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description: I took a moment to read your character info. Regarding the Mobile Artillery... Quote: it's not going to last without engineer support for long in a one on one fight against most other vehicles Quote: it can be difficult to hit infantry close enough to do massive damage due to the inaccuracy of the Mobile Artillery's cannon Quote: Be careful when taking on enemy tanks with a Mobile Artillery; unless you can outrange them they're probably going to kick your ass Quote: If you see this happening, the easiest way to remove them is to get a Havoc or PIC Sydney Quote: Unless you're outside their range, I don't recommend taking on tanks with a Mobile Artillery as you will probably lose Lol. It's been a while since I had such a good laugh
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-28T23:47:20-00:00

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description: Then I take it you've never seen Priest of B in a tank.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-28T23:55:22-00:00

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description: Whats the issue? I would agree with most of if not all those quotes. The Mobile Artillery is very powerful but even a minigunner can make swiss cheese of it pretty quickly.
creator: Blazer
date: 2004-05-29T01:06:34-00:00

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description: I think, spoony, that when writing that, they assumed the reader would be somewhat of a newbie, and not have powerful hax0rz like yourself.
creator: mrpirate
date: 2004-05-29T01:24:57-00:00

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description: I agree with all but the second quote.
creator: IRON FART
date: 2004-05-29T01:29:44-00:00

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description: IRON-FART I agree with all but the second quote. He's refering to the shell, not the splash.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T01:31:12-00:00

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description: I wasn't referring to host arty, which is godlike accurate, I was referring to average arty. And yes, I regularly own arties even with regular rifle soldiers or shotgunners, so I tend to have a biased view of their usefulness. Excellent pointwhore tools, but without repair support they tend to crumple under fire.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-29T02:51:02-00:00

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description: With good teamwork, a team of 4-8 people with at least 2 Techs to repair can go out and inflict some serious damage. And I mean destruction, not just PWing. Thats great fun when people work well together.
creator: IRON FART
date: 2004-05-29T02:58:09-00:00

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description: Indeed. Too bad it rarely happens unless you pay people off.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-29T06:32:26-00:00

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description: "point whoring" is the term that newbies take refuge under for being owned...
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2004-05-29T08:10:34-00:00

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description: I may as well elaborate Quote: it's not going to last without engineer support for long in a one on one fight against most other vehicles I can take any GDI ground vehicle with an arty ten times out of ten. Med: nine times out of ten. (Unless it's driven by a top CW player, in which case it would be more like four out of ten). And I don't need the range advantage to do it. Quote: it can be difficult to hit infantry close enough to do massive damage due to the inaccuracy of the Mobile Artillery's cannon Bodyshotting infantry with an arty is easy as hell if you're reasonably close. At long distance... well, can't do it every shot, but it's do-able Quote: Be careful when taking on enemy tanks with a Mobile Artillery; unless you can outrange them they're probably going to kick your ass Read the reply to the first quote, it's the same thing really Quote: If you see this happening, the easiest way to remove them is to get a Havoc or PIC Sydney False. If the artillery is piloted by a tech, which it probably will be, a single Havoc or PIC simply cannot win unless he manages to kill the tech, which is unlikely against a good player. The only GDI weaponry a technician can't repair over are: med, MRLS, mammoth and orca missiles. And APC+PIC, but most people don't know what that is anyway Quote: Unless you're outside their range, I don't recommend taking on tanks with a Mobile Artillery as you will probably lose Again, this is virtually the same as the first and third quotes. Whoever wrote this commentary has never seen an arty piloted by someone who actually knows how to use it
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T11:27:58-00:00

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description: spoonyrat I can take any GDI ground vehicle with an arty ten times out of ten. Med: nine times out of ten. (Unless it's driven by a top CW player, in which case it would be more like four out of ten). And I don't need the range advantage to do it. Again: You've never seen Priest of B in a tank. Quote: Bodyshotting infantry with an arty is easy as hell if you're reasonably close. At long distance... well, can't do it every shot, but it's do-able Note the key word "can", as in "can be difficult". I find it fairly easy to hit any infantry with a tank shell, but that doesn't mean there aren't situations where it is difficult. Quote: False. If the artillery is piloted by a tech, which it probably will be, a single Havoc or PIC simply cannot win unless he manages to kill the tech, which is unlikely against a good player. The only GDI weaponry a technician can't repair over are: med, MRLS, mammoth and orca missiles. And APC+PIC, but most people don't know what that is anyway So let me get this straight: You're using utterly circumstantial situations to argue a concrete conclusion. Well, two can play that game. Even if the Artillery WAS manned with a technician, if you're a PIC or a Havoc, or hell, even a Deadeye, if you can't hit the tard when he hops out of his tank, then you lack discipline, friend. It's fairly easy to navigate around the artillery to hit a unit from any angle. Quote: Whoever wrote this commentary has never seen an arty piloted by someone who actually knows how to use it I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T12:59:49-00:00

