun and you get a lot more skills faster than just playing Public Servers. I know you were part of [FoD] with boink and I saw you guys clanning sometimes, but I don't know really know how many games did you guys win or lost, but looks like you guys didn't face the best clans at that time or else you would have seen the Skill level of the top clans from Clanwars, Which I have always been a part of as well. I already know that this won't make you change you…
creator: c0dynamic
date: 2004-12-09T02:29:19-00:00

CW revival
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description: Btw, FoD and EoE=not found on Clanwars database, must have been played all those games unladdered then? :rolleyes:
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T02:29:24-00:00

CW revival
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description: c0dynamic BTW if you think I am just another newbie bashing on your "Forum Veterans" just go ahead and ask the most veteran renegade player you know...they would know who I am. IE: The creators of this forum or someone as old player as them. I know you're not a newbie. You're member number shows that, and I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Mr. 8 posts who registered today.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T02:34:40-00:00

CW revival
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description: How does his post count represent his skill in Renegade? :rolleyes: Mr. Log > All of you nubs.
creator: c0nFuZ0r
date: 2004-12-09T04:13:49-00:00

CW revival
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description: It seems everytime CW is mentioned here it erupts into a huge arguement about whos better or whatever. I think you guys should just drop this arguement right now because it will just get bigger and bigger, a game will never be arranged to settle it, and eventually crimson will notice this thread and start dropin the ban hammer on the people from CW. The real veterans on this forum know exactly what clanwars is. We are the skilled assholes of renengade. Yes clanwars is the most skilled community on renegade but come on what have we really done for this game besides come onto the n00bstories forum or the renforums or the pits forums and challenge / annoy people. The people here are who are really keepin ren alive. But dude Quote: Why the fuck do you newbies come up in here and start attacking the forum veterans? It doesn't make any fucking sense at all. You can't possibly win when you do. advise dont ever call someone from CW a newbie cuz you will get bombarded with challenges. And as for that list....not even close
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-12-09T04:18:34-00:00

CW revival
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description: j_ball430 c0dynamic BTW if you think I am just another newbie bashing on your "Forum Veterans" just go ahead and ask the most veteran renegade player you know...they would know who I am. IE: The creators of this forum or someone as old player as them. I know you're not a newbie. You're member number shows that, and I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Mr. 8 posts who registered today. Ah you're one of the noobs that thinks that if you have an early join date on a website you're good? :rolleyes:
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T04:47:52-00:00

CW revival
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description: I suck at Renegade. The game is shit, so I don't play it. You'll ask, "Why are you still here then?" and my answer will be, "Because I'm still part of the community, whether or not I play the game." You don't come into a forum which you know nothing about and start taking on people you know nothing about. It's a recipe for disaster. Then again, so is alcohol mixed with a fat whore, right BiGPooLoG?
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T05:37:52-00:00

CW revival
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description: c0dynamic BTW if you think I am just another newbie bashing on your "Forum Veterans" just go ahead and ask the most veteran renegade player you know...they would know who I am. IE: The creators of this forum or someone as old player as them. I know exactly who you are, i've seen you play, i've seen your record i know your not a nub. In fact i almost agree with some of what you said, i respect you because you present it in a good tone, this BigPooLog has been an asshole everytime i incounter him. BigPooLog, [FoD] isn't around anymore :rolleyes: n00b, most people knew that. So your search of recent records wouldn't show shit. [EoE] has two chapters when i played. EoES - Snipers EoEx AOW, http://136.142.210.78/CW/Leagues/Ren/ClanInfo.aspx?ClanID=10895 the first month of our existense. :rolleyes:
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-09T11:56:30-00:00

CW revival
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description: first of all cowmisfit, i've played against you and your clan in a clanwar, and we're 9 out of 10 wins so far. http://www.YeahClan.tk go to screenshots - EoE clanwars You guys have no idea who poolog is, he is arguably the best Renegade player who still plays, so show him some respect. Quit embarrassing yourself by calling him a 'noobie'. PS---> Glyde quit pretending you have active clan members, even if you did your clan is pathetic, end of story.
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-09T14:21:55-00:00

