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Democratic candidate: John Kerry Republican incumbent: George W. Bush Green Party candidate: Ralph Nader Post who you would vote for! U.S. citizens only, please! My vote: George W. Bush
Interesting...A random poll on a conservatively-slanted message board. Oh what the hell...John Kerry.
Re: Let's hold our own unofficial election!
hydra1945 My vote: George W. Bush
You know
You forgot the Libertarian and Constitutional canidates.
MrBob You forgot the Libertarian and Constitutional canidates. Meh, didn't know them off the top of my head. Go ahead and list them if you wanna .
lalala....I can't hear everyone saying Bush....lalalala.....because Bush's approval rating is the lowest it's ever been...lalalalala....
Um, anyone but Bush... Since my only other option in this thread is Kerry, I would say Kerry. For the record, I would vote for my cat before I vote for GW Bush. My cat would do far less damage to the country.
Hmmm, one of the choices should be Robert Dundon.
Gizbotvas Um, anyone but Bush... Since my only other option in this thread is Kerry, I would say Kerry. For the record, I would vote for my cat before I vote for GW Bush. My cat would do far less damage to the country. first freakin' post... Democratic candidate: John Kerry Green Party candidate: Ralph Nader Ralph Nader was another option + whoever the Libertarian and Constitutional candidatees may be. Kerry was NOT your only option :rolleyes:. Oh, and that "I'll vote for this guy because I don't like that guy" philosophy may be the worst ever. That's like saying you don't like Idi Amin so you're going to vote for Josef Stalin. :rolleyes: P.S. MrBob, I'll add in the Libertarian and Constitutional candidates if you tell me who they are (too lazy to look them up myself ).
A vote for Bush is a vote for terrorism! I do believe the Republican party has someone WAY better than Bush to offer (come on, even the hardcore Republicans have to admit he has made SOME mistakes), but my loyalties are firm. Republican all the way!
You can vote for your cat if you want too, after all, in the offical election there is a blank line for you to right a name down a vote for, so just jote your cats name down on that blank and selecte the vote on that, since your not going to vote bush and you appear to think Kerry isn't the wiser of the 2 either. I would be funny as h3ll if a cat did get voted to office by some random and completely unorthidox event. It will never happen, but at least it could make a funny Comidy Central gag. And the winner of the pers. election, Gizbotvas Cat! *the crowd cheers* *Bush and Kerry look at each other in dismay and say "WHAT IN THE H3LL?!"*
Umbral_DelaFlare A vote for Bush is a vote for terrorism! I do believe the Republican party has someone WAY better than Bush to offer (come on, even the hardcore Republicans have to admit he has made SOME mistakes), but my loyalties are firm. Hmm, like who? About the only thing George W. Bush has done that I disapprove of is the humungous budget he submitted to Congress which then overspends on everything in the already too large budget. That medicare bill he signed into law was the worst action he has done during his presidency as there should be no welfare, medicare or social security government-funded programs at all. But that's about it. His economic policies have brought us out of the Clinton recession and the War on Terrorism is going better than expected. His massive spending habits are about the only bad things that I see in him.
Quote: His massive spending habits are about the only bad things that I see in him. Oh, so this is why the Liberals and Democrates are so upset then. I always thought they focused to much on money. Granted I have to agree that Bush needs to spend money much wiser, but the bases of the Liberals and Democrates lack of support seems to souly be based on money. Did you know that a lot of times when money is wasted, it is due more to a lack of co-operation and a profesionsy of backstabing and mistrust, as well as desires to element political compitistion? Really, people are just throughing money away just to cause sinsless betrayal and finger pointing, whining about other people and their faults, rather then supporting them and taking reasponsability for their own actions.
JadenStriker Quote: His massive spending habits are about the only bad things that I see in him. Oh, so this is why the Liberals and Democrates are so upset then. Actually, the Democrats want to spend even more money on failed social programs like welfare. The Democrats are upset at Bush for doing so well as a president and are looking for anything they might be able to make an issue out of. Before it was the War on Terrorism, but with the success Bush has had with it, it is no longer an issue. Now it's the economy and jobs, but both are improving drastically, but the Democrats will do their best to degrade the success of the economy just so they would have an issue to use against George Bush.