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description: Quote: I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about. It's pretty obvious I understand the way tank weaponry works a lot better than the FUD. It's OK, don't feel bad, we all go through a stage of not knowing what an artillery is capable of Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds :rolleyes:
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T13:23:39-00:00

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description: Quote: Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds That was a mistake from what I read. That certain someone is Deathgod and he also posted this: Quote: http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=10145 Yeah, I wrote that at 2 in the morning, and I forgot to calculate the reload time between barrels. It should be 28/38 seconds, and it has been corrected on the site as well. That is.... if you had even bothered to read. Trust me - Deathgod knows what he is talking about.
creator: cokemaster
date: 2004-05-29T13:36:56-00:00

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description: spoonyrat Quote: I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about. It's pretty obvious I understand the way tank weaponry works a lot better than the FUD. It's OK, don't feel bad, we all go through a stage of not knowing what an artillery is capable of Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds :rolleyes: The only thing that is obvious is that you have no clue as to what you're talking about. And while I see that you're in still in that stage you refer to, you really shouldn't be talking about how Artillery work.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T13:48:19-00:00

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description: The only thing easier to body shoot with then an arty is a med...Yes it is hard sometimes in a shit ass warp server but generally its easy. If the server is good you will get the same splash as the host. A pic/havoc will never beat a arty by itself if the driver has a tech, and no your not likely gonna kill him from range cause he can just hide. Its like a med can never lose to a light if it has a hotwire.
creator: Homey
date: 2004-05-29T14:04:42-00:00

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description: spoonyrat Quote: I hope your refering to your own commentary, because you have generally no idea what you're talking about. It's pretty obvious I understand the way tank weaponry works a lot better than the FUD. It's OK, don't feel bad, we all go through a stage of not knowing what an artillery is capable of Oh, and also your comment comes from someone whose clan site stated that a mammoth could destroy a building in fourteen seconds :rolleyes: I think it's pretty obvious you're a moron. This wasn't meant to be the most l33t STRATAGIS NAD TIPS 4 WININ EVAR, it was meant to be a guide for people who have or have not played the game so that they know some basic info on what a vehicle/character can or cannot do. If I handled every possible situation that could arise, each character's section would be 10-15 pages long. I'm not going to do that, although we may go more in-depth on the map specific pages if we decide to do those. The real question here: if you are so godly at this game, why are you reading a basic guide for it?
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-29T14:10:10-00:00

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description: Quote me where I said I was "godly"? I don't see the word "god" anywhere in MY name :rolleyes: What was it you said the other week? Something like "I'm tired of players passing off misinformation as fact"? I'm just saying, given how wildly inaccurate your character info is (the Artillery anyway, I haven't really read the others thoroughly), it's a rather ironic condemnation
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T14:41:15-00:00

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description: That term is implied, not stated. spoonyrat I can take any GDI ground vehicle with an arty ten times out of ten.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T14:45:07-00:00

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description: Any good arty player can do that. But you're unlikely to see such players in public servers
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T14:46:18-00:00

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description: If you're saying that it's unlikely to see such players in public servers, why, pretell, are you reading and commenting on a guide designed to inform said players?
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T14:48:31-00:00

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description: Because, like DeathGod, I'm tired of people passing off misinformation as fact. Reminds me of the Pits forum when they said an arty shell doing more than 55 damage was reason to think I cheated.
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T14:53:28-00:00

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description: There is no misinformation. Just because you say there is, doesn't mean that it exists. Also, throwing hypothetical situations such as your technician senario doesn't change the fact that a Havoc or PIC could quite easily destory an artillery in a pinch.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T14:58:30-00:00

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description: Do you mind editing that so it's comprehensible?
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T15:26:50-00:00

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description: It is comprehensible.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T15:50:48-00:00

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description: Lol this is funny... Spoony > FUD Page 2
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-05-29T16:31:44-00:00

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description: wait, spoony, i don't understand. you're saying that we're wrong to say "Be careful when taking on enemy tanks with a Mobile Artillery" but then you yourself claim that against a good med tank you can't even win half the time. nobody cares if you think you're really good with an arty and you can kill all the newbie no-skill tank drivers. hell, i regularly kill stealth tanks, light tanks, and flame tanks with an apc. that doesn't mean an apc is awesome against those tanks; it just means that the drivers in the tanks suck. (note: i didn't mention artilleries here because apc's actually ARE pretty good against artilleries, even if the arty driver is decent.) if you're a lot better than another player, you'll win in a 1v1 vehicle fight most of the time regardless of the vehicles involved. skill matters a lot more than what character or vehicle you have. i'll admit that a very experienced artillery driver can be a scary thing. but personally i think a very skilled med driver is even scarier -- almost as destructive and a helluva lot harder to kill. it would be irresponsible to write that mobile artilleries can easily destroy any vehicle in the game, because that's not really true. the simple fact is that mobile artilleries can do massive damage, but they can also be destroyed quite easily. and as you said yourself, in a 1v1 fight, a good med tank will beat a good arty more often than not.
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-05-29T16:39:12-00:00