CW revival
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description: j_ball430 I suck at Renegade. The game is shit, so I don't play it. You'll ask, "Why are you still here then?" and my answer will be, "Because I'm still part of the community, whether or not I play the game." You don't come into a forum which you know nothing about and start taking on people you know nothing about. It's a recipe for disaster. Then again, so is alcohol mixed with a fat whore, right BiGPooLoG? And you don't go onto a game forum which you don't play and have no idea what's going on and keep talking right buddy? And for Mr.Misfit, I don't think I've ever "encountered" you, and the records aren't from just recently either :rolleyes: Example: 11647 15FooFoo over 14-WL2- (5 v 5) +10 7/14/2002 10:18:21 PM Match Details ID # over -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Size : WWID : Notice the 7/14/2002? Must be recent eh? EoE wasnt on there, you said you were in there and I checked and you werent. Get it?
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T14:24:40-00:00

CW revival
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description: BiGPooLoG. And you don't go onto a game forum which you don't play and have no idea what's going on and keep talking right buddy? I have no idea what's going on? That's funny, I thought I've been keeping up on all Renegade current events for the past 3 years. I guess you know more than me, I mean, you've been here what, a whole 1 day? I'm sorry I've angered thy master. I request my master's forgiveness. :rolleyes:
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T15:25:57-00:00

CW revival
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description: IceSword7 It seems everytime CW is mentioned here it erupts into a huge arguement about whos better or whatever. Heh, most of the time it's because when they are mentioned it's due to a CW member uttering words such as "1v1", "n00bstories vs Clanwars", "dodgers" ect. So far no one has done anything bad this time, so I don't think bans would be in order.
creator: warranto
date: 2004-12-09T15:45:18-00:00

CW revival
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description: cowmisfit you'd know at least who [FoD] was, umm ok, i remember when i started playing renegade and being a ladder whore, one guy asked me to join F0D (forces of diversion) along with my buddy A0Sweeper, he said i dont even have to play clanners, but its "cool" to be together in the same clan w/e that meant, i didnt join anyway even though they gave me the join pass, F0D is/was in the same level as PROX12 clan and thats the fact cowmisfit o wait your one of those kids who's been playin for a few months and thinks he's the shit aint ya if u have lost 9 out of 10 games against H20 clan, then u really shouldnt have room to talk here, and if u think u and ur friends are "shit", then lets arrange a game, lets say 10vs10 or smth?
creator: remek
date: 2004-12-09T16:06:22-00:00

CW revival
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description: Notice this, i didn't play in those clanners against H20, did you own us?? yes, in aow, because our aow team blows and i know that, our snipers team has gone to hell as well except for me and one or two of the otheres. AT one time we would have had no problem with you but many of our players have left to play other games or just get out and enjoy life. Wiskey if you think i have no room to talk, lets play 1 vs 1 snipe over christmas break. Remek your full of shit, go die
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-09T16:51:43-00:00

CW revival
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description: Yeah big poo log obviously knows nothing about this game, not one of the best/ best players that still plays renegade :rolleyes: FOD was terrible. EoE is the same clan as FOD, I can't recal one time we have ever lost a clan game to you guys, you're a joke. CW > N00bstories
creator: karmai
date: 2004-12-09T17:30:33-00:00

CW revival
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description: Don't have a cow-misfit I didn't say you didn't have room to talk, but yeah i'd 1v1 sniper u anytime, we can have a couple, you host, i host, see how it goes. You still plaY?
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-09T17:42:04-00:00

CW revival
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description: Sniprs Yeah big poo log obviously knows nothing about this game, not one of the best/ best players that still plays renegade :rolleyes: You're a dumbass, especially if that was directed at me. Notice I didn't say "game" you fucking twat. I was implying about the current events in this forum, aka the community. I could care less if he's good. He's been an asshole, and that's enough to label him as a n00b.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T19:47:43-00:00