If both of the moron politicians would spend less money on ads bashing the other and more on building up credentials for themselves... Kerry changes his mind too damn often to be a reliable choice. Bush may not be the best president ever, but at least you know where you stand with him. And given the rather hectic nature of world events during his presidency, I think he's doing better than could be expected. Note that I think most politicians on the political scene now are piles of shit who are interested more in themselves than in the country...the people who need to be in office are the people who don't want to be there.[/disclaimer]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119636,00.html http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13190
Crimson http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119636,00.html "Senate Rejects Extension on Unemployment Benefits" Thank god! Now some lazy fatasses will have to get to work! Quote: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13190 Lol!!
Yeah, but this happens while Kerry has an ad where he cast the "deciding vote" that created 20 million jobs (even though it was BOB Kerrey, not him... then misses something where his vote actually would have helped.
hydra1945 Democratic candidate: John Kerry Republican incumbent: George W. Bush Green Party candidate: Ralph Nader 1. I would vote for Ralph Nader. 2. Ralph Nader is not running as a Green Party candidate.
hydra1945 Oh, and that "I'll vote for this guy because I don't like that guy" philosophy may be the worst ever. That's like saying you don't like Idi Amin so you're going to vote for Josef Stalin. Well, yeah, unless you give thought to the person you would choose over someone else. [In this case Bush]. Sorry, I can't give any in-depth research as to why, big project to work on for the next month or so, after that I can start talkin again. Crimson: That second link you showed in your one post where the guy says how Kerry bombed all of his interviews doesn't make all that much sense. Did you actually see his interviews?
I'm not concerned with the entire article, just the part where he admits we may still find WMD.
setstyle 2. Ralph Nader is not running as a Green Party candidate. I forget, is he running as an independant this year?
hydra1945 setstyle 2. Ralph Nader is not running as a Green Party candidate. I forget, is he running as an independant this year? Yeah he is, but he seems to be doing quite well so far.
hydra, ggetting back to what you were saying about voting for the wrong person because of silly reasons, here's something you should look at: Crimson: Well, of course we may find WMDs. We may find anything. I may find WMDs in my fridge when I go up to grab a snack. Highly unlikely, but still technically possible. Besides, the Bush administration could always plant WMDs.
You know damn well that Kerry wouldn't have said "we may yet find [WMD]" if the possibility were as unlikely as you finding them in your fridge. "Kerry knows what everyone with a memory knows: which is that Saddam had WMD and the world agreed he had them. Perhaps they were destroyed, perhaps hidden, perhaps trucked to Syria, but he had them. Thank you, Mr. Kerry, for your only contribution to the public's understanding of the war to date."
Crimson, even if there is a possibility, it would look bad to Kerry if he said we won't find WMDs in Iraq and then we found even a zip-loc bag of anything that could possibly be considered a WMD, regardless of whether or not it comes out that the WMD bag was a plant. Also, did that quote come straight from Lim-Butthead? Do you read the paper on Saturday by any chance, Crimson?
Dukakis... er... I mean BUSH!
I would vote for Slash off of Guns N' Roses, but he isn't one of the choices So I vote Bush.
If I were an American.... BUSH I just can't stand the democrats and their policies.
BUSH The speech from last night was a rock throws away from my house My freinds mom got to introduce or meet him what ever ya wana call it when he got off the plane
SuperFlyingEngi Like which policies? Making Americans dependent on the central Government for handouts while jacking our taxes to pay for it, WELFARE, and inserting cigars into interns while disgracing the oval office in the process then lying to entire world about it on camera.
Damn, why the hell does everyone insist that Clinton's personal life is so closely related to how he operates the country? What the hell was he suposed to say when Congress asked him whether he was havin an affair or not? That's such a bastard question. Plus, it's not a policy. Read this site about how conservatives try to disort the media: http://mediamatters.org/
SuperFlyingEngi Damn, why the hell does everyone insist that Clinton's personal life is so closely related to how he operates the country? What the hell was he suposed to say when Congress asked him whether he was havin an affair or not? That's such a bastard question. Plus, it's not a policy. Read this site about how conservatives try to disort the media: http://mediamatters.org/ The way some ones manages their life certainly shows how they will manage a country.