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description: I'm not talking about "good" med drivers. I'm talking about the best med drivers. By the way, I was in the FUD memorial server the other day. Before the inevitable ban, it was myself on GDI vs two Nod players on Field (one of whom was N00b1rus, who I suspect is actually a FUD player smurfing). I had a med on the field, they both rushed me at the same time with 2 artilleries and they couldn't even take half my armour away before they were destroyed. Purpose of this tale is to explain the kind of players FUD are usually pitted against
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T17:13:45-00:00

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description: Usage of a vehicle is opinion and as such is unlikely to be highly inaccurate as it will differ from person to person. Damage info is factual because it can be tested and verified and will be the same in every single situation. Irony implies that I am passing off more misinformation, which I am not. All actual errors which have been reported to me have been corrected, and as far as I can tell now the data itself is good to go. The rest is an opinion. I find artilleries to be of little use in tank-to-tank combat without a lot of support because they're fragile. Granted, I could own anyone using an arty if I so chose, but I would prefer to be on foot or in a med/ST/LT. You have implied that you think you're pretty hot shit from your posts and your sig. I don't think I need any more than that to come to the conclusion that you think you are so. Whether you may or may not be is not my problem, but if you want to go write some strats for l33t people feel free.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-29T17:36:52-00:00

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description: spoonyrat By the way, I was in the FUD memorial server the other day. Before the inevitable ban, it was myself on GDI vs two Nod players on Field (one of whom was N00b1rus, who I suspect is actually a FUD player smurfing). I had a med on the field, they both rushed me at the same time with 2 artilleries and they couldn't even take half my armour away before they were destroyed. Purpose of this tale is to explain the kind of players FUD are usually pitted against I highly doubt this story, as you've been banned already before, and there is no one in my clan who plays as N00b1rus, either as a main name or an alternate. If you decided to make a new name and get a new IP to evade the ban, I find it amusing that you try to come onto our server when you think we're so much below you.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-29T17:39:46-00:00

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description: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA spoony you're a dumbass. You're trying to convince people that arties are 1337 vs meds, so you tell a story about how a med can kill 2 arties? Next time you make up a story, try making up one that would support your argument instead of one that just makes you look like a fool.
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-05-29T18:02:18-00:00

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description: I was playing in your server as CEspoony. And my IP was the same as when it was banned before. Hardly ban evasion. The reason I joined your server is because, a week or so earlier, I challenged N00b1rus to a game, but he would only accept if it was played in the FUD server. Then I didn't see him online for a while.
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T18:55:47-00:00

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description: A screenshot from the game I'm talking about http://www.n00bstories.com/image.view.php?id=1333036610 A screenshot from the game a few weeks back involving Mahkra http://www.n00bstories.com/image.view.php?id=1328524664 Same nick, as you see. I can't prove that it was the same IP, but perhaps your server logs can answer that for you. Also, read this again, but this time slowly, and carefully so it sinks in. Quote: Purpose of this tale is to explain the kind of players FUD are usually pitted against
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-29T19:20:33-00:00

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description: Why don't you stop trying to change your motives for this thread? First you say you want to stop the flow of misinformation, now you're whining about the kind of people that go on the FUD server. It's already been stated that the purpose of that character information is meant for newer players, not you "UBER LEET SHZT" kiddies at CW. Furthermore, there is no "N00b1rus" in clan FUD, nor is it an alias of any of FUD's members. Now why don't you think hard about what you say when you post instead of taking the usual CW method and just spewing out arrogence and ignorance.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-29T22:50:48-00:00

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description: spoonyrat And my IP was the same as when it was banned before. Hardly ban evasion. actually, your IP was NOT the same as it was the first time. i never took you off the banlist, nor do i ever intend to. if you WERE playing as cespoony with the same IP, then it was NOT on my server. spoonyrat Also, read this again, but this time slowly, and carefully so it sinks in. Quote: Purpose of this tale is to explain the kind of players FUD are usually pitted against i know what you said your reason was for telling that story. my point was that your story provided evidence completely counter to your original argument. in trying to make a second point, you completely disproved your first point. i know it's a difficult concept to grasp, and i'm sorry i'm making your head hurt from thinking so hard. if you'd stop arguing with people that are infinitely smarter than you, though, it would keep your headaches to a minimum.
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-05-30T00:30:53-00:00

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creator: Blazer
date: 2004-05-30T00:37:06-00:00