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description: cowmisfit Its so easy because everyone on there sucks, when i can go in any server on the game and get best k/d and most kills every game and get top 5 just sniping in AOW (Deadeye Blackhand) Its fucking sad, or when i go in a server and can get 20 MVP's in a row. Ah.... I remember the days when I could get MVP in a public server and thought I was the best player ever because of it. (About a year ago). Guess what happened after that? I'll tell you. I played Icesword7 and Doomflama 1v1, got absolutely assraped by both of them. I then realised there was a whole skill level that I had never seen in public servers, and a year later I still haven't. Public servers are easy as fuck to win, because most of the time they are full of idiots and noobs, and even when they are full of "decent" players, they aren't working in co-ordination. When I say "co-ordination", I don't mean three people deciding to get stanks at the same time. I can get a med, light, artillery or an orca/apache and get 100 kills 0 deaths in twenty minutes with my eyes closed... in public servers, that is. In a clan game, that would not happen in a million years. cowmisfit It gets old after a while, i played from the release, the fun ran out for me, too many nubs who accuse of cheating , it makes it no fun. If you played BR, FE or LIGHT in a small game, say 5v5, they wouldn't be the ones making the cheat accusations, you would be. cowmisfit i'd figure if you have been in the community longer than a month you'd know at least who [FoD] was, o wait your one of those kids who's been playin for a few months and thinks he's the shit aint ya. Do you consider me "oldschool"? Most people at N00bstories seem to. Odd really, because I bought Renegade about a year and a half after BiGPooLoG did. cowmisfit I don't even have to make this kid look like a moron, he's doin a mighty fine job of that himself lol. I don't have anything against you so this isn't a flame: BiGPooLoG is right, you are wrong. j_ball430 Why the fuc…
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T19:53:48-00:00

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description: j_ball430 You're a dumbass, especially if that was directed at me. Notice I didn't say "game" you fucking twat. j_ball430 He's been an asshole "Ironic" isn't the word.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T19:55:36-00:00

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description: You're right, it's not ironic. It may be a little hypocritical, but certainly not ironic. Plus, I only am an asshole to others who have an attitude towards me. Either that or when people are beyond stupid.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T20:01:11-00:00

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description: j_ball430 BiGPooLoG. I could get a 5.0 kd and 20 mvps in a server without trying aswell, and I'm not talking about a clan that played maybe 10-15 clanwars in a year, I'm talking about a "competitive" clan that isn't in a clan just to have a tag next to their name in chat. Why the fuck do you newbies come up in here and start attacking the forum veterans? It doesn't make any fucking sense at all. You can't possibly win when you do. This seems to be the post which set you off. It is not offensive at all.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T20:02:58-00:00

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description: gotwhiskey Don't have a cow-misfit I didn't say you didn't have room to talk, but yeah i'd 1v1 sniper u anytime, we can have a couple, you host, i host, see how it goes. You still plaY? Do you recall the one clan game i actually played in against you guys?? That was my last game of Renegade, and before that i hadn't played for months either, i only played because i was needed. Thats the reason i said wait until holiday break, because i need time to get back into the groove after all this time off of it, and because i have school / work right now and i need to get grades up.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-09T20:28:22-00:00

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description: I wasn't trying to be offensive at all. I was just getting a little attitude because of disposableh and his bullshit he was talkin in the hot issues forum.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T20:28:46-00:00

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description: So you (yes, you) started a flame with BiGPooLoG because of a topic in a completely different part of the forum, involving completely different people, regarding a completely different subject. I am jelos.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T20:45:15-00:00

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description: No. I didn't start any flaming. All I asked was why these newbies felt like they can come in and say what they wish to people who are much more respected than them. Also, I didn't start anything because of another thread. The other thread had the same type of annoyance from a newbie. Which is why I got annoyed by it, and then saw yet another newbie say the same thing. I'm certainly not jealous about your "vast" logic and intelligence. :rolleyes:
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T20:49:04-00:00

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description: bigpoolog and spoony are far more respected then you will ever be.
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-09T20:51:29-00:00