SuperFlyingEngi What the hell was he suposed to say when Congress asked him whether he was havin an affair or not? When you're under oath, he is supposed to say the truth. He was accused of sexually harassing Paula Jones, and Monica Lewinsky signed an affidavit for Paula Jones's lawyer that says she did not have an affair with Bill Clinton. You can't lie on an affidavit. Get it through your head that he was not impeached for getting his dick sucked but for lying under oath. That's called perjury, which is categorized as a F-E-L-O-N-Y. Do you know what else is categorized as a F-E-L-O-N-Y for which Bill Clinton was under investigation? Obstruction of justice. Bill Clinton was impeached for committing TWO FUCKING F-E-L-O-N-I-E-S. Quote: That's such a bastard question. Plus, it's not a policy. No, it's a legitimate question when it's written on a fucking affidavit that he didn't have an affair with her. Quote: Read this site about how conservatives try to disort the media: http://mediamatters.org/ :rolleyes: Does this even warrant a response?
Oh, please. Even before Clinton lied under oath people screamed that he should be impeached. That he lied under oath was just the excuse they needed, and it wasn't very smart of Clinton. Also, I find it funny how at least 60% of the threads about elections/Bush/Iraq/general politics transform into an "argument" about Clinton
Kerry. Bush has the equivilant intelligence of tomato. Argue it if you want, but before you do, please point out a different president who has multiple books devoted to his misquotes. "They misunderestimated me!"
SEAL Kerry. Bush has the equivilant intelligence of tomato. Argue it if you want, but before you do, please point out a different president who has multiple books devoted to his misquotes. "They misunderestimated me!" Quote: You are reading me signature. nuff said.
Lol @ above. So what if there's a book about George W. Bush's misquotes? What does that say about his intelligence? Absolutely nothing. All it says is that George W. Bush is not a good orator. Besides, why would you care about how many misquotes a person has made before? Shouldn't the candidate's stance on the issues be more important? Apparently it isn't to you since you support a man who has changed positions on each issue he touches more than a two dollar crack whore changes sex partners.
Aright, I'll get back to the other stuff in a week or so after school gets out and I have time to do things, but first, hydra: It's not just that some people think it's silly to write books full of President Bush mispronouncing things. The case may be that he is dyslexic. During the 9/11 attack, when Bush was at the school reading books to children, and was informed that the towers were being hit by planes, he just sits there reading the book for another 7 minutes. Behavioral psychologists look at this [which is on tape and will be in Fahrenheit 9/11, I believe] and say, "Oh my god, this is what we teach dyslexic children to do when they are reading." Another instance is when he was asked by some reporters what his first book was, and he said some random kid title like "Run dog run" or something, and ok. But as we look back, "Run dog run" [or whatever the hell it was called] was first published when he was 19. And on flip-flopping issues: Like what? Please name some so I can get back to those.
Thanks for the heads up on the typo. Please tell me you did not just justify Bush's idiocy by comparing a typo of mine to a completely made up word by arguably (and sadly) the most important man in the world. One would hope that someone of such high importance would have more intelligence anyway... So I'm sorry, sir, but your response is not "nuff said". My signature typo was a mechanical error, not a logical error. The latter is much more important concerning one's overall intelligence. hydra1945 Apparently it isn't to you since you support a man who has changed positions on each issue he touches more than a two dollar crack whore changes sex partners. I should have been more specific before: I don't necessarily support Kerry. I wouldn't vote for Kerry because I like him or his stance on the issues...I would vote for him because he is not Bush. Here's a website that demonstrates my feelings about the whole thing very well: http://www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com/
Ooh I can post a link too: http://www.kerrycore.com/
good...for...you? Congrats. But anyway, kerrycore, from the looks of it, seems to resort to childish namecalling etc.
/me wonders why there is so much Bush support on virtually every Renegade/Renegade mod forum
Hmm yes the amount of support for Bush is huge :/ Im quite surprised too..
The United States has shifted so far to the right in it's national discourse that even moderate Democrats are brandished as left-wing-radicals. There is no more intelligent debate in this country. Either you're with GW Bush, or you're against him. And if you're against him, you're an unpatriotic terrorist-sympathizer. :rolleyes: I don't like Kerry much, but just about ANYTHING is better than GW. Holy Shit, can an American President do MORE damage to enviromental law? Social welfare? International relations? Corporate accountability? the National Deficit? etc, etc, etc. Gizbotvas's Cat for President! Cause anything is better than what we've got now.