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description: mahkra actually, your IP was NOT the same as it was the first time. i never took you off the banlist, nor do i ever intend to. if you WERE playing as cespoony with the same IP, then it was NOT on my server. Same server. Same nick. Same IP. Wow, you don't even know how to ban someone. Get 'em Mahkra
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-30T00:42:47-00:00

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description: I suggest an admin move this towards the Tactics and Strategies section.
creator: U927
date: 2004-05-30T01:26:12-00:00

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description: spoonyrat Wow, you don't even know how to ban someone. um.... i'm in FUD.... and you think i DON'T know how to ban? ROFLMAO also, i don't see any evidence that those screenshots are from MY server. i also see nothing that shows that those shots were taken AFTER i banned you. the simple fact of the matter is that you are banned from my server and therefore could not have played there with the same nick & IP. another thing -- that guy in your screenies is named "N00B1US", not "N00b1rus". i thought you were talking about a game against "N00b1rus", but then you posted screenies with a different guy in them. come on, fool; get your story straight.
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-05-30T01:42:52-00:00

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description: Compared to saying a mammoth kills a building in 14 seconds, I hardly think the omission of a letter from a nick is such a hideous mistake. Believe whatever you want. It was your server. It was the nick CEspoony. It was the same IP as before. It was after you banned me. Those are the facts. You might want to ask the person who banned me the second time (I.E. the game with N00b1us). I'm not sure who that was, but there was an admin message saying something along the lines of: "CEspoony is also known as thexorb and xxd0mexx. He is banned forever" (For this person's information, I am indeed thexorb, but I am not xxd0mexx)
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-30T01:54:41-00:00

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description: spoonyrat I hardly think the omission of a letter from a nick is such a hideous mistake. actually, omission is when you leave something out. you seem to have inserted an extra letter into the name. but whatever. i'm done talking here. i've clearly demonstrated your stupidity, so i will take my leave of the ren forums for a while again. i have better things to do with my time than argue about how many times you've been banned from FUD servers
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-05-30T02:51:24-00:00

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description: I think Blazer's picture summed up this thread nicely.
creator: IRON FART
date: 2004-05-30T02:54:14-00:00

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description: Spoony what are you doing man, every member of FUD is probably graduated from lawschool. There's no way you can win an online arguement against them, whatever little flaw they find in your posts after reading them for the 10th time they will use against you. And it just keeps going, sadly that's the only thing they can win, online arguements...
creator: prox
date: 2004-05-30T03:05:15-00:00

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description: xC4pRoX Spoony what are you doing man, every member of FUD is probably graduated from lawschool. There's no way you can win an online arguement against them, whatever little flaw they find in your posts after reading them for the 10th time they will use against you. And it just keeps going, sadly that's the only thing they can win, online arguements... Except that since we're all lawyers, we pull down the phatty bucks every year while you're stuck working at BK for minimum wage with the rest of your family. I suggest you can it, queer. Spoony, I find it amusing you keep bringing up an error I made when I was writing pages at 2 AM. If all you can do is bring up an error that I fixed as soon as I was informed of it that was made when I was half-coherent, I feel that the rest of our points are unassailable, and as such you might as well stop posting in this thread. In fact, someone can lock this thread for all I care because it wasn't intended to do anything but start a flame war in the first place.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-30T03:15:44-00:00

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description: Quote: If all you can do is bring up an error that I fixed as soon as I was informed of it that was made when I was half-coherent One can only wonder why you're posting things when half-coherent, anyway.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2004-05-30T03:43:18-00:00

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description: Because I have to give myself a handicap so it's fair for everyone else, obviously.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-30T04:32:57-00:00

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description: I think Icesword summed it up better than I ever could Prox also makes a fair point. FUD being FUD, and thus unable to accept how wrong they are about any given point. I mean, for a clan that thinks they know everything, they sure are wrong a lot
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-30T11:19:13-00:00

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description: mahkra i've clearly demonstrated your stupidity, so i will take my leave of the ren forums for a while again substitute "demonstrated your stupidity" with "lost the argument"
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-30T11:28:36-00:00

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description: spoonyrat Prox also makes a fair point. FUD being FUD, and thus unable to accept how wrong they are about any given point. I mean, for a clan that thinks they know everything, they sure are wrong a lot If we're so wrong, why not go off and make your own character information charts. You know, Spoonyrat's version, where Artillery are the BESTASS UNIT EVAR. Then we'll talk about misinformation, m'kay?
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-05-30T15:51:05-00:00

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description: spoonyrat Prox also makes a fair point. FUD being FUD, and thus unable to accept how wrong they are about any given point. I mean, for a clan that thinks they know everything, they sure are wrong a lot We never claimed to know everything. We have been wrong before and are willing to accept that and correct whatever the problem was, as has already been evidenced with the pages. You, on the other hand, like to put yourself on a pedestal above everyone here. I fail to see how you have any room to critique us.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-30T16:26:11-00:00