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description: Will you just shut the fuck up already? You've already pissed off enough people as it is, and you're not even included in this conversation. Be a good little boy and go play with your balls as the grownups talk.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T20:52:40-00:00

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description: gotwhiskey bigpoolog and spoony are far more respected then you will ever be. spoony for sure is, i'll pm you in a day or two after i figure out what my work scehdual is over the holiday so i know when i can play.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-09T20:53:26-00:00

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description: j_ball430 No. I didn't start any flaming. Does it make you feel better to tell yourself that? j_ball430 All I asked was why these newbies felt like they can come in and say what they wish to people who are much more respected than them. I'm starting to suspect you haven't read a single word I posted. j_ball430 I'm certainly not jealous about your "vast" logic and intelligence. Firstly my mis-spelling of the word "jealous" was an absolutely intentional private joke which quite a lot of people "get", secondly I wouldn't disparage my logic since I have clearly and rationally presented arguments whereas you haven't, thirdly I'm not even gonna go near your "intelligence" remark. j_ball430 Will you just shut the fuck up already? You've already pissed off enough people as it is No, he's pissed one person off. And that person seems to get pissed off rather easily by comments which are completely inoffensive. j_ball430 and you're not even included in this conversation. If you can make such a judgement, then so can I. You are no longer included in this conversation.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T21:08:40-00:00

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description: Show me proof as to where I said anything towards him that was anywhere near a flame, before he did, and don't go quoting that one again because it's clearly not a flame. I'll give you enough credit to believe that you know that. I've read every post that you've made. I don't care whether or not he's respected, the fact is that I didn't know who the fuck he was when he first posted, and since he's a newbie to the forums, I had every right to say it. Don't say a private joke that I'm not a part of. You were asking for me to hold that against you. I've presented arguments just as well as you have, but you seem too stuck in your ways to see that. I only said the intelligence remark because of your misspelling. Maybe I'll just say that's a private joke and expect that you were supposed to get it. :rolleyes: He's an idiot, and I'm not just talking about this thread. He wasn't a part of our conversation, and he decided to butt-in. Hence why I said that. Since I AM a part of the conversation, I'm using my judgement to say that I am a part of it.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T21:15:45-00:00

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description: j_ball430 I've read every post that you've made. Perhaps, but it's fair to say you haven't understood them. j_ball430 I don't care whether or not he's respected Seems to me you're completely going back on what you said earlier about the way people should act to people "more respected" than themselves. First being "respected" is paramount, then it's irrelevant? j_ball430 the fact is that I didn't know who the fuck he was when he first posted Likewise, I didn't know who you were either, but did I flame you right off the bat? No. For that matter, neither did BiGPooLoG. j_ball430 and since he's a newbie to the forums, I had every right to say it. I didn't realise your post count determines your worth as a human being. We learn something every day, don't we. j_ball430 Don't say a private joke that I'm not a part of. You were asking for me to hold that against you. ^^ what the hell? j_ball430 I've presented arguments just as well as you have I really hate to burst your bubble, but no, you haven't. j_ball430 but you seem too stuck in your ways to see that If being "stuck in my ways" means I'm actually capable of thinking in a straight line, then you can congratulate yourself in the fact that you are not "stuck in your ways". j_ball430 I only said the intelligence remark because of your misspelling. You missed a hyphen. Clearly you are educationally subnormal! j_ball430 Maybe I'll just say that's a private joke and expect that you were supposed to get it. Maybe you'll say something completely off-topic, baseless and unsupportable to avert attention from the fact you were absolutely dead wrong. j_ball430 He's an idiot, and I'm not just talking about this thread. I really don't think you're in a position to say something like that. j_ball430 He wasn't a part of our conversation, and he decided to butt-in. Hence why I said that. Since I AM a part of the conversation, I'm using my judgement to say that I am a part of it. Unless my memory and my eyesight completely fail me, your…
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T21:33:23-00:00