Gizbotvas Cause anything is better than what we've got now. If Josef Stalin was running for president, would you campaign for him since he "isn't Bush?" :rolleyes:
PointlessAmbler /me wonders why there is so much Bush support on virtually every Renegade/Renegade mod forum I'm surprised too. Most other forums (all non-political, just games forums and such) I visit are left-winged.
hydra1945 Gizbotvas Cause anything is better than what we've got now. If Josef Stalin was running for president, would you campaign for him since he "isn't Bush?" :rolleyes: Considering that Stalin is: a) Dead b) Not eligable to become President of the USA Seems a rather stupid question, doesn't it?
No fucking duh he's dead. It was a hypothetical question. Sad thing is, if he WAS alive and WAS eligible to run for president, you'd probably vote for him since he "isn't Bush."
...but he isn't... so this isn't likely to become a real situation.
DaveGMM ...but he isn't... so this isn't likely to become a real situation. That is where the word hypothetical comes in. And I visit two other forums. http://forum.americasarmy.com In the R&R section. There are more conservative/republicans than liberal democrats. But on http://www.zgeek.com That place is overwhelmingly extremist liberal. I could use some help. It seems every other thread is about how stupid I am. then their victory is 20 people calling me an idiot. I have only screwed up twice on there. I thought someone in montey python was Canadian. And I said Don King instead of Rodney King.
If you listen to some people around here, all liberals are extremists :rolleyes: I'm glad I don't live in the US.
It's a typical human response to react to the negative more than the positive. People define themselves by their misery. People LOVE to compare who has it worse than the other guy. I bet 75-80% of you right now would say "Oh, my childhood was rough!" Everyone is doing better than they were 4 years ago, but they're worried that their neighbor isn't. Then you have the left-wing media doing all they can to make us think we're in this horrible miserable time. It's more fun to hate... especially when there's the trend to be "different". Who wants to feel like a conformist and agree with whoever is in office?
Crimson especially when there's the trend to be "different". Who wants to feel like a conformist and agree with whoever is in office? I hate people that try to be different. They are the most stupid people in the world.
Yeah, like the trend to be "crazy"... "Normal people scare me." "I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it"... you know the trend. Agreeing with someone in authority/power...
DaveGMM If you listen to some people around here, all liberals are extremists :rolleyes: I'm glad I don't live in the US. We are too.
KIRBY098 DaveGMM If you listen to some people around here, all liberals are extremists :rolleyes: I'm glad I don't live in the US. We are too. Well than we are all happy. Now stay out of American politics.
"If Josef Stalin was running for president, would you vote for him since he 'isn't Bush?'" "Josef Stalin is dead." "I know he's dead, numbnuts. Let's say he was alive and eligible to run for president against Bush. Would you vote for him?" "But he isn't alive, so this isn't a likely situation." Dave, it was a fucking hypothetical question. Don't reply to it if your reply isn't intelligent. Great attempt at derailing the topic! Nodbugger KIRBY098 DaveGMM If you listen to some people around here, all liberals are extremists I'm glad I don't live in the US. We are too. Well than we are all happy. Now stay out of American politics. Were you replying to KIRBY or Dave, Nodbugger?
Yeah, except your question is just a huge exageration that doesn't mean anything. Because John Kerry is no Josef Stalin. Crimson Then you have the left-wing media If it were true, that would be a good one! There is no overwhelming left-wing media. If anything, FOX is right-wing slanted by a huge margin. There's a reason they are cable news and not FCC-approved. Because they lie and distort so much it's just an entertainment channel and the FCC would wipe them right off the air. Nodbugger It seems every other thread is about how stupid I am. then their victory is 20 people calling me an idiot. Sounds like you declaring llamaman451 to be an idiot and claiming a victory. Hypocrite.
SuperFlyingEngi Nodbugger It seems every other thread is about how stupid I am. then their victory is 20 people calling me an idiot. Sounds like you declaring llamaman451 to be an idiot and claiming a victory. Hypocrite. What the fuck are you talking about, and who is llamaman451?
Remember, that guy back in the Political IQ Test thread who everyone jumped on him because he had the same IP as his "intern" or whatever. And yes, you were there too.
Possibly the greatest and longest argument in these forums.
...and to think it all started with me scribbling something to my 10-year-old sister on a dry-erase board...
Bush all the way. If any other president was elected, Iraq along with every city in the US would be a smoking crater within the hour because of their stupid policies.
Aren't you the guy with the retarded opinions about the damage snipers inflict on vehicles?