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description: That's not what you said in your goodbye speech. If I recall, that was something more along the lines of "We are the true masters of Renegade, nobody compares to our strategic excellence" despite the fact you've never really played anyone decent, so you wouldn't really know, would you?
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-30T17:07:31-00:00

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description: I don't think you read the entire thing. You must have stopped after we said most of the people in this community were idiots, which is still a statement I stand by and which has actually been reinforced by our little sojourn back here for some info. I believe the general idea of the post was that we were tired of innovating techniques when no one else does. I've seen how members of your clan play, and I already know I could easily win tons of clan matches just by pointwhoring. Frankly, if I wanted to do that all day I'd just tape my mouse button down, point my vehicle at a building, and go to work, because winning games like that is incredibly boring and requires no skill. I don't need to play everyone to know this, because I've played with or against just about anyone who claims to have skill at some point in my tenure here. Some people have impressed me, and they know who they are, but I'd say in general most of the people who play this game lack discipline and thus we don't associate with them. I'm done with this thread, because you are going to sit here and run in circles with your mind until you read what you want to, and frankly the minute I spent typing this post up was a minute better spent elsewhere. If you have something legitimate you'd like to discuss then PM me, otherwise you should accept the fact that we don't like you and move on.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-05-30T23:21:30-00:00

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description: Quote: otherwise you should accept the fact that we don't like you and move on. I'm sure the majority of the community feels the same way towards you and the members of FUD.
creator: Aircraftkiller
date: 2004-05-30T23:29:13-00:00

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description: Deathgod I've seen how members of your clan play, and I already know I could easily win tons of clan matches just by pointwhoring. Not against anyone decent. You could get the best 6 FUD players and pit them against any 4 players from +FE+, DA-... or +CE+... and they'd get basekill on you in ten minutes Well, maybe ten minutes is an exaggeration but they'd still beat you without trying
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-30T23:56:56-00:00