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description: He's not well respected on these forums, so I don't exactly see how that applies. I didn't start flaming him. Again, I had just asked a question. When did I even apply that it does? The amount of time you've been here, helps to somewhat determine the amount of respect you get. You said that saying "jelos" was a private joke. I'm not a part of that, so don't expect me to get it since I'm not. Yes, I have. You just seem to think that everything I say is irrational. Meh, maybe that made no sense. Either way, you just seem to ignore all my posts. Both spellings are correct. Clearly you are educationally subnormal as well! I was just making a point, that you seemed to overlook again. I'm not an idiot, so I think that I am in a position to say so. Like I play Renegade? I figured SuperMidget knew what he was talking about. I didn't care enough to find out for myself. I realized that as soon as I posted it, but I figured you couldn't see me as any more of an "idiot" anyways, so I didn't change it.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T21:50:28-00:00

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description: j_ball430 BiGPooLoG. And you don't go onto a game forum which you don't play and have no idea what's going on and keep talking right buddy? I have no idea what's going on? That's funny, I thought I've been keeping up on all Renegade current events for the past 3 years. I guess you know more than me, I mean, you've been here what, a whole 1 day? I'm sorry I've angered thy master. I request my master's forgiveness. :rolleyes: Then you'd know who I was. Maybe the inside joke was directed towards me? I got it, dont give a shit if you did or not. "I could care less if he's good. He's been an asshole, and that's enough to label him as a n00b." I'm being a dumb/new asshole? Well that made sense, I think you may want to stop embarassing yourself, you aren't going to win.
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-09T22:12:34-00:00

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description: I'll embarass myself all I want, but I know that I'm not. I may be outnumbered, and Spoony outranks me in respect, but I don't give a shit. I'm still going to voice my opinion. I respect him, but that doesn't mean I'm going to listen to every god damn word he says AND agree with it. BTW...I keep up with current events about the community, not individuals.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-09T22:21:02-00:00

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description: j_ball430 He's not well respected on these forums ...and... you are? If you believe an opinion is worthless unless you registered before a particular date or your post count is over a particular figure, then I feel nothing for you but the most abject pity. j_ball430 I didn't start flaming him. Again, I had just asked a question. . No. You "asked a question" which was directly intended to flame (something you clearly aren't adept at, I must say) someone who had said absolutely nothing offensive, and to further demonstrate your stupidity, YOU CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT HE WAS THE ONE BEING AN "ASSHOLE" j_ball430 The amount of time you've been here, helps to somewhat determine the amount of respect you get. I've been on this forum longer than my post count and my registration date would imply, so you've embarrassed yourself there. (again) Has it occurred to you that while you've been posting garbage on this forum and believing the amount of garbage you've posted proves you're a better person, BiGPooLoG has actually been playing the game which this forum revolves around? j_ball430 You said that saying "jelos" was a private joke. I'm not a part of that, so don't expect me to get it since I'm not. To be brutally frank, I really don't expect you to understand anything at all. j_ball430 Yes, I have. You just seem to think that everything I say is irrational. . "Think" is the wrong word. "Think" implies uncertainty. The fact that you have spectacularly failed to raise a valid point, is no uncertain matter. j_ball430 you just seem to ignore all my posts. I'm not ignoring them, I'm saying they are complete rubbish. There's a difference. j_ball430 I was just making a point In the interests of accuracy, I implore you to insert the word "trying" in that sentence.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-09T22:29:16-00:00

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description: I'll admit, I've been completely irrational while posting, but I do have a rational explanation. I'm not using it as an excuse, and if you insist that it is, I'll regard you as I've regarded BiGPooLoG. I've been extremely stressed out and tired lately. I'm not saying all my actions should be excused because of that, but you can now realize why I have been acting the way I am. I do, however, find it funny that you completely ignored my comment about me respecting you. Why is that? Is there a reason for me to NOT respect you? -------- I never said I was well respected, but I sure as hell am more respected than he is on these forums. Whether or not I'm more respected than you and others is not the point. Who the fuck are you to tell me what my posts are intended to mean? I'm pretty sure that I am the only one who really knows what my intentions are. Just as only you know what your intentions are in a post. We all know you've been here for a long time. I'm not just looking at the member number or amount of posts you have. Notice how I said "amount of time". Nowhere in my statement did I address member number or number of posts. Stop trying to say what I mean, because you obviously don't know. Why the fuck do you keep addressing the idea that my post count actually means something? I never said post count does...post counts only tell whether or not you spam. As you can see my post count, I've done my fair share of spamming. You don't know me. I may not be the smartest person, and I certainly don't give a fuck enough to pretend that I do, but I certainly am not stupid. My GPA is horrible, but that has nothing to do with my intelligence level. Anyone will tell you that. Now you're God, eh? Whatever you say goes? So just because you THINK you KNOW that I'm irrational then it automatically is? Yeah, who's thinking he's the better person now? :rolleyes: You don't address any of my valid points. While you don't seem to think I have many, you must agree that I have more than yo…
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-10T01:53:59-00:00

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description: j_ball430 I do, however, find it funny that you completely ignored my comment about me respecting you. Why is that? Is there a reason for me to NOT respect you? I don't much care whether I am respected by someone I've never heard of, that's why I ignored it. How much do you actually know about me? Not much, I'm guessing. But you respect me? Why's that then? j_ball430 I never said I was well respected, but I sure as hell am more respected than he is on these forums. Whether or not I'm more respected than you and others is not the point. What do you want, a biscuit? If BiGPooLoG has made a post saying "OMG I DEMAND YOU ALL RESPECT ME", I haven't seen it. I'm still confused as to why you jumped on him about "forum veterans", but we can chalk that down to being "tired" if you really want. j_ball430 We all know you've been here for a long time. I'm not just looking at the member number or amount of posts you have. Notice how I said "amount of time" Like I said, not that long. Not as long as BiGPooLoG, that's for sure. But maybe he just doesn't post on this forum? j_ball430 Nowhere in my statement did I address member number or number of posts. Stop trying to say what I mean, because you obviously don't know. I do apologise. I don't know where I could've gotten the idea that you judged "forum veterancy" by post count or registration date. j_ball430 I've done my fair share of spamming. Yes, I think we can agree on that. j_ball430 You don't know me. You flamed BiGPooLoG because you didn't know him. See the gaping flaw? j_ball430 I may not be the smartest person No shit. j_ball430 Now you're God, eh? I was actually worshipped as a god once, but that was nothing to do with Renegade. I guess they'd never seen a white person before. j_ball430 So just because you THINK you KNOW that I'm irrational then it automatically is? Yeah, who's thinking he's the better person now? :rolleyes: You haven't given me a reason to think otherwise yet. j_ball430 You don't address any of my valid …
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-10T02:18:29-00:00

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description: I'm tired of you taking everything out of context, as you had done more than once in that last post. Do me a favor and put me on ignore. It'll do us both a favor.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-10T02:24:39-00:00

CW revival
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description: Cause your posts are almost as bad as cowmisfit's comebacks > so spoony has to break them down for you so you can see how much of an ass your making yourself look like.
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-10T02:43:42-00:00

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description: No, not "cause" my posts are "almost" as bad as Zach's. Spoony isn't doing shit but twisting my posts. He used to be respectable in my eyes, but now he's just becoming an asshole. Trust me, it's not because he's arguing with me. I argue with plenty of people, but I don't see them as assholes. I've noticed a change for the worse, and I'm not the only person who has, either. I know I'm making myself look like an ass, but if you cared to see my reasoning, you'd at least understand...if you're capable.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-10T02:50:15-00:00

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description: I have more respect for Spoony now then ever
creator: GoTWhisKéY
date: 2004-12-10T03:32:42-00:00

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description: gotwhiskey first of all cowmisfit, i've played against you and your clan in a clanwar, and we're 9 out of 10 wins so far. http://www.YeahClan.tk go to screenshots - EoE clanwars You guys have no idea who poolog is, he is arguably the best Renegade player who still plays, so show him some respect. Quit embarrassing yourself by calling him a 'noobie'. PS---> Glyde quit pretending you have active clan members, even if you did your clan is pathetic, end of story. You don't know my clan. The end. gotwhiskey I have more respect for Spoony now then ever 1 H4V3 M0R3 R3SP3C7 F0R SP00NY N0W TH4N 3V3R!1!1!1!!!1!!
creator: glyde51
date: 2004-12-10T03:48:50-00:00