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description: Quote: I've seen how members of your clan play, and I already know I could easily win tons of clan matches just by pointwhoring. HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO Thats the funnyist thing ive ever heard... FUD being able to stand up to CE in ren skill. Spoony where are you? Join ts.
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-05-31T02:23:53-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I'd offer a cw to test that theory, but it would be a waste of time typing the challenge, because FUD have never been able to back up a single word they say, have they? :rolleyes:
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-05-31T02:53:02-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: spoonyrat Deathgod I've seen how members of your clan play, and I already know I could easily win tons of clan matches just by pointwhoring. Not against anyone decent. You could get the best 6 FUD players and pit them against any 4 players from +FE+, DA-... or +CE+... and they'd get basekill on you in ten minutes Well, maybe ten minutes is an exaggeration but they'd still beat you without trying Why should we prove that we're better than you CW twats again? As I recall, we've banned a great deal of CW from our servers for genuinely sucking ass. And yes, that includes you, Icesword. I also have yet to see your copy of a character info, champ. Remember? Mobile Artillery being the best unit ever? You've already stated you can take on any GDI vehicle and win with it, so put your money where your mouth is and make an information chart. I mean, that WAS the point of this thread, right? To stop the flow of misinformation? So how about you stop changing the subject, friend.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-06-01T15:26:40-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: :bomb:
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-01T15:35:56-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Lol. Out of maybe 10 or 15 games I've played on the FUD servers, I have lost exactly one. And that was when Mahkra (or Zoogler or possibly someone else, but they seemed to be the only Fudders in-game) kicked two rushing Nod players so they could steal their flametanks. (Map was Complex) The other name I played on was DrHavocJR. In fact Mahkra himself complimented me on some fine destruction on CityFly (Obviously oblivious to who I was) Not a great basis to say FUD is better than me.
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-01T18:16:19-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Stop beating around the bush, n00b. You want to stop the flow of misinformation, write your guide. I would be interested in reading how your mobile artillery should be used to take out all GDI ground units, like you yourself have implied.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-06-01T18:34:03-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Javaxcx Why should we prove that we're better than you CW twats again? As I recall, we've banned a great deal of CW from our servers for genuinely sucking ass. I was replying to this. Regarding artillery, I'll make some fraps videos if I can be bothered. Tankskill can't really be explained in words
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-01T18:41:58-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Quote: From the FUD RULES: ...you may be banned without warning at any time so that a member of FUD can get on the server. Yes, they take priority over you. If this happens, nothing personal, and the ban list is cleared frequently so you'll be able to get back on in a day or so. FUD has never impressed me. I was banned moments after I joined so one of their cronies could get in. Instead of an apology I got attitude. :rolleyes: Javaxcx has always been so cool, it's hard to believe he even associates with those n00bs. I thought FUD went under, and no one was upset, why bring them back?
creator: Gizbotvas
date: 2004-06-01T18:45:15-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: What, are you stupid? You said you were tired of people passing off misinformation as fact. Now you're too arsed to do anything about it? But you're still going to whine? We have a name for kids like you in FUD: Banned. Stop whining.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-06-01T18:48:50-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Javaxcx spoonyrat Deathgod I've seen how members of your clan play, and I already know I could easily win tons of clan matches just by pointwhoring. Not against anyone decent. You could get the best 6 FUD players and pit them against any 4 players from +FE+, DA-... or +CE+... and they'd get basekill on you in ten minutes Well, maybe ten minutes is an exaggeration but they'd still beat you without trying Why should we prove that we're better than you CW twats again? As I recall, we've banned a great deal of CW from our servers for genuinely sucking ass. And yes, that includes you, Icesword. I also have yet to see your copy of a character info, champ. Remember? Mobile Artillery being the best unit ever? You've already stated you can take on any GDI vehicle and win with it, so put your money where your mouth is and make an information chart. I mean, that WAS the point of this thread, right? To stop the flow of misinformation? So how about you stop changing the subject, friend. I can only recall playing on the fud server once. Im pretty sure it was on my Mutant205 name prly about 18 months ago. I have never even considered joining that piece of crap server sense then. From what i hear only n00bs play that server therefor there is no decent compitition. If i remember correctly the one time i did join the server it laged like a bitch. I dunno maybe it was just me. And dont even try to BS, you ban CW people for owning you just like you ban everyone eles for owning you
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-06-01T19:11:10-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Actually, I remember you banning ME for owning YOU under your Mutant205 name when you hosted a sniper server. Furthermore, we have never banned a CW player for "owning" us. If you and your clan want to act like idiots in our server, like you do everywhere else, you will be banned regardless of what reasons you THINK we removed you for.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-06-01T19:16:46-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I've made some fraps videos to illustrate what an arty can do Compressing the videos now, will post them shortly
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-01T19:30:17-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=10825
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-01T19:52:26-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Javaxcx What, are you stupid? You said you were tired of people passing off misinformation as fact. Now you're too arsed to do anything about it? But you're still going to whine? We have a name for kids like you in FUD: Banned. Stop whining. You arent talking to me are you? :eh:
creator: Gizbotvas
date: 2004-06-01T21:50:46-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I believe he was speaking to spoony.
creator: U927
date: 2004-06-01T23:40:22-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I was talking to Spoony.
creator: Javaxcx