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description: Quote: Posted by cowmisfit: Its so easy because everyone on there sucks You gave this link to your clan's history on ClanWars... http://136.142.210.78/CW/Leagues/Ren/ClanInfo.aspx?ClanID=10895 So that shows this... Let me tell ya, that 54% career win percentage really shows me how easy it must have been for ya. :rolleyes: And you hardly played anyone that would be considered "good" by today's standards. So, ya, congratulations?
creator: CackBoy26
date: 2004-12-10T06:44:09-00:00

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description: *sigh* another moron. THATS MY CLANS RECORD YOU JACKASS NOT MINE! THATS NOT ME PLAYING IN ALL OF THOSE THATS NOT ME GETTING US ALL THOSE LOSSES YOU MORON. People as stupid as you should be shot.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-10T11:57:15-00:00

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description: I concur, Cowmisfit isn't everywhere at once doing clan wars everyday.
creator: glyde51
date: 2004-12-10T13:01:07-00:00

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description: cowmisfit *sigh* another moron. THATS MY CLANS RECORD YOU JACKASS NOT MINE! THATS NOT ME PLAYING IN ALL OF THOSE THATS NOT ME GETTING US ALL THOSE LOSSES YOU MORON. People as stupid as you should be shot. Oh you're one of those guys. I'M IN A CLAN BUT EVERY LOSS IS THEIR FAULT NOT TMINE IM 50-0 FFS! And the guy that tried to talk 1337, well that was just sad. I love the comebacks you guys think of here. You get owned after every post you make and then you say something like 1 H4V3 M0R3 R3SP3C7 F0R SP00NY N0W TH4N 3V3R!1!1!1!!!1!!, damn I want to be that cool. Cow maybe you can teach me, I know your busy and all having a 100% win percentage, but if you can clear up some time please teach me how to think up some good comebacks.
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-10T13:58:25-00:00

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description: pfft... I happen to be the most hated person here, or mhp...
creator: glyde51
date: 2004-12-10T14:18:51-00:00

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description: And for la spoom, c0dy's list was from kills on the hall of champs...not sure what that has to do with anything though.
creator: CackBoy26
date: 2004-12-10T16:12:11-00:00

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description: BiGPooLoG. You get owned after every post you make . Yes yes, i got owned on a forum :rolleyes: Silly nerd, go get some more tape for your glasses so you can read how stupid your post are.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-10T16:28:50-00:00

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description: Dude EoE is terrible. My record playing aginst you With ST (ap3x's clan) 4-1 With *h2o* (my former clan) 12-0 with -yeah- (former clan) 6-0 You beat us 3v6 on complex that one win, everyone was afk
creator: karmai
date: 2004-12-10T17:05:44-00:00

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description: Sniprs Dude EoE is terrible. My record playing aginst you With ST (ap3x's clan) 4-1 With *h2o* (my former clan) 12-0 with -yeah- (former clan) 6-0 You beat us 3v6 on complex that one win, everyone was afk Go back and read the post you fag, i know the AOW divsion sucks and our sniperse are gone except for me and one or two other ones, jackass.. I played ONCE against you guys, now shut your mouth you nub.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-10T20:26:10-00:00

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description: Yo just drop this who gives a shit if you beat them, no one. And as for the arguement with spoony and that other guy, your just repeating the same thing over and over just drop that too.
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-12-10T21:44:18-00:00

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description: That's because he's too stupid to understand the first five times, but I'm sure given time, and maybe a hint or two, it'll sink in eventually.
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-10T21:59:34-00:00

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description: "Cow maybe you can teach me, I know your busy and all having a 100% win percentage, but if you can clear up some time please teach me how to think up some good comebacks." cowmisfit BiGPooLoG. You get owned after every post you make . Yes yes, i got owned on a forum :rolleyes: Silly nerd, go get some more tape for your glasses so you can read how stupid your post are. Game Set Match?
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-10T22:11:20-00:00

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description: cowmisit, sniping died in renegade a long time ago, only the same 15 people still do it
creator: karmai
date: 2004-12-13T13:58:27-00:00

CW revival
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description: Because most of the REALLY good ones have quit, only a few still play regularly.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-13T20:28:36-00:00

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description: EVERY1 U R AL NUBZ!! WTF!!
creator: Homey
date: 2004-12-14T01:44:29-00:00

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description: cowmisfit Because most of the REALLY good ones have quit, only a few still play regularly. I can't think of the last time one of the guys that ONLY snipe actually beat me sniping... Whiskey and myself challange any of you snipers guys. Map = city fly, or walls flying. One on islands if you insist, you will still lose.
creator: karmai
date: 2004-12-14T16:47:44-00:00

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description: Sniprs cowmisfit Because most of the REALLY good ones have quit, only a few still play regularly. I can't think of the last time one of the guys that ONLY snipe actually beat me sniping... Whiskey and myself challange any of you snipers guys. Map = city fly, or walls flying. One on islands if you insist, you will still lose. WTF is the point of challenging people here. A: They have nothing to prove B: They just dont wanna play C: They quit renegade :rolleyes:
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-12-14T19:34:37-00:00

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description: ^^^ What he said, i've only played you once, and i'll give it to you you are pretty good, but not sooo good that you could pwn anyone and everyone. Basiicly what sword said is right, im one of those ONLY sniper persons, but guess what playing me wouldn't matter much , because like he said "quit renegade" as in i have played mabey 2 times in about 4 or 5 months. Im starting to get somewhat into it again, i don't have time for it anymore like i used to. I have a job , school, and one of those things called a social life to take care of now.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-14T20:48:50-00:00

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description: YA YOU LOSERS I TALK TO THIS ONE GUY IN MY GYM CLASS SO I>YOU K THX! GOD DAMN YOUR SO COOOOOOOOL
creator: BiGPooLoG.
date: 2004-12-14T22:08:53-00:00

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description: I'm not going to get into the middle of this (and I expect Spoony to come charging in and start flaming me with the intent of being an asshole), but I don't care how good you are Poolog, you just made yourself look like an idiot. You may want to change your post up a bit to sound a little more mature than BiGPooLog. YA YOU LOSERS I TALK TO THIS ONE GUY IN MY GYM CLASS SO I>YOU K THX! GOD DAMN YOUR SO COOOOOOOOl If your post was sarcastic, at least put a ":rolleyes:" to show that.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-14T22:15:21-00:00

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description: cowmisfit i've only played you once, and i'll give it to you you are pretty good, but not sooo good that you could pwn anyone and everyone. um... you form that opinion based on one game? in which he was likely just mucking around with buggies and chem troopers, which is what BR generally do in publics?
creator: Spoony_old
date: 2004-12-14T22:21:51-00:00

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description: 1: Spoony Cows was talking to snprs in his last post not poolog 2: Uded your a moron and your not funny at all 3: Jball just drop it, you have no arguement, you started the arguement not the other way around and no poolog is not some newbie.
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-12-14T22:29:23-00:00

CW revival
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description: IceSword7 3: Jball just drop it, you have no arguement, you started the arguement not the other way around and no poolog is not some newbie. Really now? And to think that I was trying to argue... Silly me. :rolleyes: I was just pointing out that his post made him look like an idiot without noting that it was sarcasm. Please, read my post first.
creator: cheesesoda
date: 2004-12-14T22:32:59-00:00

CW revival
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description: IceSword7 1: Spoony Cows was talking to snprs in his last post not poolog 2: Uded your a moron and your not funny at all 3: Jball just drop it, you have no arguement, you started the arguement not the other way around and no poolog is not some newbie. I like ice more and more everytime he post. As he said spoony, i wasn't talkin about poo homo.
creator: cowmisfit
date: 2004-12-14T22:41:21-00:00