date: 2004-06-02T00:40:50-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Gizbotvas Quote: From the FUD RULES: ...you may be banned without warning at any time so that a member of FUD can get on the server. Yes, they take priority over you. If this happens, nothing personal, and the ban list is cleared frequently so you'll be able to get back on in a day or so. FUD has never impressed me. I was banned moments after I joined so one of their cronies could get in. Instead of an apology I got attitude. :rolleyes: Javaxcx has always been so cool, it's hard to believe he even associates with those n00bs. I thought FUD went under, and no one was upset, why bring them back? You will never get an apology for something we did according to our rules. In fact, you'd never get an apology anyhow because you whine incessantly. As the rule says, if you get banned so we can get on, tough shit. Come back in a few days. FUD never went under; FUD is a way of life. Philosophies cannot disappear, only be forgotten.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-06-02T04:37:52-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Deathgod .. if you get banned so we can get on, tough shit. Come back in a few days. ..Philosophies cannot disappear, only be forgotten. I had totally forgotten about FUD until I saw this thread. The sooner I forget again the better.
creator: Gizbotvas
date: 2004-06-03T22:40:12-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I think that was supposed to be an insult, but coming from someone like yourself I can't say I am offended but rather pleased.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-06-04T03:18:02-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: This is why I thought you worthless FUD n00bs were long gone. This is from awhile ago- http://www.n00bstories.com/n00bfile_view.php?id=3880&search=giz The "goodbye" post by you and several other FUDtards includes such wonderfully insightful gems as: Quote: I'd say about a good 90% of you I've haven't had the bad fortune of coming across. But I dislike you all nonetheless. and (this one is from YOU, Deathgod) Quote: I truly feel that people who are devoting a generous portion of their time to keeping this game alive are wasting their time... and Quote: I'm sitting here trying to think of something to say to all of you that sums up the way I feel about you, and I can come up with nothing more appropriate than this: Fuck yoU, Die. FUDn00bs are actually hilarious if you can just away from their server. I think we will install FUDGuard at Fastc0nn, Pits, and n00bservers just to make sure you twits don't join and lower the level of gameplay... ha.
creator: Gizbotvas
date: 2004-06-05T14:18:45-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: For the record: Gizbotvas does not speak for the entire n00bstories community. I've had lots of fun in the FUD servers, although I have received the BanHammer on various occasions from taskbot and Priest. The servers are there for the intent of having fun, mostly at other people's expense (sp?), which is why FUD is so hated. We aren't ones to tell someone how to run a server. Take WhitexOps' server, for example. Next to taskbot, he's possibly the most reported person on n00bstories, yet people STILL play on it. The FUD servers are here to stay. As Priest said, whining isn't going to stop them from having fun.
creator: U927
date: 2004-06-05T17:27:02-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I don't think I ever banned you, Umbral. I actually don't mind you, you understand where we're coming from. Giz, I don't bother going to those servers anyhow because when I do it's not much of a challenge for me. I usually only play nowadays when some of my other clan members are on so there's a bit of work required for me to succeed. All the statements you quoted are still true as far as I can tell, so I don't really see why you brought them up.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-06-05T18:19:15-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: You FUD people are a bit like the neo-Nazis. These days they're all dressed up in suits and eloquent speeches, but if you scratch the surface they're still the same hateful bullies.
creator: m1a1_abrams
date: 2004-06-05T19:49:44-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Deathgod Giz, I don't bother going to those servers anyhow because when I do it's not much of a challenge for me. I usually only play nowadays when some of my other clan members are on so there's a bit of work required for me to succeed. lmao. Pits often provides a challenging game. I have NEVER lost a game on the FUD server. (Except that time I've already mentioned, when -presumably- mahkra kicked two rushing Nod players so he and Zoogler could jack their flamers)
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-05T20:30:22-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Perhaps I should rephrase that. When I say "I have never lost a game on the FUD server" I should probably replace that with "I have never come anywhere CLOSE to losing a game on the FUD server"
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-05T22:34:46-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: m1a1_abrams You FUD people are a bit like the neo-Nazis. These days they're all dressed up in suits and eloquent speeches, but if you scratch the surface they're still the same hateful bullies. We're neither hateful or bullies. Bullies seek people out and make their lives miserable. All we do is remove unwanted elements from our server. We're also not hateful, we're just realists. Spoony, saying you've never lost a game on a public server is a lot like saying in a contest full of retards, you came out on top. That still makes you king of the retards. I can honestly say that probably the only person in our clan who's played a "game" with you was mahkra, and he was waiting for more people to join so I can't say I am surprised at his lack of concern for the game. Keep flattering yourself, champ.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-06-06T07:21:55-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: spoonyrat Lol. Out of maybe 10 or 15 games I've played on the FUD servers, I have lost exactly one. And that was when Mahkra (or Zoogler or possibly someone else, but they seemed to be the only Fudders in-game) kicked two rushing Nod players so they could steal their flametanks. (Map was Complex) The other name I played on was DrHavocJR. In fact Mahkra himself complimented me on some fine destruction on CityFly (Obviously oblivious to who I was) Not a great basis to say FUD is better than me. Conveniently ignoring THIS post, aren't we Deathgod?
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-06T09:18:38-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: No, as I said winning a game on a public server doesn't mean shit. Whether you happened to be doing it on a server where people in my clan were or not is irrelevant. I also highly doubt that anyone in my clan would kick someone to steal their vehicle; we're pretty adamant about not doing shit like that.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-06-07T05:37:16-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Can i just sum up FUD? No one likes you guys at all. You guys all suck at ren And you have never done anything for the ren community besides keep your crappy server up. Why are you still here?
creator: IceSword7
date: 2004-06-07T05:49:26-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Okay, I know I said I was done posting in this thread, but I'm getting sick of spoony's blatant lie being passed off as the truth: spoonyrat I have NEVER lost a game on the FUD server. (Except that time I've already mentioned, when -presumably- mahkra kicked two rushing Nod players so he and Zoogler could jack their flamers) I have NEVER banned people to steal their tanks (except teammates, of course, but the tanks were actually mine in the first place, which is why the people got banned), so I don't know what the hell you're talking about here. Side note: m1a1_abrams they're still the same hateful bullies Actually, the bullies of Renegade are those uberfags who just go around crashing people's servers and making them disconnect from WOL. Okay, back to spoony: spoonyrat When I say "I have never lost a game on the FUD server" I should probably replace that with "I have never come anywhere CLOSE to losing a game on the FUD server" I think it's funny that you point out things like this but don't tell the whole story. For example, in that one game you mentioned (the one on city_flying, when you were apparently using a different name), I WAS ON YOUR TEAM. And I destroyed even more of the Nod base that game than you did.... I don't really understand how you winning a game WHEN I'M ON YOUR TEAM means you're better than me. Especially considering the facts that (1)your orca never would have survived in the Nod base if I hadn't been repairing it for you, and (2)I did better that game than you did. and, finally, icesword: IceSword7 No one likes you guys at all. This is simply not true. But even if it were, we wouldn't really care. I mean, honestly, do any of us give a damn what random people on the internet think of us? I sure hope not... IceSword7 You guys suck at ren Actually, in that city_flying game spoony mentioned where he was playing as DrHavocJr, he complimented me as well. And I get invites to join clans all the time.... You can think whatever you want, but in all ho…
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-06-07T15:45:29-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I like pizza.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T15:49:09-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Welcome to the club.
creator: IRON FART
date: 2004-06-07T16:11:20-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: KIRBY098 I like pizza. Did you hear about Italy wanting to pass a law with all sorts of requirements about how a pizza has to be made for it to be called "neapolitan?" Made me LMAO....
creator: mahkra
date: 2004-06-07T16:17:35-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I hate to say it, but Europeans in general are far too uptight about "culture". The French have a government agency dedicated to maintaining the "integrity" of the French language so words like "Big Mac" don't come into common usage in French dialogue.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T16:42:54-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Yea, well lots of Italians are angry at Pizza Hut, Dominos, etc. Because they say that they got fantastic Pizza and all, but Italians don't even classify that as real Pizza. Neither do I actually, but it tastes good and I'll eat it lol
creator: IRON FART
date: 2004-06-07T16:44:02-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Italian Pizza is based more on the concept of cafe style dining, and taking forever to eat. You will NEVER see it in a box, and it sure as hell will NOT be delivered to your house. It's good if you aren't in a rush, and have a waiter bringing you "beverages" every five minutes.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T16:47:15-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: KIRBY098 I like pizza. *Umbral applauds Kirby for turning ths thread in a totally different direction (that's a good thing, by the way).
creator: U927
date: 2004-06-07T17:22:27-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: KIRBY098 I hate to say it, but Europeans in general are far too uptight about "culture". The French have a government agency dedicated to maintaining the "integrity" of the French language so words like "Big Mac" don't come into common usage in French dialogue. I wholeheartedly agree with the French on that one... I think they have a great language, and if we took as much pride in our culture as they did I think America would be a much nicer place as a whole.
creator: Deathgod
date: 2004-06-07T17:36:57-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Deathgod KIRBY098 I hate to say it, but Europeans in general are far too uptight about "culture". The French have a government agency dedicated to maintaining the "integrity" of the French language so words like "Big Mac" don't come into common usage in French dialogue. I wholeheartedly agree with the French on that one... I think they have a great language, and if we took as much pride in our culture as they did I think America would be a much nicer place as a whole. While I see your point, Elitism tends a society towards the type of stagnant inbreeding that causes mediocrity, not greatness.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T17:44:13-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Umbral_DelaFlare KIRBY098 I like pizza. *Umbral applauds Kirby for turning ths thread in a totally different direction (that's a good thing, by the way). Shutup, and play along lol
creator: IRON FART
date: 2004-06-07T17:46:24-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: mahkra I have NEVER banned people to steal their tanks (except teammates, of course, but the tanks were actually mine in the first place, which is why the people got banned), so I don't know what the hell you're talking about here. I'm sure there was a perfectly valid reason you banned two enemy players. And I'm sure it was a complete coincidence that they both happened to be in your base with flame tanks. And I'm sure the fact that yourself and ZoogLer rushed the Nod base immediately after was equally coincidental :rolleyes: You're either lying or your memory fails you
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-07T17:56:58-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: spoonyrat mahkra I have NEVER banned people to steal their tanks (except teammates, of course, but the tanks were actually mine in the first place, which is why the people got banned), so I don't know what the hell you're talking about here. I'm sure there was a perfectly valid reason you banned two enemy players. And I'm sure it was a complete coincidence that they both happened to be in your base with flame tanks. And I'm sure the fact that yourself and ZoogLer rushed the Nod base immediately after was equally coincidental :rolleyes: You're either lying or your memory fails you Get over it. I, and a millions others had to. http://n00bstories.com/n00bfile_search.php?search=taskbot7 It didn't affect our life too much.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T17:59:41-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: FUD being reported over and over again on n00bstories doesn't mean much. Hell, I've got nearly as many n00bstories about me as Taskbot has about him. And the only ones that are actually true are the ones I wrote myself On their "goodbye" speech, one FUD member (I forget who) said it didn't matter that they were despised because they were despised by idiots (The community). In a similar vein, when players like IceSword7 or myself are said to "suck" by players as unskilled as FUD, it actually makes us realise we aren't that bad after all.
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-07T18:47:59-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: I sincerely doubt you are anything more than an average player pal. You need to stop blowing your own horn.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T18:55:12-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: And you need to stop thinking that's what I'm doing, because I'm not... EDIT: on reflection, why deny? Yes, I do think I'm good. I'm willing to prove it to anyone who doubts?
creator: spoonyrat
date: 2004-06-07T18:59:58-00:00

For the attention of Clan FUD
type: item
description: Whatever floats your boat, but I grow weary of listening to your self righteous pomp.
creator: KIRBY098
date: 2004-06-07T19:10:54-00:00